This is objectively incorrect. Mater Dei does not have a huge talent gap on teams like SJB and Sierra Canyon. I don't have MD's or Sierra Canyon's numbers off hand (though I have previously looked at both teams rosters this seasons in terms of CFB recruiting) but when I pulled the recruiting stats earlier this season, SJB had 33 players on their roster with FBS offers - 24 of which were 247 composite 3 stars or higher. There is no universe in which Mater Dei is "not even really close" when comparing their roster talent to teams like SJB and Sierra Canyon. I wouldn't be surprised if SJB had the better stats on paper (which makes the late season collapse even worse for this year's SJB team).

I don't know that this was Mater Dei's least talented team since 2016, but I (along with others who follow the local scene closely) have noticed this seemingly downward trend for Mater Dei. As one example, Mater Dei's Freshman team has forfeited the last two years against SJB. I agree with @TheOC89 and others that Lara was not the right coaching hire for the Monarchs and don't really see them being the juggernaut they were over the last decade with him. Sure, they will continue to be a dangerous and elite team, but probably not the world beaters they have been recently.

You really can't use that philosophy when talking about California and especially the Trinity League.

Just too many players in the Trinity League that are rated 3-star prospects that have a couple measly FCS offers and some with no offers whatsoever. Not saying those players are not good players they're just not 3-star prospects.

In the Trinity League committing to Sacramento State is obviously a big deal

Sacramento State is a decent FCS schoo,l but no better than FCS Southeastern Louisiana.

When you haven't seen Mater Dei in person the last 9 years, you'll never understand the difference.

You're to busy thinking the recruiting sites are spot on.

I don't even know what this means.

That's like saying 3-loss USC is the least talented team in the last 15 years or however many years you want to throw out there.. 🤠 Ha!

Much like this guy at Mater Dei maybe Lincoln Riley is not the right fit at USC.

Sooner or later USC's going to have to deal with that as will Mater Dei, I guess

On paper Mater Dei should have the most lethal passing offense in the nation.

Huge OL
3* QB Wisconsin
5* WR Ohio State
4* WR Ohio State
4* WR Georgia
4* TE USC

The head coach at Mater Dei is definitely not a pass offense guru. 🤠 Ha!

Numbers that pop out to me that wouldn't have seen the field for MD. MD really didn't have any great LBs like they usually do.

Numbers

55
33

Wouldn't start on MD's teams prior to this season. Number 6 for MD was a good player,  but he was a major WR for them and he's more along the lines of a very good WR for a good HS team than a major player for an elite team like MD has been.

@Steeler01 says this Mater Dei team is the least talented Mater Dei team in the last 10 years because of #55 and #33,!!!

Damn you #55 and #33.

🤠🤠🤠 ha!

On paper Mater Dei should have the most lethal passing offense in the nation.

Huge OL
3* QB Wisconsin
5* WR Ohio State
4* WR Ohio State
4* WR Georgia
4* TE USC

The head coach at Mater Dei is definitely not a pass offense guru. 🤠 Ha!

And this is why  going off of ratings by recruiting services is a joke.

At least 3 of those players have no business with the ranking they have.

QB
WR
WR

I'll let you try to decide.

I don't even know what this means.

Of course you don't.

And this is why  going off of ratings by recruiting services is a joke.

At least 3 of those players have no business with the ranking they have.

QB
WR
WR

I'll let you try to decide.

So you're calling Wisconsin, Ohio State and Georgia ignorant when it comes to high school football recruiting...

@Steeler01 is The Guru

I think I've decided you're an idiot.

So you're calling Wisconsin, Ohio State and Georgia ignorant when it comes to high school football recruiting...

@Steeler01 is The Guru

I think I've decided you're an idiot.

You think those guys hit on every recruit?

You think those guys hit on every recruit?

 Nobody hits on everything in ANYTHING!!
I don't think you fully understand how recruiting works.

Who's overrated on Santa Margarita?

Is their 3*  QB Trace Johnson who's committed to Tulane overrated too?

Nobody hits on everything in ANYTHING!!
I don't think you fully understand how recruiting works.

