1.   Bellflower (CA) St. John Bosco (9-0)
2.   Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy (7-0)
3.   Las Vegas (NV) Bishop Gorman (9-1)
4.   Loganville (GA) Grayson (9-0)
5.   Baltimore (MD) St. Frances Academy (6-1) 
6.   Buford (GA) (9-0)
7.   Chatsworth (CA) Sierra Canyon (9-0)
8.   Hollywood (FL) Chaminade-Madonna (7-1) 
9.   Southlake (TX) Carroll (9-0)
10.   Santa Ana (CA) Mater Dei (6-2)   
11.   Fort Lauderdale (FL) St. Thomas Aquinas (7-1) 
12.   Carrollton (GA) (9-0) 
13.   Rancho Santa Margarita (CA) Santa Margarita (6-3)     
14.   Miami (FL) Northwestern (7-1)   
15.   Corona (CA) Centennial (8-1) 
16.   New Orleans (LA) Edna Karr (8-0) 
17.   Concord (CA) De La Salle (7-0)
18.   Ramsey (NJ) Don Bosco Prep (8-0)
19.   Duncanville (TX) (5-1) 
20.   Fairburn (GA) Creekside (9-0)
21.   Draper (UT) Corner Canyon (8-1) 
22.   Austin (TX) Lake Travis (8-0)
23.   Miami (FL) Central (7-1)
24.   Mission Viejo (CA) (8-1)
25.   Chandler (AZ) Hamilton (8-0)
26.   Allen (TX) (8-0)
27.   Lakeland (FL) (8-1)
28.   Greensboro (NC) Grimsley (9-0)   
29.   Fairbanks (GA) Langston Hughes (9-0)
30.   Dallas (TX) South Oak Cliff (7-1)
31.   Chicago (IL) Mt. Carmel (9-0)
32.   Peoria (AZ) Liberty (7-1) 
33.   Hyattsville (MD) DeMatha (8-0)
34.   Greenwood Village (CO) Cherry Creek (9-0)
35.   Galena Park (TX) North Shore (6-1)
36.   Brownsburg (IN) (9-0)
37.   Bixby (OK) (8-0)
38.   Murfreesboro (TN) Oakland (9-0)
39.   Fort Worth (TX) North Crowley (7-1) 
40.   Detroit (MI) Cass Tech (9-0)
41.   Chattanooga (TN) Baylor (8-0)
42.   Thomasville (GA) Thomas County Central (9-0)
43.   Cincinnati (OH) Elder (10-0)
44.   Pinson (AL) Clay-Chalkville (10-0)
45.   Prosper (TX) (7-1)
46.   Bryant (AR) (8-0)
47.   Wyndmoor (PA) La Salle College Prep (8-1)     
48.   Irmo (SC) Dutch Fork (7-1)
49.   Aledo (TX) (8-0)
50.   Phenix City (AL) Central (9-1)
51.   Chandler (AZ) Basha (7-1) 
52.   Cincinnati (OH) Anderson (10-0)
53.   Charlotte (NC) Providence Day (9-0)
54.   DeSoto (TX) (5-3)
55.   Seffner (FL) Armwood (9-0)
56.   Suwanee (GA) North Gwinnett (8-1)
57.   Oradell (NJ) Bergen Catholic (6-2)
58.   Akron (OH) Archbishop Hoban (8-1)
59.   Austin (TX) Westlake (6-2)
60.   Columbia (SC) Irmo (9-0)
61.   Nixa (MO) (9-0)
62.   Cornelius (NC) Hough (9-0)   
63.   Lakewood (OH) St. Edward (8-2) 
64.   Valdosta (GA) Lowndes (9-0)
65.   Folsom (CA) (8-1)
66.   Richmond (TX) Randle (7-0)
67.   Powder Springs (GA) McEachern (9-0)
68.   Malvern (PA) Prep (7-1)
69.   Roswell (GA) (8-1)
70.   Brentwood (TN) Academy (8-0)
71.   Cincinnati (OH) Archbishop Moeller (7-3)     
72.   Kaysville (UT) Davis (9-1)
73.   Cincinnati (OH) St. Xavier (7-2)
74.   Omaha (NE) Millard South (8-0) 
75.   West Linn (OR) (8-0)
76.   Harrisburg (PA) (10-0)
77.   Orlando (FL) Edgewater (8-0)
78.   Clayton (NC) Cleveland (9-0)
79.   West Point (MS) (8-0)
80.   River Ridge (LA) John Curtis (7-0)
81.   Novi (MI) Central Catholic (9-0)
82.   Louisville (KY) Trinity (8-2)
83.   Philadelphia (PA) St. Joseph Prep (5-4) 
84.   Chattanooga (TN) McCallie (7-2)
85.   Stephenville (TX) (8-0)
86.   St. Louis (MO) Christian Brothers (9-0)
87.   Highlands Ranch (CO) Mountain Vista (9-0)
88.   Gainesville (GA) (8-2)
89.   Chicago (IL) Brother Rice (8-1)
90.   Rock Hill (SC) South Pointe (8-1)
91.   Blue Springs (MO) South (9-0)
92.   Henderson (NV) Liberty (9-1)
93.   Greenwood (IN) Center Grove (8-1)
94.   East St. Louis (IL) (5-3)
95.   Miami (FL) Southridge (8-1)
96.   Jersey City (NJ) St. Peters Prep (7-1)
97.   New Orleans (LA) St. Augustine (7-1)
98.   Tupelo (MS) (8-1)
99.   Milton (GA) (7-2)
100.   Bentonville (AR) (8-0)

