Last year National Power Venice, FL lost to (7-18) #303 Riverview.

https://www.maxpreps.com/fl/sarasota/riverview-sarasota-rams/baseball/24-25/schedule/

You say that's pretty bad.
Venice swept a little three-game California series including beating National and California Power Corona last year. 

Venice is currently #2 in the nation at MaxPreps. If they were to shit the bed a game or two nobody's going to even care if they put together the resume and have the talent which obviously they must have.

Venice will play in several National tournaments this year

MaxPreps had St John Bosco #3 last year.
St John Bosco lost to (14-14) #147 Damien 3-2.

https://www.maxpreps.com/ca/la-verne/damien-spartans/baseball/24-25/schedule/

St John Bosco should have been disqualified from Top 10 consideration, right?

I didn't say anything about who beats who, I said that College National Championship is real because it's won on the field and HS is not because it's an Opinion picked by a person or computer.

In college baseball you can win a National Championship/World Series with 20 or more losses.
 
In 2008, when Fresno State won the College World Series they had a whopping 31 losses.
In 2022, Ole Miss had 23 losses and won the College World Series.

You cannot win a MNC In high school baseball with 31 losses

Why can't you people understand this?

So what?.... The point is no matter how many losses those teams had they Made the playoffs and won the playoffs and World Series and the teams that had less losses than them lost.... Their Championship was won on the field....

Had their been no playoffs and their were just rankings, the opinion polls and computers would have named a "Mythical" National Champion that had less losses then those teams in those years and would have been clearly wrong....

And No HS Baseball team with 31 losses would even qualify for their local playoffs because HS Baseball teams only play 30-35 games.... College teams play 60-70 games.... So that's just a dumb comment.... 🤣

So what?.... The point is no matter how many losses those teams had they Made the playoffs and won the playoffs and World Series and the teams that had less losses than them lost.... Their Championship was won on the field....

Had their been no playoffs and their were just rankings, the opinion polls and computers would have named a "Mythical" National Champion that had less losses then those teams in those years and would have been clearly wrong....

And No HS Baseball team with 31 losses would even qualify for their local playoffs because HS Baseball teams only play 30-35 games.... College teams play 60-70 games.... So that's just a dumb comment.... 🤣

You don't have to tell me how the college baseball playoffs work, Einstein.

You do understand there are like 35 at-large teams in the college baseball playoffs, right?
The committee decides on those teams similar to "people/computer" deciding a High School National Champion>>> resume, SOS, talent, state power, state champion and etc........ doesn't hurt to be from a power high school baseball state either.

Anyways, The real point of the exercise was rather simple, but of course you missed it!

When Fresno State won the College World Series they had 31 freakin losses....... lots of them just absolutely mind-boggling.
Like I said in an earlier post they won the games at the end when they were supposed to win > result,  crappy team wins national championship by winning 7 or 8 games at the end of the year.

You and the other idiot want to ding Catholic (Baton Rouge) for "1" bad meaningless loss just because they're from Louisiana.
Catholic was 38-2.

Is it clicking for you yet?
Try harder!

And just for the record.

High School baseball "polls" are very similar to College Baseball "polls".......a poll is a poll.

Sadly, there's just NO big tournament at the end of the year in high school.......so, there's like 6 or 7 really big national high school baseball tournaments every season and they matter.
They are not 100% of the grade, but if you win 2 or 3 of those and everything else plays out you got a good shot at a MNC.

Neither Catholic or Barbe will win a MNC this year.
Both definitely could be Top 10's though.

You don't have to tell me how the college baseball playoffs work, Einstein.

You do understand there are like 35 at-large teams in the college baseball playoffs, right?
The committee decides on those teams similar to "people/computer" deciding a High School National Champion>>> resume, SOS, talent, state power, state champion and etc........ doesn't hurt to be from a power high school baseball state either.

Anyways, The real point of the exercise was rather simple, but of course you missed it!

When Fresno State won the College World Series they had 31 freakin losses....... lots of them just absolutely mind-boggling.
Like I said in an earlier post they won the games at the end when they were supposed to win > result,  crappy team wins national championship by winning 7 or 8 games at the end of the year.

You and the other idiot want to ding Catholic (Baton Rouge) for "1" bad meaningless loss just because they're from Louisiana.
Catholic was 38-2.

Is it clicking for you yet?
Try harder!

I Didn't "Ding" anyone, I just stated that College Baseball National Championship are Real because they are played out on the field, while HS "Mythical" National Championship are not because they are decided by "Opinions" or Computer Algorithms....

But hey, go ahead and hang on to those fake Louisiana HSBB Natty's, whatever floats your boat captain.... 🤣

I Didn't "Ding" anyone, I just stated that College Baseball National Championship are Real because they are played out on the field, while HS "Mythical" National Championship are not because they are decided by "Opinions" or Computer Algorithms....

