San Juan Hills will be traveling to Texas this year.
San Juan Hills was a Top 20 team in California last year (Maxpreps) and are Preseason Top 20 this year in several of the Preseason polls I saw.
They are a pretty big school and would be a large Texas 6A School.
Rockwall-Heath plays in the same Texas District as Longview.
Rockwall-Heath was an average team last year, but played some teams very closely.
It's a good depth matchup.
Anyways, Rockwell-Heath returns 17 starters and might be a sleeper in that Region 2 District 10 this year.
[https://texashsfootball.com/2025-district-10-6a-season-preview/
San Juan Hills is Preseason #17 In the CIF Preseason Top 25.
Back in the olden days this game would get a little message forum play.
Not sure what days we're in nowadays.
Anyways,
https://www.si.com/high-school/california/top-25-california-high-school-football-cif-southern-section-2025-preseason-rankings-01k1vkgabxpx
California depth is not good at all. Mater Dei, SJB and Centennial warp the view of the state because they themselves are so good. But the rest of the state starts to fall off a cliff.
Hell, when the number 6 team in California played the number 6 team in Florida, the Florida team put a running clock on them.
I remember a few years ago a team from KENTUCKY beat a California team, and the California team finished higher in their state than the KENTUCKY team did in theirs!!!!!
This will be a 42-13 type game in favor of the Heath bars
San Juan Hills is a Southern Section D2 team that didn't make it past the Second round of the Playoffs last year losing by 2 TD's...
If a TX 6A team like Rockwall Heath can't beat them, then TX is in Trouble... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Aug 11, 2025, 03:34 PMSan Juan Hills is a Southern Section D2 team that didn't make it past the Second round of the Playoffs last year losing by 2 TD's...
If a TX 6A team like Rockwall Heath can't beat them, then TX is in Trouble... 🤣
RW Heath didn't even make the playoffs last year, they went 4-6 (finished 6th in a 7 team district)and were ranked 136th in Texas. San Juan hills was ranked 20th and you're here already making excuses. So much for Cali depth
Quote from: Horsefly on Aug 11, 2025, 03:56 PMQuote from: TheOC89 on Aug 11, 2025, 03:34 PMSan Juan Hills is a Southern Section D2 team that didn't make it past the Second round of the Playoffs last year losing by 2 TD's...
If a TX 6A team like Rockwall Heath can't beat them, then TX is in Trouble... 🤣
RW Heath didn't even make the playoffs last year, they went 4-6 (finished 6th in a 7 team district)and were ranked 136th in Texas. San Juan hills was ranked 20th and you're here already making excuses. So much for Cali depth
To be fair, 136 in TX is about 20 in California
Warren High won 11 games in Southern California, and made the CIF Southern Section finals losing a 3 point heartbreaker to St Bonny who finished 28th in Cali and made the state championship game losing themselves a 6 point heartbreaker to nationally ranked Folsom.
Woodford County KENTUCKY finished 57th in KENTUCKY, went 6-4 in KENTUCKY, and lost 60-14 in the first round of the KENTUCKY playoffs to a 5-7 team!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Woodford County KENTUCKY went to California and dropped FORTY points in a decisive win!!!! Warren had to score 20 in the 4th to make it close
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 11, 2025, 04:08 PMQuote from: Horsefly on Aug 11, 2025, 03:56 PMQuote from: TheOC89 on Aug 11, 2025, 03:34 PMSan Juan Hills is a Southern Section D2 team that didn't make it past the Second round of the Playoffs last year losing by 2 TD's...
If a TX 6A team like Rockwall Heath can't beat them, then TX is in Trouble... 🤣
RW Heath didn't even make the playoffs last year, they went 4-6 (finished 6th in a 7 team district)and were ranked 136th in Texas. San Juan hills was ranked 20th and you're here already making excuses. So much for Cali depth
To be fair, 136 in TX is about 20 in California
If that's true then Cali's depth sucks for a major state.
