Since 1990 Louisiana Has Had 4 Different Teams Win Pieces Of The MNC....

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Quote from: Wooderson on Apr 23, 2026, 07:48 AMYou're the one that claimed to "already know". Educate me.

Basha is a White, Hispanic and Asian school.

4.9%-5% African American.

So that means there's roughly between 140 and 145 African Americans at Basha High School which has an enrollment right at 3000.

My best guess is Basha will be busted very soon for recruiting similar to Hamilton in 2022?




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It's definitely not like Phoenix, AZ is booming with the Black population.

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Be nice, Redzone.

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Quote from: Redzone on Apr 23, 2026, 08:27 AMIt's definitely not like Phoenix, AZ is booming with the Black population.

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Be nice, Redzone.

Chandler hitting about 4.9% Black population also.

These schools ain't fooling anybody.

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Quote from: Redzone on Apr 23, 2026, 08:24 AMBasha is a White, Hispanic and Asian school.

4.9%-5% African American.

So that means there's roughly between 140 and 145 African Americans at Basha High School which has an enrollment right at 3000.

My best guess is Basha will be busted very soon for recruiting similar to Hamilton in 2022?





Basha has less than 2500 students. Those are the official numbers as reported for alignment purposes; the higher number seen elsewhere is due to this report that includes sixth through eighth grades for some reason.

(That's actually a big reason Basha's program struggled with consistency before McDonald took over - they had 1000 kids less than Chandler and Hamilton and thanks to back to back to back botched coaching hires they were likely losing neighborhood kids to the more successful programs.)

Your big "smoking gun" that there's "recruiting" going on is that Basha's black enrollment is marginally LESS than the county's?

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

You're BAD at this.


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I guess this coach finally had enough of Hamilton and a couple other schools coming after his players.

The Hamilton incident

https://www.azfamily.com/video/2022/08/16/hamilton-high-school-football-team-placed-probation-after-recruiting-violation/

It''s a crazy scene out there, but when you think about it how could it not be?

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Quote from: Wooderson on Apr 23, 2026, 09:03 AMBasha has less than 2500 students. Those are the official numbers as reported for alignment purposes; the higher number seen elsewhere is due to this report that includes sixth through eighth grades for some reason.

(That's actually a big reason Basha's program struggled with consistency before McDonald took over - they had 1000 kids less than Chandler and Hamilton and thanks to back to back to back botched coaching hires they were likely losing neighborhood kids to the more successful programs.)

Your big "smoking gun" that there's "recruiting" going on is that Basha's black enrollment is marginally LESS than the county's?

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

You're BAD at this.



Just accept the loss, Woody!

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Quote from: Wooderson on Apr 23, 2026, 07:28 AMThe absurdity of it all is that Allen is a very good (if not great) program. Their big shortcoming as it currently stands is they are losing to other programs with giant enrollments.

Truthfully, You're not looking at this in the right perspective either.

Allen has roughly 3,400 to 3,500 boys!!  How could they not be good at football?

Allen has more "boys" than Basha, AZ has "students".
Allen and Ruston were very close to agreeing on a home and home this year, but at the end of the day Allen did not want to pack their shit next year. I'll have to check, but Ruston may have 600 boys in the school. Ruston is  not a very big school, but they are flat loaded this year and if the OL/DL gel they will be a bear.

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Louisiana's never been worried about size too much. The state is just built a little different

"Allen High School is the largest high school in Texas, competing in the highest classification, Class 6A, with a 2024-26 reported enrollment of 6,947. For the 2026-27 realignment, Allen is in District 6-6A, which includes Plano East, McKinney, and Prosper. They are renowned for their $60 million, 18,000-seat stadium"

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Quote from: Redzone on Apr 24, 2026, 05:48 AMTruthfully, You're not looking at this in the right perspective either.

Allen has roughly 3,400 to 3,500 boys!!  How could they not be good at football?

Allen has more "boys" than Basha, AZ has "students".
Allen and Ruston were very close to agreeing on a home and home this year, but at the end of the day Allen did not want to pack their shit next year. I'll have to check, but Ruston may have 600 boys in the school. Ruston is  not a very big school, but they are flat loaded this year and if the OL/DL gel they will be a bear.

