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Quote from: Wooderson on Mar 01, 2026, 01:58 PMI specifically said "largest classification" in my statement, and the term "certain states". You either struggle with basic reading or are not arguing in good faith.
It's both!!

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Quote from: Redzone on Mar 01, 2026, 01:16 PMI guess Alcoa, TN and Maryville, TN are National Powers then, right.
Only if the teams they beat beat some other quality teams (whether OOS or top in-state teams). Maryville and Alcoa have not, Bixby has.

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The facts of the matter are simple.
If you play OOS teams you are going to take some losses. Doesn't matter how great you are or what state you're from.
Look at Florida last year.

Bixby has NO desire to take losses.
They have been knocking out the same boring Oklahoma teams for the last 8 or 9 years. Oklahoma has even less talent than Arizona.

In the boxing world though people would be saying fight somebody Bixby!!







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Quote from: Redzone on Mar 01, 2026, 11:32 PMThe facts of the matter are simple.
If you play OOS teams you are going to take some losses. Doesn't matter how great you are or what state you're from.
Look at Florida last year.

Bixby has NO desire to take losses.
They have been knocking out the same boring Oklahoma teams for the last 8 or 9 years. Oklahoma has even less talent than Arizona.

In the boxing world though people would be saying fight somebody Bixby!!







What you say is true, but what you don't seem to grasp is that a team that doesn't play OOS doesn't necessarily mean they are a bad team. They are obviously talented, as they have proven by their domination of Oklahoma. Historically, the Sooner state has fared well against top competition from surrounding states. There is no reason to think Bixby wouldn't either.

Those boggy mires down there in Cajun country have clouded your judgement.

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Quote from: Omaha Vol on Mar 02, 2026, 04:59 PMWhat you say is true, but what you don't seem to grasp is that a team that doesn't play OOS doesn't necessarily mean they are a bad team. They are obviously talented, as they have proven by their domination of Oklahoma. Historically, the Sooner state has fared well against top competition from surrounding states. There is no reason to think Bixby wouldn't either.

Those boggy mires down there in Cajun country have clouded your judgement.

2010
Union, OK 44 Evangel Christian, La 32
St Thomas More (STM), La 20 Evangel Christian, La 19

2011
Union, OK 20 Evangel Christian, La 0
St Thomas More (STM), La 41 Evangel Christian, La 26

St Thomas More has won D2 Select State Championships in 2019, 2020, 2022 and 2023.

In the MaxPreps era (2004) St Thomas More is 7-2 vs Evangel Christian.

Is St Thomas More a National Power?
The simple answer would be NO.
That said. St Thomas More and John Curtis are the two best coached teams in Louisiana year in and year out. Both have coaching legends.

Union beating Evangel Christian a couple times 15 years ago means nothing to me and basing Bixby's football status on those games is just plain ridiculous.

We'll chat more when the Bixby schedule comes out.





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Quote from: Redzone on Mar 03, 2026, 05:17 AM2010
Union, OK 44 Evangel Christian, La 32
St Thomas More (STM), La 20 Evangel Christian, La 19

2011
Union, OK 20 Evangel Christian, La 0
St Thomas More (STM), La 41 Evangel Christian, La 26

St Thomas More has won D2 Select State Championships in 2019, 2020, 2022 and 2023.

In the MaxPreps era (2004) St Thomas More is 7-2 vs Evangel Christian.

Is St Thomas More a National Power?
The simple answer would be NO.
That said. St Thomas More and John Curtis are the two best coached teams in Louisiana year in and year out. Both have coaching legends.

Union beating Evangel Christian a couple times 15 years ago means nothing to me and basing Bixby's football status on those games is just plain ridiculous.

We'll chat more when the Bixby schedule comes out.





First off, STM was/is no slouch. They are usually a tough out. That's not a good example on your part. Union and Jenks took on other OOS powers over the years, ranging from Hoover to Fayetteville to some of the top TX teams. Not just ECA. They won some and lost some. The point is, Bixby has proven they are as good as, if not better than, those Union and Jenks teams were back then.

