1.   Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (1-0)
2.   Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco
3.   Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy
4.   Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas
5.   Buford (GA)
6.   Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy
7.   Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) Santa Margarita
8.   Duncanville (TX)
9.   Corona (CA) Centennial
10.   Chattanooga (TN) Baylor
11.   Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei
12.   Loganville (GA) Grayson
13.   Chandler (AZ) Basha
14.   Allen (TX)
15.   Carrollton (GA)
16.   Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon
17.   Brentwood (TN) Academy
18.   Fairburn (GA) Creekside
19.   Miami (FL) Carol City
20.   Alabaster (AL) Thompson
21.   DeSoto (TX)
22.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha
23.   Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna
24.   Ramsey (NJ) Don Bosco Prep
25.   Chandler (AZ) Hamilton
26.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage
27.   Brownsburg (IN)
28.   Cornelius (NC) Hough
29.   Houston (TX) North Shore
30.   Montvale (NJ) St. Joseph Regional
31.   Chandler (AZ)
32.   Southlake (TX) Carroll
33.   Thomasville (GA) Thomas County Central
34.   Miami (FL) Central
35.   Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff
36.   Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel
37.   Wyndmoor (PA) La Salle College
38.   Novi (MI) Central Catholic
39.   Franklin (TN) Battle Ground Academy
40.   East St. Louis (IL)
41.   Gainesville (GA)
42.   Draper (UT) Corner Canyon (1-0)
43.   West Boca Raton (FL)
44.   Massillon (OH) Washington
45.   Folsom (CA)
46.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic
47.   Milton (GA)
48.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville
49.   New Orleans (LA) Edna Karr
50.   Bixby (OK)
51.   Waxahachie (TX)
52.   Concord (CA) De La Salle
53.   Powder Springs (GA) McEachern
54.   Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep
55.   Fort Worth (TX) North Crowley
56.   Mission Viejo (CA)
57.   Cincinnati (OH) Anderson
58.   Aledo (TX)
59.   Murfreesboro (TN) Oakland
60.   Houston (TX) King
61.   Douglasville (GA) Douglas County
62.   Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek
63.   Louisville (KY) Trinity
64.   Greensboro (NC) Grimsley
65.   Phenix City (AL) Central
66.   Houston (TX) Summer Creek
67.   Orange (CA) Lutheran
68.   Chattanooga (TN) McCallie
69.   Denton (TX) Guyer
70.   Detroit (MI) Cass Tech
71.   Omaha (NE) Millard South
72.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward
73.   Irmo (SC) Dutch Fork
74.   Anaheim (CA) Servite
75.   Sarasota (FL) Cardinal Mooney
76.   Charlotte (NC) Providence Day
77.   Cincinnati (OH) Elder
78.   Suwannee (GA) North Gwinnett
79.   Spring Branch (TX) Smithson Valley
80.   Bryant (AR)
81.   San Diego (CA) Cathedral Catholic
82.   Lewis Center (OH)  Olentangy Orange
83.   Peoria (AZ) Liberty
84.   Jersey City (NJ) St. Peters Prep
85.   Leesburg (GA) Lee County
86.   Lakeland (FL)
87.   Rock Hill (SC) Northwestern
88.   Chicago (IL) Brother Rice
89.   Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding
90.   Columbus (OH) Bishop Waterson
91.   Richmond (TX) Randle
92.   Valdosta (GA)
93.   River Ridge (LA) John Curtis
94.   Puyallup (WA)
95.   Saraland (AL)
96.   Coppell (TX)
97.   Cincinnati (OH) Princeton
98.   Lake Mary (FL)
99.   Fairbanks (GA) Langston Hughes
100.   Olney (MD) Our Lady  of Good Counsel

Nice initial poll.  The season is about to start for everyone!!