Quote from: Horsefly on Aug 11, 2025, 04:21 PMQuote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 11, 2025, 04:08 PMQuote from: Horsefly on Aug 11, 2025, 03:56 PMQuote from: TheOC89 on Aug 11, 2025, 03:34 PMSan Juan Hills is a Southern Section D2 team that didn't make it past the Second round of the Playoffs last year losing by 2 TD's...
If a TX 6A team like Rockwall Heath can't beat them, then TX is in Trouble... 🤣
RW Heath didn't even make the playoffs last year, they went 4-6 (finished 6th in a 7 team district)and were ranked 136th in Texas. San Juan hills was ranked 20th and you're here already making excuses. So much for Cali depth
To be fair, 136 in TX is about 20 in California
If that's true then Cali's depth sucks for a major state.
California gets ALLLLLLL their ink from their top teams. When it comes to the top teams, they are second to none. Realistically, the top 7 in Cali can go toe to toe with anyone's top 7. And could win 4/7 with no issue.
The issue with Cali is the depth does fall off a cliff.
A few years ago a 6-3 Florida team who missed the playoffs beat a 12-2 California team who lost in the state semi finals.
3 other TX/CA games
Cajon CA vs Permian TX
SJB CA vs Eastwood TX
Inglewood CA vs Midland TX
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Aug 12, 2025, 11:15 AMQuote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 12, 2025, 11:06 AMSJB CA vs Eastwood TX
A real nailbiter
There are about 10 to 20 games like this every year in Florida. Games like this are what give out of state matchups a bad name.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Aug 11, 2025, 03:34 PMSan Juan Hills is a Southern Section D2 team that didn't make it past the Second round of the Playoffs last year losing by 2 TD's...
If a TX 6A team like Rockwall Heath can't beat them, then TX is in Trouble... 🤣
and they still finished Top 20 in CA per the human and computer polls
This year they are Preseason Top 20 in all the polls I've seen.
Maybe the people and the computers that rank California don't know what the hell they're talking about. That's always a possibility.
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 11, 2025, 04:30 PMQuote from: Horsefly on Aug 11, 2025, 04:21 PMQuote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 11, 2025, 04:08 PMQuote from: Horsefly on Aug 11, 2025, 03:56 PMQuote from: TheOC89 on Aug 11, 2025, 03:34 PMSan Juan Hills is a Southern Section D2 team that didn't make it past the Second round of the Playoffs last year losing by 2 TD's...
If a TX 6A team like Rockwall Heath can't beat them, then TX is in Trouble... 🤣
RW Heath didn't even make the playoffs last year, they went 4-6 (finished 6th in a 7 team district)and were ranked 136th in Texas. San Juan hills was ranked 20th and you're here already making excuses. So much for Cali depth
To be fair, 136 in TX is about 20 in California
If that's true then Cali's depth sucks for a major state.
California gets ALLLLLLL their ink from their top teams. When it comes to the top teams, they are second to none. Realistically, the top 7 in Cali can go toe to toe with anyone's top 7. And could win 4/7 with no issue.
The issue with Cali is the depth does fall off a cliff.
A few years ago a 6-3 Florida team who missed the playoffs beat a 12-2 California team who lost in the state semi finals.
You must be expecting a 30 point win by Northwestern over Orange Lutheran right?
You do know a 12-3 Cali team can play in division 4 or 5 and be ranked in the 200s right? I'm curious, whose this school you speak of?
Quote from: Steeler01 on Aug 12, 2025, 12:51 PMQuote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 11, 2025, 04:30 PMQuote from: Horsefly on Aug 11, 2025, 04:21 PMQuote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 11, 2025, 04:08 PMQuote from: Horsefly on Aug 11, 2025, 03:56 PMQuote from: TheOC89 on Aug 11, 2025, 03:34 PMSan Juan Hills is a Southern Section D2 team that didn't make it past the Second round of the Playoffs last year losing by 2 TD's...
If a TX 6A team like Rockwall Heath can't beat them, then TX is in Trouble... 🤣
RW Heath didn't even make the playoffs last year, they went 4-6 (finished 6th in a 7 team district)and were ranked 136th in Texas. San Juan hills was ranked 20th and you're here already making excuses. So much for Cali depth
To be fair, 136 in TX is about 20 in California
If that's true then Cali's depth sucks for a major state.
