Canton Snubs

Started by Crusader, Jan 28, 2026, 01:53 PM

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Belichick got snubbed yesterday and now Eli gets snubbed again today. Who knows who else will follow in the coming days? These voters have clearly demonstrated over the past year that they know nothing about the sport that they are voting on.

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Quote from: Crusader on Jan 28, 2026, 01:53 PMBelichick got snubbed yesterday and now Eli gets snubbed again today. Who knows who else will follow in the coming days? These voters have clearly demonstrated over the past year that they know nothing about the sport that they are voting on.
Eli has no business being in the HOF

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Quote from: Steeler01 on Jan 28, 2026, 03:32 PMEli has no business being in the HOF

Nonsense. One of the NFL's most clutch performers who took down the league's greatest dynasty twice & scored the greatest upset in league history.

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Quote from: Crusader on Jan 28, 2026, 05:01 PMNonsense. One of the NFL's most clutch performers who took down the league's greatest dynasty twice & scored the greatest upset in league history.
The Pats scored a whooping 14 points in the super bowl.  A record breaking offense scored 14 points and you think the QB won that game?

If a team scores 17 points or fewer in the NFL they lose 80 percent of those games. 

If a team scores 14 or fewer they lose 88 percent of the time.

The Pats fall into both of those categories in the super bowls they played vs the giants.  If anything,  the Giants should've won by more in the 2008 super bowl, if Manning had actually performed well.

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Quote from: Crusader on Jan 28, 2026, 05:01 PMNonsense. One of the NFL's most clutch performers who took down the league's greatest dynasty twice & scored the greatest upset in league history.

I think he is Borderline right now, but should probably be in eventually.... He was a Clutch performer and won 2 SB's and had a really good playoff performer....

What hurts him is he never led the league in passing and was never an MVP or All Pro and only made 4 pro bowls.... And he played 16 or 17 years.... But I would not disagree with him being put in the HOF and probably gets in one day....

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The average NFL QB lasts between 3-5 years.

Eli played for 16 seasons same team and started 234 out of 236 regular season games.

He also started 210 consecutive games which is 3rd most in NFL history.

He was a 2* at Newman in New Orleans and a 2* at Ole Miss.
Not bad!

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Quote from: Crusader on Jan 28, 2026, 01:53 PMBelichick got snubbed yesterday and now Eli gets snubbed again today. Who knows who else will follow in the coming days? These voters have clearly demonstrated over the past year that they know nothing about the sport that they are voting on.

Bill did have some cheating issues that may have stopped him from being a first ballot. But Eli?  I do not look at him and his career and think HOF'er.

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Quote from: AztecPadre on Jan 30, 2026, 10:47 AMBill did have some cheating issues that may have stopped him from being a first ballot. But Eli?  I do not look at him and his career and think HOF'er.
It's funny how people (not saying you) want to bring up cheating in professional sports like and it's rare and we should alll be up in arms about it. Cheating has been part of professional sports from day one. That's why they have the saying "If you ain't cheating you ain't trying". Baseball sign stealing is tried every damn game (Astros just were stupid about it). Deflateagate is the same, quarterbacks will do anything to make passing easier and more accurate (Patriots were stupid enough to get caught) I could go on and on. 3/4 of the HOF shouldn't have been inducted if that was a criteria.

I agree with you on Eli, if you take away his 2 SB years and look at his career (I think 2011 was his only HOF worthy year of his career) he looks mediocre at best. His last few years were atrocious. How is 3tds over 2 Super Bowls HOF worthy. Someone please give me his upside because I can't see it.

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Quote from: Norcalnut on Jan 30, 2026, 04:40 PMI agree with you on Eli, if you take away his 2 SB years and look at his career (I think 2011 was his only HOF worthy year of his career) he looks mediocre at best. His last few years were atrocious. How is 3tds over 2 Super Bowls HOF worthy. Someone please give me his upside because I can't see it.
On the same token, as a head coach Belichick had a losing record and, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't win any playoff games when Brady was not playing for him. In the NFL players don't really need coaching by the time they reach that level. I feel coaching players is better suited for the college ranks when young men are still developing. So far, not so good for Belichick at UNC.....

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Quote from: Omaha Vol on Jan 30, 2026, 09:59 PMOn the same token, as a head coach Belichick had a losing record and, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't win any playoff games when Brady was not playing for him. In the NFL players don't really need coaching by the time they reach that level. I feel coaching players is better suited for the college ranks when young men are still developing. So far, not so good for Belichick at UNC.....

Wait.... Did you really say that NFL Players don't need any Coaching?.... My Dude, that is Ridiculous!.... 🤣🤣

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Quote from: TheOC89 on Jan 30, 2026, 11:27 PMWait.... Did you really say that NFL Players don't need any Coaching?.... My Dude, that is Ridiculous!.... 🤣🤣
At that level they really shouldn't need it fundamentality. It's the different schemes that each particular coach likes to implement that each player needs to learn. Some players can grasp it, some can't. All I'm saying is without Brady's talent, Belichick had a losing record coach-wise. So, yes, most NFL players shouldn't need extensive coaching. College is where they need to be coached up and turned into professionals.

I'm baffled that you see that as being ridiculous? 

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I hope Reggie Wayne from New Orleans makes it this time.
He's been a finalist for 7 years.

He was a solid 1* at John Ehret (NOLA) and a solid 1* with the Miami Hurricanes.

Anyone affiliated with Louisiana is a 1* or 2*.

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Quote from: Redzone on Jan 31, 2026, 05:29 AMI hope Reggie Wayne from New Orleans makes it this time.
He's been a finalist for 7 years.

He was a solid 1* at John Ehret (NOLA) and a solid 1* with the Miami Hurricanes.

Anyone affiliated with Louisiana is a 1* or 2*.

Torry Holt should be in before Wayne and probably Steve Smith as well.

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Quote from: Steeler01 on Jan 31, 2026, 12:10 PMTorry Holt should be in before Wayne and probably Steve Smith as well.
I think those three more equally deserving than not, careers are pretty similar. With that being said all three are way more deserving than Eli.

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Quote from: Norcalnut on Jan 31, 2026, 12:36 PMI think those three more equally deserving than not, careers are pretty similar. With that being said all three are way more deserving than Eli.
And it's not close