I believe your Top 50 to be quite reasonable.

Who knows about the bottom...LOL.




Rufus>>

There's nothing on MNW's resume to justify them being 37 spots better than Basha, and taking into account the limited historical instances of Chandler schools playing Miami publics (2-0, with neither game being particularly close) it's all the more confounding. Both played OLu at home, with Basha having a narrow win and MNW having a narrow loss. That alone says they should be ranked in lock-step with one another.

Overall I think there are some one-loss teams you're giving a free pass to that their body of work this season hasn't earned. IMO there's no way to justify Corner Canyon being a top 25 team with a three-score loss to a four-loss team (also, it's their second loss to that team in 12 months). Am I picking against them to win their state title? Absolutely not, but again IMO we don't assume that's the outcome and attach it to their resume a month before we should; again,  the Lone Peak loss is a bad, BAD loss. I feel similarly about Mission Viejo, MNW, and (to  a lesser degree) Duncanville; I can accept that those losses are perceived as "flukes" but frankly that only emphasizes how bad those losses are.

It feels like these teams were handed a resume chalk full of accomplishments at the start of the season and only see that marginally impacted by what happens during the year. Meanwhile teams like Hamilton, Bixby, Prosper, etc. are expected to build their resume as they go and it held against them when they have less on their resume than that first group of teams.

There's nothing on MNW's resume to justify them being 37 spots better than Basha, and taking into account the limited historical instances of Chandler schools playing Miami publics (2-0, with neither game being particularly close) it's all the more confounding. Both played OLu at home, with Basha having a narrow win and MNW having a narrow loss. That alone says they should be ranked in lock-step with one another.

Overall I think there are some one-loss teams you're giving a free pass to that their body of work this season hasn't earned. IMO there's no way to justify Corner Canyon being a top 25 team with a three-score loss to a four-loss team (also, it's their second loss to that team in 12 months). Am I picking against them to win their state title? Absolutely not, but again IMO we don't assume that's the outcome and attach it to their resume a month before we should; again,  the Lone Peak loss is a bad, BAD loss. I feel similarly about Mission Viejo, MNW, and (to  a lesser degree) Duncanville; I can accept that those losses are perceived as "flukes" but frankly that only emphasizes how bad those losses are.

It feels like these teams were handed a resume chalk full of accomplishments at the start of the season and only see that marginally impacted by what happens during the year. Meanwhile teams like Hamilton, Bixby, Prosper, etc. are expected to build their resume as they go and it held against them when they have less on their resume than that first group of teams.

I agree with you on the Basha/OLu/Miami NW trifecta. All three should be ranked closely together, in that order.

As far as Corner Canyon is concerned I have to disagree. Their butt drilling of Peoria Liberty trumps an upset loss to a rival.

I agree with you on the Basha/OLu/Miami NW trifecta. All three should be ranked closely together, in that order.

As far as Corner Canyon is concerned I have to disagree. Their butt drilling of Peoria Liberty trumps an upset loss to a rival.

How are you (well, Corner Canyon) going to play your rivals and lose by 21? Of all the one-loss teams mentioned I think the Lone Peak loss is the most egregious by some distance, based on the margin of defeat, the recent history with the opponent, and overall quality of the opponent. It's an inexcusable loss as far as I'm concerned.