Who's overrated on Santa Margarita?

Is their 3*  QB Trace Johnson who's committed to Tulane overrated too?

He may be overrated just like the MD QB, RSM's offense revolves around #4, have you even seen them play?.... 🤣

So you're calling Wisconsin, Ohio State and Georgia ignorant when it comes to high school football recruiting...

@Steeler01 is The Guru

I think I've decided you're an idiot.

How many Great QB's go to Wisconsin?.... Wisconsin stinks, they will take anyone they can get.... 🤣

He may be overrated just like the MD QB, RSM's offense revolves around #4, have you even seen them play?.... 🤣

Yeah, I've seen Santa Margarita play several times this year. Trace Johnson looks pretty good to me when they let him throw the ball.

and,

Mater Dei QB Ryan Hopkins (the overrated Wisconsin commit) threw for 300 yards and 5 TDs vs St John Bosco.
Doesn't say much for St John Bosco.

I don't want to hear about no YAC. The dude threw some dimes.

Nobody hits on everything in ANYTHING!!
I don't think you fully understand how recruiting works.

Who's overrated on Santa Margarita?

Is their 3*  QB Trace Johnson who's committed to Tulane overrated too?

Johnson's a six-foot-tall quarterback with 15 touchdown passes and less than 100 rushing yards as a senior; pretty objectively he's gotten more collegiate attention than his profile would otherwise dictate.

As for the Mater Dei quarterback, let's engage in a thought experiment and say that at the end of this season Wisconsin chooses to fire their HC (not outside the realm of possibilities). The new HC decides not to honor the offer to the MDQB, and MDQB is now back on the market. If that were to happen, what's the best outcome he could expect considering that 9 of the remaining 11 schools who have offered him already have QB commits, and five of those are guys ranked definitively better than MDQB.

When I see the nation's top prep program have a QB with measurables but nothing but a bunch of mid-tier D1 offers that's a red flag to me. You know every scout in the country has seen MDQB play and outside of UCF, Kentucky, Wisconsin, and a host of other "eh" programs the response has been "no thanks".

Yeah, I've seen Santa Margarita play several times this year. Trace Johnson looks pretty good to me when they let him throw the ball.

and,

Mater Dei QB Ryan Hopkins (the overrated Wisconsin commit) threw for 300 yards and 5 TDs vs St John Bosco.
Doesn't say much for St John Bosco.

I don't want to hear about no YAC. The dude threw some dimes.

HA!.... The Reason RSM doesn't let him throw the ball is he is not that good.... And they did let him throw the Ball, 35+ times against both BG and Servite and he stunk.... He Stunk against SJB as well, he had 13 completions 9 of them to #4, If he didn't have #4 he struggled terribly....

I don't care what the MD kid did in 1 game against SJB, he stunk the rest of the season.... Didn't even complete 60% of his passes and 12 of his 16 TD's went to 2 players.... The Top 2 wideouts where he just threw up 50/50 balls.... 🤣

Anyone who has watched both of these QB's play can tell you they are not D1 players and won't start at the next level....

Johnson's a six-foot-tall quarterback with 15 touchdown passes and less than 100 rushing yards as a senior; pretty objectively he's gotten more collegiate attention than his profile would otherwise dictate.

As for the Mater Dei quarterback, let's engage in a thought experiment and say that at the end of this season Wisconsin chooses to fire their HC (not outside the realm of possibilities). The new HC decides not to honor the offer to the MDQB, and MDQB is now back on the market. If that were to happen, what's the best outcome he could expect considering that 9 of the remaining 11 schools who have offered him already have QB commits, and five of those are guys ranked definitively better than MDQB.

When I see the nation's top prep program have a QB with measurables but nothing but a bunch of mid-tier D1 offers that's a red flag to me. You know every scout in the country has seen MDQB play and outside of UCF, Kentucky, Wisconsin, and a host of other "eh" programs the response has been "no thanks".

Exactly!!.... Neither of those QB's are D1 material, no one is knocking down their door to have them play for them.... RSM had no other option at QB, But MD going with Hopkins was a big mistake and it showed all year.... The Coaching at MD is bringing them down....