Your fixation with them is mind boggling, swamp turd.

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Since the MaxPreps era (2004) Catholic (Baton Rouge) is 8-6 vs STM.
Catholic has won the last 2 meetings.
2025
Catholic 35 STM 28
2024
Catholic 18 STM 14

They play again this year. It's a good and entertaining series.

Point?

If STM goes 14-0 this year or any year and wins the Louisiana D1 Select State Championship the Hillbilly or anyone else is NOT going to "Love On" STM like you do Bixby.

And the Louisiana D1 Select playoffs are much tougher than the Oklahoma 6A1 playoffs it's not even funny. Joke playoffs.

Oklahoma 6A1 playoffs >12 teams, 4 get byes....end of playoffs  if a team was going to win 20 State Championships in a row Oklahoma would be the state to do it in.




 





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Quote from: Redzone on Mar 03, 2026, 05:17 AM2010
Union, OK 44 Evangel Christian, La 32
St Thomas More (STM), La 20 Evangel Christian, La 19

2011
Union, OK 20 Evangel Christian, La 0
St Thomas More (STM), La 41 Evangel Christian, La 26

St Thomas More has won D2 Select State Championships in 2019, 2020, 2022 and 2023.

In the MaxPreps era (2004) St Thomas More is 7-2 vs Evangel Christian.

Is St Thomas More a National Power?
The simple answer would be NO.
That said. St Thomas More and John Curtis are the two best coached teams in Louisiana year in and year out. Both have coaching legends.

Union beating Evangel Christian a couple times 15 years ago means nothing to me and basing Bixby's football status on those games is just plain ridiculous.

We'll chat more when the Bixby schedule comes out.





ECA has been a nobody since around 2011.

How did STM do against them between 97-05

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Quote from: Steeler01 on Mar 04, 2026, 10:49 AMECA has been a nobody since around 2011.

How did STM do against them between 97-05

Evangel did win state in 2016 the same year they lost to Allen TX in what is referred to as the "N word game" because Allen was beating state champ Evanfel so bad that a black veteran was making fun of them and RedZone called him the N word for it.

Point is, Evangel has wrecked Lousiana until at least 2016. Lol

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Quote from: Redzone on Mar 04, 2026, 04:21 AMSince the MaxPreps era (2004) Catholic (Baton Rouge) is 8-6 vs STM.
Catholic has won the last 2 meetings.
2025
Catholic 35 STM 28
2024
Catholic 18 STM 14

They play again this year. It's a good and entertaining series.

Point?

If STM goes 14-0 this year or any year and wins the Louisiana D1 Select State Championship the Hillbilly or anyone else is NOT going to "Love On" STM like you do Bixby.

And the Louisiana D1 Select playoffs are much tougher than the Oklahoma 6A1 playoffs it's not even funny. Joke playoffs.

Oklahoma 6A1 playoffs >12 teams, 4 get byes....end of playoffs  if a team was going to win 20 State Championships in a row Oklahoma would be the state to do it in.


When St. Thomas More went 14-0 in 2023 they had four regular season games decided by ten points or less; this past season Bixby didn't have a game decided by less than 14 points. Of course you thought that through, thus the "Louisiana playoffs are super-tough" line.

The problem is all you did was "think it through", as a little bit of research would have uncovered that teams like Owasso, Jenks, and Mustang each had 3+ D1 signees (per 247) while the only team 2023 St. Thomas More played that could make that claim was Lafayette Christian. This makes the claim that Louisiana is markedly "tougher" than Oklahoma significantly more debatable than you'd like to lead on, as Louisiana's prowess at producing D1 talent ceases to be relevant to this conversation when one realizes that STM played but a small fraction of the state's best athletes in 2023.

You're demanding that STM get equal accolades to a team that was more dominant, more talented, and beat arguably better teams than what they did.  That's not a reasonable expectation.

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Quote from: Wooderson on Mar 04, 2026, 11:42 AMWhen St. Thomas More went 14-0 in 2023 they had four regular season games decided by ten points or less; this past season Bixby didn't have a game decided by less than 14 points. Of course you thought that through, thus the "Louisiana playoffs are super-tough" line.