Point!
Louisiana's never been worried about size too much. The state is just built a little different

"Allen High School is the largest high school in Texas, competing in the highest classification, Class 6A, with a 2024-26 reported enrollment of 6,947. For the 2026-27 realignment, Allen is in District 6-6A, which includes Plano East, McKinney, and Prosper. They are renowned for their $60 million, 18,000-seat stadium"

Rusty got the tar beat of them by 4A Stephenville and needed a miracle last second score at home with home cooking to beat one of the worst Longview teams in recent memory. They did not want any of what Allen had!!!!

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Quote from: Redzone on Apr 24, 2026, 05:48 AMTruthfully, You're not looking at this in the right perspective either.

Allen has roughly 3,400 to 3,500 boys!!  How could they not be good at football?

Allen has more "boys" than Basha, AZ has "students".
Allen and Ruston were very close to agreeing on a home and home this year, but at the end of the day Allen did not want to pack their shit next year. I'll have to check, but Ruston may have 600 boys in the school. Ruston is  not a very big school, but they are flat loaded this year and if the OL/DL gel they will be a bear.

Point!
Louisiana's never been worried about size too much. The state is just built a little different

"Allen High School is the largest high school in Texas, competing in the highest classification, Class 6A, with a 2024-26 reported enrollment of 6,947. For the 2026-27 realignment, Allen is in District 6-6A, which includes Plano East, McKinney, and Prosper. They are renowned for their $60 million, 18,000-seat stadium"

Again, Allen is not playing a host of teams with small enrollments; all but one of the teams on their 2025 schedule had an enrollment of over 2000, with the majority of those being in excess of 3000 students. Even when you have the LARGEST ENROLLMENT POSSIBLE the advantages of that are blunted by teams with a similar (not even equal) advantage.

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Quote from: Redzone on Apr 24, 2026, 05:48 AMTruthfully, You're not looking at this in the right perspective either.

Allen has roughly 3,400 to 3,500 boys!!  How could they not be good at football?

Allen has more "boys" than Basha, AZ has "students".
Allen and Ruston were very close to agreeing on a home and home this year, but at the end of the day Allen did not want to pack their shit next year. I'll have to check, but Ruston may have 600 boys in the school. Ruston is  not a very big school, but they are flat loaded this year and if the OL/DL gel they will be a bear.

Point!
Louisiana's never been worried about size too much. The state is just built a little different

"Allen High School is the largest high school in Texas, competing in the highest classification, Class 6A, with a 2024-26 reported enrollment of 6,947. For the 2026-27 realignment, Allen is in District 6-6A, which includes Plano East, McKinney, and Prosper. They are renowned for their $60 million, 18,000-seat stadium"
How many kids go to school means absolutely nothing.What means something in this case is how many of those kids are good at football. If you have a 600 enrollment and 100 are good at football it's trumps 3000 with only 50 good at football.

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Quote from: Ararar on Apr 24, 2026, 03:36 PMHow many kids go to school means absolutely nothing.What means something in this case is how many of those kids are good at football. If you have a 600 enrollment and 100 are good at football it's trumps 3000 with only 50 good at football.

He thinks this is the point he's making but is using the worst "gotcha" ever (a team that's finished the year #1 in Texas four times since 2011 and is routinely a top 10 squad in a state with 1300 11-man teams) to do so.

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Quote from: Wooderson on Apr 24, 2026, 04:09 PMHe thinks this is the point he's making but is using the worst "gotcha" ever (a team that's finished the year #1 in Texas four times since 2011 and is routinely a top 10 squad in a state with 1300 11-man teams) to do so.
Logic is hard in Louisiana

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Quote from: Wooderson on Apr 24, 2026, 02:52 PMAgain, Allen is not playing a host of teams with small enrollments; all but one of the teams on their 2025 schedule had an enrollment of over 2000, with the majority of those being in excess of 3000 students. Even when you have the LARGEST ENROLLMENT POSSIBLE the advantages of that are blunted by teams with a similar (not even equal) advantage.

Allen playing any school in Texas is an enrollment mismatch no matter how hard you try to spin it.


Allen started playing football in 1939.
They won their first state championship in 2008.

Allen had a good run 2012, 2013 and 2014 led by transfer QB Kyler Murray. Go figure....had Kyler Murray not transferred to Allen they most likely would be stuck on 2 state championships

Allen's last state championship was 2017......9 years ago.
Sure, they play good football.


Anyways, is what it is

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When American Heritage-Delray went to Louisiana they had 500 kids in the school, 40 players on the team, and they put a running clock on West Monroe who had over 2,000 enrollment and 100 plus kids on the team.

The issue for West Monroe was they were from a bad football state. Enrollment didn't play a factor