California gets ALLLLLLL their ink from their top teams. When it comes to the top teams, they are second to none. Realistically, the top 7 in Cali can go toe to toe with anyone's top 7. And could win 4/7 with no issue.
The issue with Cali is the depth does fall off a cliff.
A few years ago a 6-3 Florida team who missed the playoffs beat a 12-2 California team who lost in the state semi finals.
You must be expecting a 30 point win by Northwestern over Orange Lutheran right?
You do know a 12-3 Cali team can play in division 4 or 5 and be ranked in the 200s right? I'm curious, whose this school you speak of?
No I got OLu. They will he top 5-7 in Cali and have good coaching. MNW lost their HC and promoted a guy who has never been near a head coaching position in his life and is an unpaid volunteer. Dade publics are raw and undisciplined and your speed won't matter if it doesn't know where to put it.
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 12, 2025, 01:14 PMQuote from: Steeler01 on Aug 12, 2025, 12:51 PMQuote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 11, 2025, 04:30 PMQuote from: Horsefly on Aug 11, 2025, 04:21 PMQuote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 11, 2025, 04:08 PMQuote from: Horsefly on Aug 11, 2025, 03:56 PMQuote from: TheOC89 on Aug 11, 2025, 03:34 PMSan Juan Hills is a Southern Section D2 team that didn't make it past the Second round of the Playoffs last year losing by 2 TD's...
If a TX 6A team like Rockwall Heath can't beat them, then TX is in Trouble... 🤣
RW Heath didn't even make the playoffs last year, they went 4-6 (finished 6th in a 7 team district)and were ranked 136th in Texas. San Juan hills was ranked 20th and you're here already making excuses. So much for Cali depth
To be fair, 136 in TX is about 20 in California
If that's true then Cali's depth sucks for a major state.
California gets ALLLLLLL their ink from their top teams. When it comes to the top teams, they are second to none. Realistically, the top 7 in Cali can go toe to toe with anyone's top 7. And could win 4/7 with no issue.
The issue with Cali is the depth does fall off a cliff.
A few years ago a 6-3 Florida team who missed the playoffs beat a 12-2 California team who lost in the state semi finals.
You must be expecting a 30 point win by Northwestern over Orange Lutheran right?
You do know a 12-3 Cali team can play in division 4 or 5 and be ranked in the 200s right? I'm curious, whose this school you speak of?
No I got OLu. They will he top 5-7 in Cali and have good coaching. MNW lost their HC and promoted a guy who has never been near a head coaching position in his life and is an unpaid volunteer. Dade publics are raw and undisciplined and your speed won't matter if it doesn't know where to put it.
Northwestern is a top 10 Florida school.
Tough call. They have no head coach. I'm my opinion, a good coach is vital at the high school level. I've seen less talented teams run circles around more talented ones when the coaching was at such a disparity.
Look for a lot of confusion, delay of games, holding calls, pass interference, finger pointing and special teams blunders that will put OLu in prime position to capitalize on their mistakes.
OLu is a top Cali team. They are not part of that fall-off-a-cliff-depth.
Northwestern is a top 10 Florida school.
I'm not so sure about this. They got the biggest break in football history by their only competition getting banned from the playoffs.
They could've easily been a second or third round loser and finished 8-4 or 9-4. Maybe top 15. Maybe.
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 12, 2025, 02:32 PMTough call. They have no head coach. I'm my opinion, a good coach is vital at the high school level. I've seen less talented teams run circles around more talented ones when the coaching was at such a disparity.
Look for a lot of confusion, delay of games, holding calls, pass interference, finger pointing and special teams blunders that will put OLu in prime position to capitalize on their mistakes.
That's always been Central and Northwestern
So this Orange County Poll has San Juan Hills #6 in Orange County right behind Servite.
Orange County has a population of 3.2 million.
