That's pretty cool.
https://x.com/NOLAnews/status/2097316584045846870?s=20
Thursday night game in NOLA.
Santa Fe Christian is 3-0 and #7 in San Diego.
Newman is 1-0 and entered the Louisiana 2A rankings this week at #10. Newman surprised me last week getting the win in Texas.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 09:20 AMThat's pretty cool.
https://x.com/NOLAnews/status/2097316584045846870?s=20
Thursday night game in NOLA.
Santa Fe Christian is 3-0 and #7 in San Diego.
Newman is 1-0 and entered the Louisiana 2A rankings this week at #10. Newman surprised me last week getting the win in Texas.
What is Newman ranked in NOLA?
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 09:25 AMWhat is Newman ranked in NOLA?
13th. 28th in state
3 in Louisiana D3 select
Let the record reflect that Red Flag was "surprised" the 13th New Orleans team and 28th overall state ranked team won by 1 point against some team so bad that they can't even be apart of TAPPS, which is the developmental league for real football in Texas. Lol
SMDH
California doesn't have Classes so it's hard to give a real Class ranking on Santa Fe Christian.
I would imagine they are one of the top small schools in California this year.
Santa Fe Christian clubbed Helix and Helix seems to be rolling now.
Santa Fe Christian would be a large 2A in Louisiana, maybe even a small 3A..
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 09:25 AMWhat is Newman ranked in NOLA?
Hard to say really #20-#30 range.
Maxpreps has Newman #13, but there''s just no way in hell Newman is going to beat all those 5A and 4A schools in Metro NOLA. Forget about it!
It's a very silly and not very realistic ranking.
Anyways, might be a fun game. I may ride out there and watch it. Newman's stadium is pretty small with only stands on the home side (but it's nice), has a capacity of over 2,000. They may squeeze another 500 or more people standing around. Everybody want to see Drew Brees and his boys!
Newman will make the trip to California next year
You can actually walk out of one of the buildings on campus at Newman right onto the football field.
Newman has a very nice Field House on the south end zone.
Everything is tight and compact there.
Pictures aside.
If Santa Fe Christian is good as advertised they shouldn't have any problems with Newman. Santa Fe Christian is getting a lot of ink in San Diego that much is true.
If Santa Fe Christian wins, they might be able to crack the top 100 in California
SMH
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 09:20 AMThat's pretty cool.
https://x.com/NOLAnews/status/2097316584045846870?s=20
Thursday night game in NOLA.
Santa Fe Christian is 3-0 and #7 in San Diego.
Newman is 1-0 and entered the Louisiana 2A rankings this week at #10. Newman surprised me last week getting the win in Texas.
Santa Fe Christian's QB is 6-4 195 lbs.
Going to Cornell.
Looks like he can sling it pretty good.
https://x.com/daxlabrum17/status/2096690144632066418?s=20
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Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 08, 2026, 10:39 AMIf Santa Fe Christian wins, they might be able to crack the top 100 in California
SMH
This is gonna test the Louisiana depth
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 12:10 PMThis is gonna test the Louisiana depth
Agreed. Carver Collegiate from New Orleans is undefeated and playing the 103rd ranked FL team. Just got the doors blown off by Godby.
So they got FL# 103 and CA# 107 on tap.
May the victor go the spoils!
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 12:10 PMThis is gonna test the Louisiana depth
Right!
Santa Fe Christian is better than 92% of California if you use MaxPreps.
California obviously has very little depth.
On a serious note.
If Santa Fe Christian wins out in California which they probably will (99.9% chance) what Division in the playoffs do they go to and what teams might they play?
That's something I'd like to know because I don't have a clue.
Carver (NOLA) has entered my Santa Fe Christian/Newman thread.
The Internet is just really fucked by freaks. Wherever you go, doesn't matter. Football forums, Twitter, Facebook, etc.. .
Nothing but freaks!
Note: Carver is currently #147 in Louisiana
Anyways, if anyone knows the answer to my question lay it on me.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 01:15 PMRight!
Santa Fe Christian is better than 92% of California if you use MaxPreps.
California obviously has very little depth.
What percentage is Newman better than in Louisiana?
20 years ago you bragged about Bogalusa beating Bonita Vista. Which according to you then, proved Cali was weak.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 01:15 PMRight!
Santa Fe Christian is better than 92% of California if you use MaxPreps.
California obviously has very little depth.
Funny. Newman being 28 out of 350 teams puts them in the 8th percentile, meaning they are better than 92 percent of the state.
This game is as even as it gets!!
@Steeler01
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 08, 2026, 01:53 PMFunny. Newman being 28 out of 350 teams puts them in the 8th percentile, meaning they are better than 92 percent of the state.
This game is as even as it gets!!
@Steeler01
I want him to use the same statistics he's using for Cali but he won't
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 01:52 PMWhat percentage is Newman better than in Louisiana?