But hey, go ahead and hang on to those fake Louisiana HSBB Natty's, whatever floats your boat captain.... 🤣

I hate to break it to you, but just because a team wins the College World Series doesn't necessarily mean they were best team in the nation. Most everyone knows that.

Anyways, if high school level athletics are so opinionated and mythical it almost makes talking about them pointless and meaningless, right?

Why do you do it?

You can lose games. No one is disputing that. But losing games against JV teams should bar you from winning the title.

Catholic had by far the worst SOS of the teams under them. And all the teams under them had much better wins.

Corona had Better wins and better losses. There's no way Catholic deserved it

Got thumped by the 144th FL team. That's not being serious

I hate to break it to you, but just because a team wins the College World Series doesn't necessarily mean they were best team in the nation. Most everyone knows that.

You're right, maybe the team that wins the College World Series isn't necessarily the best team. But they will be the only team at the end of the season holding a trophy saying they were the best. And that is the ONLY that matters. The NCAA championship trophy is not mythical.

You're right, maybe the team that wins the College World Series isn't necessarily the best team. But they will be the only team at the end of the season holding a trophy saying they were the best. And that is the ONLY that matters. The NCAA championship trophy is not mythical.

Exactly!.... And not to mention, NCAA Baseball playoffs are Double elimination, not single so those "Great" teams that are 50-8 or whatever have to lose Twice in the playoffs to teams that have 20-30 losses, so it's not a Fluke it's a Real Championship that no one disputes or can lay claim to....

You want an example of this.... Last year in the JC playoffs Santa Rosa JC was Ranked #1 and was 44-1 going into a game 2 of their Super Regional against Sierra college who was 34-14.... Sierra college won the next 2 games knocking on the #1 team who finished the season 44-3... 🤣

You're right, maybe the team that wins the College World Series isn't necessarily the best team. But they will be the only team at the end of the season holding a trophy saying they were the best. And that is the ONLY that matters. The NCAA championship trophy is not mythical.

Nobody ever said you don't get a trophy for winning the College World Series.

LSU has won 2 of the last 3 College Baseball World Series, but guess what?>>>> they still lost to some very crappy teams and played crappy baseball at various points during both seasons.

LSU is currently playing very crappy baseball this year, but they could pull it together and win yet another College World Series.

None of this stuff is really the point though and most everyone knows it when it comes to high school baseball.



 

Nobody ever said you don't get a trophy for winning the College World Series.

LSU has won 2 of the last 3 College Baseball World Series, but guess what?>>>> they still lost to some very crappy teams and played crappy baseball at various points during both seasons.

LSU is currently playing very crappy baseball this year, but they could pull it together and win yet another College World Series.

None of this stuff is really the point though and most everyone knows it when it comes to high school baseball.



 

The point being made is that there is no widely-recognized postseason tournament crowning a national high school baseball champion, thus the title of "national champion" is far more subjective than if a tournament were in place. With that being what it is it's certainly open for debate if a team named national champion should have a loss to a 13-13 ball club that was starting their #4 pitcher.

It's odd that you frequent a sports message board where debate is a part of the community's fabric yet shrink and transform into a corn cob any time someone attempts to engage in a debate with you.

The point being made is that there is no widely-recognized postseason tournament crowning a national high school baseball champion, thus the title of "national champion" is far more subjective than if a tournament were in place. With that being what it is it's certainly open for debate if a team named national champion should have a loss to a 13-13 ball club that was starting their #4 pitcher.

It's odd that you frequent a sports message board where debate is a part of the community's fabric yet shrink and transform into a corn cob any time someone attempts to engage in a debate with you.

Same goes for high school football or any high school sport and what is it you want to debate about?

I'm up, but you always seem to disappear for a couple days after I bring the heat.

Exactly!.... And not to mention, NCAA Baseball playoffs are Double elimination, not single so those "Great" teams that are 50-8 or whatever have to lose Twice in the playoffs to teams that have 20-30 losses, so it's not a Fluke it's a Real Championship that no one disputes or can lay claim to....

You want an example of this.... Last year in the JC playoffs Santa Rosa JC was Ranked #1 and was 44-1 going into a game 2 of their Super Regional against Sierra college who was 34-14.... Sierra college won the next 2 games knocking on the #1 team who finished the season 44-3... 🤣

Nice fucking example 🖕. Had to use that meltdown to make your point 🤣🤣.

Same goes for high school football or any high school sport and what is it you want to debate about?

I'm up, but you always seem to disappear for a couple days after I bring the heat.

I'm still waiting for you to point out specific examples of my "dishonesty" from the Jenks thread.