Interesting, San Juan Hills is getting some respect.
https://www.ocregister.com/2025/08/15/orange-county-football-preview-mater-dei-is-no-1-in-preseason-top-25/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17556082428234&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ocregister.com%2F2025%2F08%2F15%2Forange-county-football-preview-mater-dei-is-no-1-in-preseason-top-25%2F
Heath Bars win no issue
Quote from: Redzone on Aug 19, 2025, 06:02 AMSo this Orange County Poll has San Juan Hills #6 in Orange County right behind Servite.
Orange County has a population of 3.2 million.
Interesting, San Juan Hills is getting some respect.
https://www.ocregister.com/2025/08/15/orange-county-football-preview-mater-dei-is-no-1-in-preseason-top-25/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17556082428234&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ocregister.com%2F2025%2F08%2F15%2Forange-county-football-preview-mater-dei-is-no-1-in-preseason-top-25%2F
They play Chaparal this week.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Aug 19, 2025, 10:20 AMQuote from: Redzone on Aug 19, 2025, 06:02 AMSo this Orange County Poll has San Juan Hills #6 in Orange County right behind Servite.
Orange County has a population of 3.2 million.
Interesting, San Juan Hills is getting some respect.
https://www.ocregister.com/2025/08/15/orange-county-football-preview-mater-dei-is-no-1-in-preseason-top-25/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17556082428234&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ocregister.com%2F2025%2F08%2F15%2Forange-county-football-preview-mater-dei-is-no-1-in-preseason-top-25%2F
They play Chaparal this week.
MaxPreps has Chaparral Preseason #122 Nationally and #18 CA. ..... that's pretty lofty as well
San Juan Hills hasn't played Chaparral in the MaxPreps era.
These teams can't be that bad.
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 12, 2025, 11:06 AM3 other TX/CA games
Cajon CA vs Permian TX - Yes (Putting my faith on Permian's RB)
SJB CA vs Eastwood TX - NO!
Inglewood CA vs Midland TX - No.
Texas goes 1-2 in these unless the Little Southwest has improved DRASTICALLY (Midland is still not on Midland "Legacy" or Permian's level).
Jayden Daniels prepped at Cajon.
Note:
Midland, Midland Lee and Permian are all in same 6A District.
Back in the day that used to be the toughest District in Texas. That's where Friday Night Lights originated.
That Texas District plays the most OOS teams this year.
Midland Lee vs Ruston, La
Permian vs Cajon, CA
Midland vs Inglewood, CA
That Midland Lee non-district schedule is brutal again.
Allen, Trinity, Lake Travis and Ruston
It would be nice if other Texas teams scheduled non-conference games like Midland Lee win or lose.
Duncanville can only schedule 8 games this year? Give me a break with that.
Inglewood was 10-1 last year.......was thumped by Trinity League member Santa Margaritaville in the playoffs.
I just don't know about these CA teams truthfully. Just like the team John Curtis is traveling to California to play Cathedral (Los Angeles)..... they were 10-1 last year also.
10-1 is 10-1.
It's like these CA teams might not be state powerhouses, but there's obviously worse teams in California than San Juan Hills, Cajon, Inglewood and Cathedral.
Just my thoughts
Inglewood has some athletes but zero kicking game.Cant make an extra point bad
San Juan Hills beat a good Chaparral team last night 38-33.
Big win for the Stallions.
This Southern Section Poll has Cathedral (Los Angeles) #10 and San Juan Hills #14 in CA.
I don't make it up, just report it.
Either way. Looking like these might be some interesting OOS games
#10 Cathedral vs John Curtis, La
#14 San Juan Hills vs Rockwall-Heath, TX
👇Poll
https://www.si.com/high-school/california/top-25-california-high-school-football-cif-southern-section-rankings-8-24-25-01k3e9r36r1z
Quote from: Redzone on Aug 26, 2025, 02:23 AMThis Southern Section Poll has Cathedral (Los Angeles) #10 and San Juan Hills #14 in CA.
I don't make it up, just report it.
Either way. Looking like these might be some interesting OOS games
#10 Cathedral vs John Curtis, La
#14 San Juan Hills vs Rockwall-Heath, TX
👇Poll
https://www.si.com/high-school/california/top-25-california-high-school-football-cif-southern-section-rankings-8-24-25-01k3e9r36r1z
What's JCC ranking in Louisiana?