1.   Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (1-0)
2.   Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco
3.   Baltimore (MD) St. Francis Academy
4.   Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas
5.   Buford (GA)
6.   Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy
7.   Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) Santa Margarita
8.   Duncanville (TX)
9.   Corona (CA) Centennial
10.   Chattanooga (TN) Baylor
11.   Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei
12.   Loganville (GA) Grayson
13.   Chandler (AZ) Basha
14.   Allen (TX)
15.   Carrollton (GA)
16.   Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon
17.   Brentwood (TN) Academy
18.   Fairburn (GA) Creekside
19.   Miami (FL) Carol City
20.   Alabaster (AL) Thompson
21.   DeSoto (TX)
22.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha
23.   Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna
24.   Ramsey (NJ) Don Bosco Prep
25.   Chandler (AZ) Hamilton
26.   Plantation (FL) American Heritage
27.   Brownsburg (IN)
28.   Cornelius (NC) Hough
29.   Houston (TX) North Shore
30.   Montvale (NJ) St. Joseph Regional
31.   Chandler (AZ)
32.   Southlake (TX) Carroll
33.   Thomasville (GA) Thomas County Central
34.   Miami (FL) Central
35.   Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff
36.   Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel
37.   Wyndmoor (PA) La Salle College
38.   Novi (MI) Central Catholic
39.   Franklin (TN) Battle Ground Academy
40.   East St. Louis (IL)
41.   Gainesville (GA)
42.   Draper (UT) Corner Canyon (1-0)
43.   West Boca Raton (FL)
44.   Massillon (OH) Washington
45.   Folsom (CA)
46.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic
47.   Milton (GA)
48.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville
49.   New Orleans (LA) Edna Karr
50.   Bixby (OK)
51.   Waxahachie (TX)
52.   Concord (CA) De La Salle
53.   Powder Springs (GA) McEachern
54.   Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep
55.   Fort Worth (TX) North Crowley
56.   Mission Viejo (CA)
57.   Cincinnati (OH) Anderson
58.   Aledo (TX)
59.   Murfreesboro (TN) Oakland
60.   Houston (TX) King
61.   Douglasville (GA) Douglas County
62.   Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek
63.   Louisville (KY) Trinity
64.   Greensboro (NC) Grimsley
65.   Phenix City (AL) Central
66.   Houston (TX) Summer Creek
67.   Orange (CA) Lutheran
68.   Chattanooga (TN) McCallie
69.   Denton (TX) Guyer
70.   Detroit (MI) Cass Tech
71.   Omaha (NE) Millard South
72.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward
73.   Irmo (SC) Dutch Fork
74.   Anaheim (CA) Servite
75.   Sarasota (FL) Cardinal Mooney
76.   Charlotte (NC) Providence Day
77.   Cincinnati (OH) Elder
78.   Suwannee (GA) North Gwinnett
79.   Spring Branch (TX) Smithson Valley
80.   Bryant (AR)
81.   San Diego (CA) Cathedral Catholic
82.   Lewis Center (OH)  Olentangy Orange
83.   Peoria (AZ) Liberty
84.   Jersey City (NJ) St. Peters Prep
85.   Leesburg (GA) Lee County
86.   Lakeland (FL)
87.   Rock Hill (SC) Northwestern
88.   Chicago (IL) Brother Rice
89.   Severn (MD) Archbishop Spalding
90.   Columbus (OH) Bishop Waterson
91.   Richmond (TX) Randle
92.   Valdosta (GA)
93.   River Ridge (LA) John Curtis
94.   Puyallup (WA)
95.   Saraland (AL)
96.   Coppell (TX)
97.   Cincinnati (OH) Princeton
98.   Lake Mary (FL)
99.   Fairbanks (GA) Langston Hughes
100.   Olney (MD) Our Lady  of Good Counsel

Cardinal Mooney lost 49-0, at home, to STA. They don't belong in the top 100.
Lake Mary lost 26-17, at home, to Gainesville Buchholz. They don't belong in the top 100.

As happens every single season, because the kickoff classics don't count in the final records, many presume them to be the equivalent of NFL exhibitions, or scrimmages with altered rules etc. And, as is the case every season, this is dead wrong.

Both of the aforementioned games were broadcast live, and remain as we speak, on YouTube. If anyone is skeptical of my claims, you can go watch those games. For my own amusement, try to share what it is you saw when you viewed the games which makes you think I'm wrong.

Cardinal Mooney lost 49-0, at home, to STA. They don't belong in the top 100.
Lake Mary lost 26-17, at home, to Gainesville Buchholz. They don't belong in the top 100.

As happens every single season, because the kickoff classics don't count in the final records, many presume them to be the equivalent of NFL exhibitions, or scrimmages with altered rules etc. And, as is the case every season, this is dead wrong.

Both of the aforementioned games were broadcast live, and remain as we speak, on YouTube. If anyone is skeptical of my claims, you can go watch those games. For my own amusement, try to share what it is you saw when you viewed the games which makes you think I'm wrong.

Cardinal Mooney is 0-0 on the year. Their season starts this Friday.

On another note, I did see a write up from the Bishop Moore/Lake Brantley exhibition scrimmage last week where Bishop Moore pulled their starters in the 3rd quarter with the game only 1 score. 28-21. B Moore's backups did better the second half of the game than Lake Brantley's adding 10 more to finish the preseason game 38-21

Cardinal Mooney is 0-0 on the year. Their season starts this Friday.

On another note, I did see a write up from the Bishop Moore/Lake Brantley exhibition scrimmage last week where Bishop Moore pulled their starters in the 3rd quarter with the game only 1 score. 28-21. B Moore's backups did better the second half of the game than Lake Brantley's adding 10 more to finish the preseason game 38-21

This site's scoreboard reads that Tampa Catholic whipped IMG 37-17. Misprint, or was that IMG's B team?