I can understand utilizing a level of discretion as it relates to losses, but at some point an ass-beating is simply an ass-beating. If we're not going to account for Liberty playing Corner Canyon with just one game under their belt while Corner has three (and to be clear, I AM NOT ASKING FOR THIS) why are we going to create justifications for why Corner Canyon got blasted by a lesser team?

The path of least resistance with a national ranking is to use consistent logic. I don't know why someone would go out of their way to include a team from a non-power state as a top 25 squad when their on-field results give you an out on the matter.

How are you (well, Corner Canyon) going to play your rivals and lose by 21? Of all the one-loss teams mentioned I think the Lone Peak loss is the most egregious by some distance, based on the margin of defeat, the recent history with the opponent, and overall quality of the opponent. It's an inexcusable loss as far as I'm concerned.

I can understand utilizing a level of discretion as it relates to losses, but at some point an ass-beating is simply an ass-beating. If we're not going to account for Liberty playing Corner Canyon with just one game under their belt while Corner has three (and to be clear, I AM NOT ASKING FOR THIS) why are we going to create justifications for why Corner Canyon got blasted by a lesser team?

The path of least resistance with a national ranking is to use consistent logic. I don't know why someone would go out of their way to include a team from a non-power state as a top 25 squad when their on-field results give you an out on the matter.

And I'm not trying to convince you, either (TO BE CLEAR). Corner Canyon blasted Liberty and has been blasting all the top teams in Utah (with the exception of Lone Peak). As long as Liberty keeps rolling in AZ I will keep CC up there. It's not like I have them ranked in the top 10. They are on the cusp of the top 25 and could easily get knocked out with one more bad game.

I'm more concerned that he has Miami NW and Miami Central in his top 25, AHEAD of Hamilton....

And I'm not trying to convince you, either (TO BE CLEAR). Corner Canyon blasted Liberty and has been blasting all the top teams in Utah (with the exception of Lone Peak). As long as Liberty keeps rolling in AZ I will keep CC up there. It's not like I have them ranked in the top 10. They are on the cusp of the top 25 and could easily get knocked out with one more bad game.

I'm more concerned that he has Miami NW and Miami Central in his top 25, AHEAD of Hamilton....

My question is what's the ceiling for Corner Canyon if they pull off an undefeated season with this schedule? IMO that ceiling is right around #12 (there's very little a Utah school can do to offset the negative ramifications of their in-state schedule; ditto for Arizona and Colorado schools), and anything above that is pure speculation.

If a school from one of those states can't run the table in their own state 9 out of 10 times they have no business in a national top 25.

My question is what's the ceiling for Corner Canyon if they pull off an undefeated season with this schedule? IMO that ceiling is right around #12 (there's very little a Utah school can do to offset the negative ramifications of their in-state schedule; ditto for Arizona and Colorado schools), and anything above that is pure speculation.

If a school from one of those states can't run the table in their own state 9 out of 10 times they have no business in a national top 25.

I think Corner Canyon's ceiling would be top 15-20. That is if they swept through their entire schedule. They did not, but the blasting of a good Liberty team is helping their cause this year and keeping them in the top 25. You're correct, though. A team from one of those states would need help with a quality OOS team to move up any higher than that.

My question is what's the ceiling for Corner Canyon if they pull off an undefeated season with this schedule? IMO that ceiling is right around #12 (there's very little a Utah school can do to offset the negative ramifications of their in-state schedule; ditto for Arizona and Colorado schools), and anything above that is pure speculation.

If a school from one of those states can't run the table in their own state 9 out of 10 times they have no business in a national top 25.

This is the reason I can never see Da Bishop getting a natty.  Their season is over after the first 3 or 4 games before instate/league games.  Teams from CA or TX or even GA play an entire season against high level teams which makes it more probable to lose one or 2. BG only plays 1 or 2 good teams each year and then coast all the way to state. JMHO.

I think Corner Canyon's ceiling would be top 15-20. That is if they swept through their entire schedule. They did not, but the blasting of a good Liberty team is helping their cause this year and keeping them in the top 25. You're correct, though. A team from one of those states would need help with a quality OOS team to move up any higher than that.

I view the Liberty game as a much bigger indictment of Liberty than a testament to Corner Canyon. Liberty's 2025 on-field product is not some unique national brand, it's Skyridge with a "Corona didn't annihilate us two years ago" sticker on their forehead.

The product coming out of Arizona, Colorado, and Utah is nearly identical, and as such I don't understand why we should treat a Corner Canyon's win over Liberty as something it's not.