20 years ago you bragged about Bogalusa beating Bonita Vista. Which according to you then, proved Cali was weak.
Yeah!
.. 26 kids traveling to California after Hurricane Katrina to play a football game and go to the zoo did not work out very well for the California team.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 01:56 PMYeah!
.. 26 kids traveling to California after Hurricane Katrina to play a football game and go to the zoo did not work out very well for the California team.
I think skip is still upset about it
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 01:54 PMI want him to use the same statistics he's using for Cali but he won't
These 2 teams are in the exact same percentile of their respective states. This game should go down to the wire. It's the perfect depth check game for both states.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 01:56 PMYeah!
.. 26 kids traveling to California after Hurricane Katrina to play a football game and go to the zoo did not work out very well for the California team.
A year later to play a garbage team.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 01:58 PMI think skip is still upset about it
It shows your hypocrisy
Santa Fe Christian beat Helix 38-6.
Helix has a student enrollment of 2700 students.
That's your deprh check right there.
We have two top 20 metro schools going at it. Will NOLA come thru or not. All I've heard are excuses why they'll lose.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 02:02 PMSanta Fe Christian beat Helix 38-6.
Helix has a student enrollment of 2700 students.
That's your deprh check right there.
Student enrollment means nada, signed John Curtis football.
Curtis 400 kids between 9-12 grade
ECA when they dominated Louisiana 200 kids
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:03 PMStudent enrollment means nada, signed John Curtis football
You are talking to someone who doesn't know shit about football. He honestly believes the more student enrollment you have in a school, the better the football team.
It's crazy someone can be that open about their incompetence
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:06 PMYou are talking to someone who doesn't know shit about football. He honestly believes the more student enrollment you have in a school, the better the football team.
It's crazy someone can be that open about their incompetence
His own state has been dominated by low enrollment teams
I have no problem whatsoever saying the Giant Charter School in San Diego named Helix sucks at football. There's only four or five decent teams in San Diego. I guess Santa Fe Christian might be one of them this year
What's the big deal?
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:09 PMHis own state has been dominated by low enrollment teams
ECA large division Champs
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High school enrollment 250
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:19 PMECA large division Champs
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High school enrollment 250
Not sure what that has to do with Helix, but thanks skip!
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 02:27 PMNot sure what that has to do with Helix, but thanks skip!
You claimed enrollment numbers mattered. Nothing else
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:19 PMECA large division Champs
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High school enrollment 250
I think he doesn't want to admit that they only dominated Lousiana, but got punked around like little bitches out of state. The large teams in Louisiana couldn't do shit, and Evangel thought that was the case everywhere, but check these 6 losses they had in 2004 and 2005 alone when they won the Louisiana state championships.
2004
Losses to Springdale,Ark, Longview TX and Abilene TX
2005
Losses to Springdale Ark, Texas High and Longview TX
And in 2005, they lost 35-7, 45-10 and 52-14 to those OOS teams!!!
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:31 PMI think he doesn't want to admit that they only dominated Lousiana, but got punked around like little bitches out of state. The large teams in Louisiana couldn't do shit, and Evangel thought that was the case everywhere, but check these 6 losses they had in 2004 and 2005 alone when they won the Louisiana state championships.
2004
Losses to Springdale,Ark, Longview TX and Abilene TX
2005
Losses to Springdale Ark, Texas High and Longview TX
And in 2005, they lost 35-7, 45-10 and 52-14 to those OOS teams!!!
I watched all of those games. Cajun kept telling us after those beatdowns they weren't the best team in the state.
Evangel thought since they were punking large class 5A teams in Louisiana like it wasn't shit that they could do it out of the state!'
Wrong!!! Lol.
Probably why Red Flag thinks other states high enrollment means quality football.
SMDH
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:32 PMI watched all of those games. Cajun kept telling us after those beatdowns they weren't the best team in the state.
They were the best team in the state 2004-2006 all 3 years.
Add 2006 when they only lost 2 games to you guessed it. Out of state teams. Won state but got dog walked by Lufkin and Southlake Carroll.
SMH
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:29 PMYou claimed enrollment numbers mattered. Nothing else
What I said was Santa Fe Christian clubbed Helix who has an enrollment of 2,700
That's your California depth..... or if you prefer your San Diego depth.
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:34 PMThey were the best team in the state 2004-2006 all 3 years.
Add 2006 when they only lost 2 games to you guessed it. Out of state teams. Won state but got dog walked by Lufkin and Southlake Carroll.
SMH
The year the LHSAA moved them down to a low division to stop their states dominance at the highest level.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 02:36 PMWhat I said was Santa Fe Christian clubbed Helix who has an enrollment of 2,700
That's your California depth..... or if you prefer your San Diego depth.
You cleared it up though, skip.
Helix is crap!
All good
Wonder if Newman could beat Helix?