Most all the preseason polls I've seen from Louisiana have John Curtis in the 7-10 range, but that's every year.
John Curtis was 7-6 last year. I don't see Curtis losing 6 games this year though. Last year was their worst season since the 1970s.
I personally have Curtis #4 in the NOLA Catholic League behind Edna Karr, St Augustine, and Archbishop Rummel.
Quote from: Redzone on Aug 26, 2025, 09:45 PMMost all the preseason polls I've seen from Louisiana have John Curtis in the 7-10 range, but that's every year.
John Curtis was 7-6 last year. I don't see Curtis losing 6 games this year though. Last year was their worst season since the 1970s.
I personally have Curtis #4 in the NOLA Catholic League behind Edna Karr, St Augustine, and Archbishop Rummel.
I don't see how this should be a good game Cathedral isn't in the top 50 in California
https://www.on3.com/high-school/rankings/football/california/
On the other hand San Juan Hills snuck into the top 25
I guess it's just whatever poll you want to use.
This Top 25 California poll has Cathedral (Los Angeles) #14 and San Juan Hills #19.
https://www.si.com/high-school/california/high-school-on-si-california-high-school-football-top-25-state-rankings-8-25-2025-01k3hjpb8trf
On3 uses Massey and if you want to use Massey then you have to use their national rankings also which are a complete joke right now. No one believes Bixby, Oklahoma's #11 in the nation and etc.
I think it's going to be a good game personally. JT Curtis is getting old and John Curtis ain't what they used to be lately. They sre still physical and run the veer though.
JT Curtis may be the oldest head coach in the nation.
In 2 years he'll be 80.
He's been coaching almost 60 years and John Curtis doesn't have 60 plays in their playbook.. 🤭😭
Quote from: Ararar on Aug 27, 2025, 07:04 AMQuote from: Redzone on Aug 26, 2025, 09:45 PMMost all the preseason polls I've seen from Louisiana have John Curtis in the 7-10 range, but that's every year.
John Curtis was 7-6 last year. I don't see Curtis losing 6 games this year though. Last year was their worst season since the 1970s.
I personally have Curtis #4 in the NOLA Catholic League behind Edna Karr, St Augustine, and Archbishop Rummel.
I don't see how this should be a good game Cathedral isn't in the top 50 in California
https://www.on3.com/high-school/rankings/football/california/
On the other hand San Juan Hills snuck into the top 25
it's to early in the season to know where these teams really rank. Especially for Cathedral whose schedule is awful.
MaxPreps has Chaminade #12 in CA.
Cathedral (Los Angeles) crushed Chaminade last year.
Servite also beat Chaminade. Not as bad though.
👇scores below
Chaminade wasn't very good last year evidently.
Cathedral plays Chaminade again this year. Who wins?
Chaminade beat Oaks Christian last week
Quote from: Redzone on Aug 27, 2025, 10:32 AMMaxPreps has Chaminade #12 in CA.
Cathedral (Los Angeles) crushed Chaminade last year.
Servite also beat Chaminade. Not as bad though.
👇scores below
Chaminade wasn't very good last year evidently.
Cathedral plays Chaminade again this year. Who wins?
Chaminade beat Oaks Christian last week
We'll see how good Oaks is this year. It would've been nice to see Cathedral play Sierra Canyon to gauge them.
Quote from: Redzone on Aug 27, 2025, 07:44 AMI guess it's just whatever poll you want to use.
This Top 25 California poll has Cathedral (Los Angeles) #14 and San Juan Hills #19.
https://www.si.com/high-school/california/high-school-on-si-california-high-school-football-top-25-state-rankings-8-25-2025-01k3hjpb8trf
On3 uses Massey and if you want to use Massey then you have to use their national rankings also which are a complete joke right now. No one believes Bixby, Oklahoma's #11 in the nation and etc.
I think it's going to be a good game personally. JT Curtis is getting old and John Curtis ain't what they used to be lately. They sre still physical and run the veer though.