The problem is all you did was "think it through", as a little bit of research would have uncovered that teams like Owasso, Jenks, and Mustang each had 3+ D1 signees (per 247) while the only team 2023 St. Thomas More played that could make that claim was Lafayette Christian. This makes the claim that Louisiana is markedly "tougher" than Oklahoma significantly more debatable than you'd like to lead on, as Louisiana's prowess at producing D1 talent ceases to be relevant to this conversation when one realizes that STM played but a small fraction of the state's best athletes in 2023.

You're demanding that STM get equal accolades to a team that was more dominant, more talented, and beat arguably better teams than what they did.  That's not a reasonable expectation.

Dang! Hit this creep with so much facts it will make his head spin. I guarantee you he won't respond with anything of substance. Just dismiss it completely and name call. Or ignore outright. Truth is Louisiana might have one decent bracket per year and the rest are a bunch of duds with the tallest midget coming out on top.

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Quote from: Wooderson on Mar 04, 2026, 11:42 AMWhen St. Thomas More went 14-0 in 2023 they had four regular season games decided by ten points or less; this past season Bixby didn't have a game decided by less than 14 points. Of course you thought that through, thus the "Louisiana playoffs are super-tough" line.

The problem is all you did was "think it through", as a little bit of research would have uncovered that teams like Owasso, Jenks, and Mustang each had 3+ D1 signees (per 247) while the only team 2023 St. Thomas More played that could make that claim was Lafayette Christian. This makes the claim that Louisiana is markedly "tougher" than Oklahoma significantly more debatable than you'd like to lead on, as Louisiana's prowess at producing D1 talent ceases to be relevant to this conversation when one realizes that STM played but a small fraction of the state's best athletes in 2023.

You're demanding that STM get equal accolades to a team that was more dominant, more talented, and beat arguably better teams than what they did.  That's not a reasonable expectation.

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, Woody and I don't think you do either.

What I know is this.
St Thomas More went 14-0 in 2023 (true), won the Louisiana D2 Select state championship. They ended the year #1 in Louisiana and #63 nationally per MaxPreps. I said already STM is not a national power so that's a good National ranking. STM much like Bixby just doesn't have the horses to run nationally. That doesn't mean both can't be good at football.

St Thomas More did beat the D1 Select state champion Catholic (Baton Rouge) 35-28 in 2023. That helped their national ranking.

https://www.maxpreps.com/la/lafayette/st-thomas-more-cougars/football/23-24/schedule/

St Thomas More now plays in Louisiana Select D1, the highest class of privates, open enrollment and charter schools.

4 different select classes, Woody.
D1
D2
D3
D4

Let me know if you need some more help.



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Quote from: Nolebull813 on Mar 04, 2026, 11:31 AMEvangel did win state in 2016 the same year they lost to Allen TX in what is referred to as the "N word game" because Allen was beating state champ Evanfel so bad that a black veteran was making fun of them and RedZone called him the N word for it.

Point is, Evangel has wrecked Lousiana until at least 2016. Lol
ECA wasn't playing the best teams in 2016. The early 2000s teams dominated Louisiana and they were beating the best Louisiana had to offer.

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Quote from: Nolebull813 on Mar 04, 2026, 12:03 PMDang! Hit this creep with so much facts it will make his head spin. I guarantee you he won't respond with anything of substance. Just dismiss it completely and name call. Or ignore outright. Truth is Louisiana might have one decent bracket per year and the rest are a bunch of duds with the tallest midget coming out on top.
That's pretty accurate

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Quote from: Steeler01 on Mar 04, 2026, 03:00 PMECA wasn't playing the best teams in 2016. The early 2000s teams dominated Louisiana and they were beating the best Louisiana had to offer.

That's true. Evangel was curb stomping Louisiana so bad that they had to go out and get 2-4 OOS games per year. And they would lose all of them. Lol. Way in over their head. Straight up small ball. They were a powerhouse in state, and punching bag out of state.