This site's scoreboard reads that Tampa Catholic whipped IMG 37-17. Misprint, or was that IMG's B team?

They play Lone Peak Friday.

This site's scoreboard reads that Tampa Catholic whipped IMG 37-17. Misprint, or was that IMG's B team?

B or C team. I think they have 2 local type teams

Cardinal Mooney lost 49-0, at home, to STA. They don't belong in the top 100.
Lake Mary lost 26-17, at home, to Gainesville Buchholz. They don't belong in the top 100.

As happens every single season, because the kickoff classics don't count in the final records, many presume them to be the equivalent of NFL exhibitions, or scrimmages with altered rules etc. And, as is the case every season, this is dead wrong.

Both of the aforementioned games were broadcast live, and remain as we speak, on YouTube. If anyone is skeptical of my claims, you can go watch those games. For my own amusement, try to share what it is you saw when you viewed the games which makes you think I'm wrong.

Florida people better get used to that 49-0 score.
STA beat Moony so badly Moony's star player transferred over to Carol City. Only in the State of Florida can that happen.  🤠

How many transfers has Carol City picked up in the last 2 years now? 25?.... Hell, they may pick 2 or 3 more before kickoff of their first game . Joke!

Cardinal Mooney lost 49-0, at home, to STA. They don't belong in the top 100.
Lake Mary lost 26-17, at home, to Gainesville Buchholz. They don't belong in the top 100.

As happens every single season, because the kickoff classics don't count in the final records, many presume them to be the equivalent of NFL exhibitions, or scrimmages with altered rules etc. And, as is the case every season, this is dead wrong.

Both of the aforementioned games were broadcast live, and remain as we speak, on YouTube. If anyone is skeptical of my claims, you can go watch those games. For my own amusement, try to share what it is you saw when you viewed the games which makes you think I'm wrong.

Never have been able to determine how much emphasis to put on scrimmage games.  I know that Mooney beat a pretty solid Berkley team last night, 38-21 to go 1-0.

Never have been able to determine how much emphasis to put on scrimmage games.  I know that Mooney beat a pretty solid Berkley team last night, 38-21 to go 1-0.

You signal you do not understand when you refer to them as "scrimmage games". It's understandable...so long as you refuse to actually watch any of them for, say, a minimum of one minute. Ultimately, you have to ask yourself the following: Why would teams travel sometimes several hours each way, play a full game with full typical rules, before large crowds who paid regular prices to attend depite the game also being streamed live for free on YouTube, talk major shit before, during and after the games, and claim bragging rights when they win, if they weren't doing everything they could to win the game? Why did Teddy Bridgewater call into the Northwestern lockerroom to celebrate with the Bulls after they stomped Lakeland last season if it was a mere dress rehearsal to determine the 53 man roster? Why was there a standing room only crowd watching Carol City rally to win over West Boca, leading to a massive celebration, if the main goal was to get the backups some work and work out some kinks?

Here is where the confusion lies: Yes, it is true, those who lost those games remain 0-0, and none of their postseason dreams are directly impacted in the results...but you ABSOLUTELY can use the games to judge the quality of teams in comparison to each other. At least in Florida. I can't speak for Indiana, or Kentucky etc. Yours is not an objective standings list, it is a subjective, evaluative ranking meant to compare teams against others. The fact that losing teams remain 0-0 is mostly meaningless for subjective rankings. Carol City was rightfully ranked highly despite a mediocre 2025 and a 0-0 record as of two days ago because people *evaluated* the roster of the 2026 team and knew they are loaded.

Lake Mary was 0-0 after last Friday...but they absolutely lost by two scores at home to Buchholz, and thus there is zero doubt they aren't as good as Buchholz and belong beneath them in any evaluative rankings. Mooney lost 49-0 at home to STA, being down 36-0 at the half. While STA is rightfully number one in Florida, and would make many good teams look bad, THAT BAD of a beatdown means Mooney can not be a top 100 team. STA humiliated Lakeland in the state title game, but at least Lakeland was the only team all season- including Mater Dei- to keep STA from scoring a TD of any kind through the first three quarters of the game. There was at least some resistance there, whereas Mooney provided zero. In 2025, Mooney locked STA into a 4-quarter dogfight in Fort Lauderdale. We can be certain the gap between the two has widened dramatically. That might be why Mooney dodged Venice who was looking for a game recently.

You signal you do not understand when you refer to them as "scrimmage games". It's understandable...so long as you refuse to actually watch any of them for, say, a minimum of one minute. Ultimately, you have to ask yourself the following: Why would teams travel sometimes several hours each way, play a full game with full typical rules, before large crowds who paid regular prices to attend depite the game also being streamed live for free on YouTube, talk major shit before, during and after the games, and claim bragging rights when they win, if they weren't doing everything they could to win the game? Why did Teddy Bridgewater call into the Northwestern lockerroom to celebrate with the Bulls after they stomped Lakeland last season if it was a mere dress rehearsal to determine the 53 man roster? Why was there a standing room only crowd watching Carol City rally to win over West Boca, leading to a massive celebration, if the main goal was to get the backups some work and work out some kinks?