Yeah you have one poll that's has them 10 in section and yet another that has them 14 in state.Polls can't be trusted this early
Cathedral just got blown out by someone called Beaumont 52-31
Quote from: Ararar on Aug 29, 2025, 07:05 PMCathedral just got blown out by someone called Beaumont 52-31
A desert area small school.
That is a huge win for Rockwell-Heath.
San Juan Hills/Rockwell Heath will be interesting.
Quote from: Ararar on Aug 29, 2025, 07:05 PMCathedral just got blown out by someone called Beaumont 52-31
That certainly takes some shine off John Curtis traveling 2000 miles to play a football game.
Win or lose John Curtis won't be scoring 51 points though.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Aug 29, 2025, 07:12 PMQuote from: Ararar on Aug 29, 2025, 07:05 PMCathedral just got blown out by someone called Beaumont 52-31
A desert area small school.
Beaumont has a student enrollment of almost 3,500 which would be a very large Texas 6A School.
The population of Beaumont is 60,000 and they are not a desert town.
Quote from: Redzone on Aug 30, 2025, 05:26 AMQuote from: Steeler01 on Aug 29, 2025, 07:12 PMQuote from: Ararar on Aug 29, 2025, 07:05 PMCathedral just got blown out by someone called Beaumont 52-31
A desert area small school.
Beaumont has a student enrollment of almost 3,500 which would be a very large Texas 6A School.
The population of Beaumont is 60,000 and they are not a desert town.
Beaumont covers 30.1 miles and only has 59k people(boom recently). Beaumont is very much a desert town. It's on the way to palm springs next to the Morongo Casino. Most of Beaumont is just empty land.
Google must be terribly wrong then.
But I know just because you have access to the desert doesn't make you a desert city Beaumont also has access to the mountains, but they're not really a mountain city either. They're kind of strategically located and it sounds like some place we might want to visit one day when we start traveling the world.
Beaumont French translation: beautiful mountain.
steeler01 description of Beaumont Senior High located in Beaumont California. 😭🤭😭
"A desert area small school"
Quote from: Redzone on Aug 30, 2025, 07:09 AMGoogle must be terribly wrong then.
But I know just because you have access to the desert doesn't make you a desert city Beaumont also has access to the mountains, but they're not really a mountain city either. They're kind of strategically located and it sounds like some place we might want to visit one day when we start traveling the world.
Beaumont French translation: beautiful mountain.
steeler01 description of Beaumont Senior High located in Beaumont California. 😭🤭😭
"A desert area small school"
To be fair 59 thousand is like a top ten population in Louisiana while in California it's not even top 150.Just our perspective
Curtis continuing the tradition of scheduling bad teams. Cathedral got half a hundred put on them by a tumbleweed school in the middle of nowhere. Jeez.
if you wanna know who is not gonna be playing good football this year, just check John Curtis non league games
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 30, 2025, 12:57 PMCurtis continuing the tradition of scheduling bad teams. Cathedral got half a hundred put on them by a tumbleweed school in the middle of nowhere. Jeez.
if you wanna know who is not gonna be playing good football this year, just check John Curtis non league games
52 to 24 before a garbage TD by Cathedral.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Aug 30, 2025, 02:02 PMQuote from: Nolebull813 on Aug 30, 2025, 12:57 PMCurtis continuing the tradition of scheduling bad teams. Cathedral got half a hundred put on them by a tumbleweed school in the middle of nowhere. Jeez.
if you wanna know who is not gonna be playing good football this year, just check John Curtis non league games
52 to 24 before a garbage TD by Cathedral.
red Flag knows Louisiana is irrelevant. You wouldn't even know they played football. If he didn't cancer up the boards with Louisiana drivel you could go the whole season without seeing it. John "lift up your Skirtus should be embarrassed. If they don't win by at least 28 like Tumbleweed High did then he should be banned
Beaumont
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 01, 2025, 09:24 PMBeaumont
Watch out with those facts. By the time this game starts you are gonna know the entire history of Beaumont. How settlers moved West in the 1700's and one guy had a tough sounding name. Artillery Jones I think it was.
That's why Curtis playing Cathedral isn't an embarrassment for Curtis. Lol.
You're gonna think Red Flag is the mayor of Beaumont campaigning to host the Olympics