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Quote from: Redzone on Oct 05, 2025, 06:54 PMThat's great!
Good stuff!

I laughed hard
I guess if you want to point out what the other teams doing you get super petty

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How many teams will make the California Open Division Playoffs and what could the seedings possibly look like?
Is there a website with this information?

In Louisiana we have power ratings.
D1 Select (5A private basically) which consists of private, charter and open enrollment schools will have 24 teams make the playoffs....  and we can follow along with the weekly power ratings that come out every week like polls. I already have a great idea of what our D1 Select playoffs will look like.

Just curious if there is such an animal in California.




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Quote from: Redzone on Oct 06, 2025, 07:33 AMHow many teams will make the California Open Division Playoffs and what could the seedings possibly look like?
Is there a website with this information?

The current CIFSS playoff agreement is to use the current year CalPreps/HSRatings as the power ratings for determining the divisional playoff team placements (along with some additional requirements based on league placement and overall record for at-large qualifications). There is technically no set number of teams for the CIFSS D1 playoffs. The number of teams placed in D1 is up to the discretion of the SS playoff committee. In 2021, 2023 and 2024 there were 8 teams in D1. In 2022 there were 10 teams. I think theoretically you could see anywhere from 4 to 16 teams, though it will likely be somewhere around 8 teams (based on historical precedence).

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Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 06, 2025, 10:08 AMThe current CIFSS playoff agreement is to use the current year CalPreps/HSRatings as the power ratings for determining the divisional playoff team placements (along with some additional requirements based on league placement and overall record for at-large qualifications). There is technically no set number of teams for the CIFSS D1 playoffs. The number of teams placed in D1 is up to the discretion of the SS playoff committee. In 2021, 2023 and 2024 there were 8 teams in D1. In 2022 there were 10 teams. I think theoretically you could see anywhere from 4 to 16 teams, though it will likely be somewhere around 8 teams (based on historical precedence).

That's interesting and I guess it's a big mystery then.  I don't fully understand why they can't set  a consistent team limit. How hard would that be?

I keep hearing about California teams being lowly D2 division teams.
According to this information lots of teams could possibly miss the Open Playoffs by the thinnest of margins.

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Quote from: Redzone on Oct 06, 2025, 10:34 AMThat's interesting and I guess it's a big mystery then.  I don't fully understand why they can't set  a consistent team limit. How hard would that be?

I keep hearing about California teams being lowly D2 division teams.
According to this information lots of teams could possibly miss the Open Playoffs by the thinnest of margins.

If there is a thin margin between #8 and #9 the CIFSS committee will likely put #9 in D1 instead of D2. That's the entire reason for having flexibility in D1 instead of it being a set number of teams.

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Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 06, 2025, 10:48 AMIf there is a thin margin between #8 and #9 the CIFSS committee will likely put #9 in D1 instead of D2. That's the entire reason for having flexibility in D1 instead of it being a set number of teams.

I understand.
But you can still be a Top 10 California team and be classified as a lowly Division 2 team for OOS game purposes.

"Oh man, they were garbage didn't even make the Open Playoffs last year" 😭

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Quote from: Redzone on Oct 06, 2025, 11:04 AMBut you can still be a Top 10 California team and be classified as a lowly Division 2 team for OOS game purposes.

The Southern Section is just one section in California. It's pretty rare that the top 10 teams in the state are all in the Southern Section. Yes most of the big names (SJB, MD, Centennial, etc.) are in the Southern Section but not all of the best teams in the state are (for example De La Salle). Typically, your top teams in the CIFSS D2 playoffs are end up being in the top 20-15 in the state depending on which ranking service you are referencing. One thing to consider with CalPreps/HSRatings is that they use the concept of playoff bumps, so the team that ends up winning D2 will usually get a good ratings bump by virtue of winning their divisional playoff bracket then potential bowl game and state title game. They may end up starting the playoffs being rated #16 in the state and end up the #5 team in the state according to CalPreps, but if they were placed in the CIFSS D1 bracket they would likely have lost their first game to one of the "big names" and stayed as #16 in the state due to the lack of "playoff bump" Ned uses in his ratings system.

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Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 06, 2025, 11:20 AMThe Southern Section is just one section in California. It's pretty rare that the top 10 teams in the state are all in the Southern Section. Yes most of the big names (SJB, MD, Centennial, etc.) are in the Southern Section but not all of the best teams in the state are (for example De La Salle). Typically, your top teams in the CIFSS D2 playoffs are end up being in the top 20-15 in the state depending on which ranking service you are referencing. One thing to consider with CalPreps/HSRatings is that they use the concept of playoff bumps, so the team that ends up winning D2 will usually get a good ratings bump by virtue of winning their divisional playoff bracket then potential bowl game and state title game. They may end up starting the playoffs being rated #16 in the state and end up the #5 team in the state according to CalPreps, but if they were placed in the CIFSS D1 bracket they would likely have lost their first game to one of the "big names" and stayed as #16 in the state due to the lack of "playoff bump" Ned uses in his ratings system.

.....4-5 Trinity League teams, Sierra Canyon, Centennial, Mission Viejo and DLS...... Who else is in?

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Quote from: Redzone on Oct 06, 2025, 12:43 PM.....4-5 Trinity League teams, Sierra Canyon, Centennial, Mission Viejo and DLS...... Who else is in?

There is no "Open" Playoffs..... The Winner of Southern Section D1 which is 8 to 15 teams depending on the Committee.... And the Nor Cal "Choice" for the open which is the winner of the NCS, CCS or SJS depending on who the Committee likes based on Record, rankings, schedule strength, etc..... This year it will be DLS unless they somehow lose in their way to the NCS championship.....

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Quote from: TheOC89 on Oct 06, 2025, 07:05 PMThere is no "Open" Playoffs.....  .

Open Division 1 then
Just leave off "playoffs".




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Quote from: Redzone on Oct 07, 2025, 05:11 AMOpen Division 1 then
Just leave off "playoffs".




Give it up. This is way over your head. You can't comprehend anything. Do you know comprehend means?

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If SM had any offense they would be scary

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Quote from: Ararar on Oct 10, 2025, 08:17 PMIf SM had any offense they would be scary
Can they put their head coach in to play QB?

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SJB 28 - OLU 0 (Half)

I think OLU has had maybe 40 yards of offense. They have punted every possession. Koa to Madden Williams has been unstoppable so far. Braves also threw in a wrinkle and ran a few plays with RB Ashton Keyes in the wildcat - most likely to force SM/MD staff to spend time prepping for it. Braves get the ball to start 2nd half. I'm expecting a running clock in the 4th.