Here is where the confusion lies: Yes, it is true, those who lost those games remain 0-0, and none of their postseason dreams are directly impacted in the results...but you ABSOLUTELY can use the games to judge the quality of teams in comparison to each other. At least in Florida. I can't speak for Indiana, or Kentucky etc. Yours is not an objective standings list, it is a subjective, evaluative ranking meant to compare teams against others. The fact that losing teams remain 0-0 is mostly meaningless for subjective rankings. Carol City was rightfully ranked highly despite a mediocre 2025 and a 0-0 record as of two days ago because people *evaluated* the roster of the 2026 team and knew they are loaded.

Lake Mary was 0-0 after last Friday...but they absolutely lost by two scores at home to Buchholz, and thus there is zero doubt they aren't as good as Buchholz and belong beneath them in any evaluative rankings. Mooney lost 49-0 at home to STA, being down 36-0 at the half. While STA is rightfully number one in Florida, and would make many good teams look bad, THAT BAD of a beatdown means Mooney can not be a top 100 team. STA humiliated Lakeland in the state title game, but at least Lakeland was the only team all season- including Mater Dei- to keep STA from scoring a TD of any kind through the first three quarters of the game. There was at least some resistance there, whereas Mooney provided zero. In 2025, Mooney locked STA into a 4-quarter dogfight in Fort Lauderdale. We can be certain the gap between the two has widened dramatically. That might be why Mooney dodged Venice who was looking for a game recently.

The thing is, either the games count in the teams record or they don't.... If they don't it's a scrimmage.... If "It's Complicated" it doesn't matter it's a scrimmage.... 🤣

The thing is, either the games count in the teams record or they don't.... If they don't it's a scrimmage.... If "It's Complicated" it doesn't matter it's a scrimmage.... 🤣

The number of elite prospects on a team counts for zero in the teams record...but it is plenty informative in telling us a team is likely very good or not.

The word 'scrimmage' evokes differing images for people. For me, and I suspect most people, they envision something informal, with some rules alterations, a focus more on getting the team ready for future games than winning the scrimmage, experimenting with different players and schemes, and a general indifference to the score. I picture an NFL exhibition, or something even less formal than that, when I see the word 'scrimmage'. Only a moron puts real stock into an NFL team's preseason record, for example. The kickoff classics, in Florida in the 2020s, are absolutely valid ways to subjectively evaluate and compare teams. The word 'scrimmage', at least as to how most interpret it, is an erroneous description of Florida kickoff classics.

The number of elite prospects on a team counts for zero in the teams record...but it is plenty informative in telling us a team is likely very good or not.

The word 'scrimmage' evokes differing images for people. For me, and I suspect most people, they envision something informal, with some rules alterations, a focus more on getting the team ready for future games than winning the scrimmage, experimenting with different players and schemes, and a general indifference to the score. I picture an NFL exhibition, or something even less formal than that, when I see the word 'scrimmage'. Only a moron puts real stock into an NFL team's preseason record, for example. The kickoff classics, in Florida in the 2020s, are absolutely valid ways to subjectively evaluate and compare teams. The word 'scrimmage', at least as to how most interpret it, is an erroneous description of Florida kickoff classics.

OK Then let's call them Exhibition games.... They don't count in the teams record so they are not real games.... 🤣

OK Then let's call them Exhibition games.... They don't count in the teams record so they are not real games.... 🤣

Scrimmage
Exhibition
Preseason

It's all the same. He is trying to make the point that the kids and coaches try to win in the kickoff classic. But that's implying that the counter to his argument is they are all trying to lose. No one is going into any type of competitive format with the intention of losing. So it's kind of useless to state the obvious. The only thing that the kickoff preseason exhibition scrimmage during week zero does is knock the rust off a little bit, and let the kids hit another team in a live format before the season starts. That's it. Anything else is reading WWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY too much into it

Scrimmage
Exhibition
Preseason

It's all the same. He is trying to make the point that the kids and coaches try to win in the kickoff classic. But that's implying that the counter to his argument is they are all trying to lose. No one is going into any type of competitive format with the intention of losing. So it's kind of useless to state the obvious. The only thing that the kickoff preseason exhibition scrimmage during week zero does is knock the rust off a little bit, and let the kids hit another team in a live format before the season starts. That's it. Anything else is reading WWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY too much into it

That's exactly what I am saying, Do NFL teams Try to lose pre season games?.... No, and the games don't count and they are irrelevant no matter what the outcome other then teams trying to sharpen up.... Claiming that these games should be considered in rankings is just stupid.... 🤣