West Monroe is the biggest high school in Louisiana. And when 3A American Heritage-Delray went over there (3A out of 8A), they brought 40 players from a high school of 500 enrollment, and were beating West Monroe so bad they were kneeling the ball in the red zone up 31-7 and couldn't even run out the clock! They turned the ball over on downs on a QB kneel!!!!
Win or lose Drew Brees knows all the best places to eat in NOLA.......
The San Diego boys going to eat BIG for as long as they're in town.
Hope they enjoy the trip.
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:39 PMWest Monroe is the biggest high school in Louisiana. And when 3A American Heritage-Delray went over there (3A out of 8A), they brought 40 players from a high school of 500 enrollment, and were beating West Monroe so bad they were kneeling the ball in the red zone up 31-7 and couldn't even run out the clock! They turned the ball over on downs on a QB kneel!!!!
That's right. His own beliefs work against his state and then he just acts like it doesn't apply and moves on. Claiming he clubbed you.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:49 PMThat's right. His own beliefs work against his state and then he just acts like it doesn't apply and moves on. Claiming he clubbed you.
I've been trying to tell anyone that will listen that he is a hypocritical pos and every thing he posts about other teams and states directly contradicts things happening daily in Louisiana.
You are arguing with a special needs person. A child begging for attention that he only knows how to spew negative attention. So he just slings shit at the wall.
That's why I call him out relentlessly
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:49 PMThat's right. His own beliefs work against his state and then he just acts like it doesn't apply and moves on. Claiming he clubbed you.
I have no idea what the f*** you people are talking about.
2A Calvary Baptist put 40 on West Monroe that year. That was the year West Monroe's legendary head coach had his second heart attack.
Anyways, back to the topic of the thread.
If 2A Calvary Baptist (Shreveport) was playing Santa Fe Christian the San Diego boys would be going home black and blue.
But, you got Newman!
Time for me to bow out of my own thread.
The SHIT I got to put up with.
Have at it gaybob813 and skip. The thread is officially yours.
Maybe I'll start a different one closer to game time if I can find a live stream.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 02:55 PMTime for me to bow out of my own thread.
The SHIT I got to put up with.
Have at it gaybob813 and skip. The thread is officially yours.
Maybe I'll start a different one closer to game time if I can find a live stream.
Why would you start a thread about this game anyways? Can't you just make one Louisiana thread and keep all the braindead bullshit in one that way you don't spam the board with never ending nonsense
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 02:54 PMI have no idea what the f*** you people are talking about.
2A Calvary Baptist put 40 on West Monroe that year. That was the year West Monroe's legendary head coach had his second heart attack.
Anyways, back to the topic of the thread.
If 2A Calvary Baptist (Shreveport) was playing Santa Fe Christian the San Diego boys would be going home black and blue.
But, you got Newman!
Haha self own. 2A Calvary beat large class West Monroe as well. Lol
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 02:54 PMI have no idea what the f*** you people are talking about.
2A Calvary Baptist put 40 on West Monroe that year. That was the year West Monroe's legendary head coach had his second heart attack.
Anyways, back to the topic of the thread.
If 2A Calvary Baptist (Shreveport) was playing Santa Fe Christian the San Diego boys would be going home black and blue.
But, you got Newman!
If Santa Margarita, Sierra Canyon, Centennial, or Bosco were playing any team in Louisiana, the Louisiana teams would be lucky to stay within 20 points.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 08, 2026, 01:31 PMOn a serious note.
If Santa Fe Christian wins out in California which they probably will (99.9% chance) what Division in the playoffs do they go to and what teams might they play?
That's something I'd like to know because I don't have a clue.
Seriously the lowest division. If they played any real teams in Cali it would get ugly.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Sep 08, 2026, 07:01 PMSeriously the lowest division. If they played any real teams in Cali it would get ugly.
Yes, The will be Max SDD1 and that will be because they win D2 last year.... Assuming they are Undefeated....
The Open in SD will be between LaCosta Canyon, Carlsbad, SDCC and Mission Hills... Mission Hills has the ex MD QB Ferreira, who is having a good year there.... The cool thing is that only SDCC is not in their league so the other 3 will play each other... SDCC will be the most battle tested though, with games against OLU, Chandler AZ and DLS easily the toughest Schedule in SD....
Last year the Winner of Santa Fe Christian's Playoff Division finished 50 (rounded) spots higher than John Curtis at MaxPreps. 😮
I can say so much, but I'll just leave it at that.
MaxPreps is the Bible!.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 09, 2026, 06:59 AMLast year the Winner of Santa Fe Christian's Playoff Division finished 50 (rounded) spots higher than John Curtis at MaxPreps. 😮
I can say so much, but I'll just leave it at that.
MaxPreps is the Bible!.
Nobody Cares about Maxpreps rankings or takes them seriously.... Except for people who know nothing about HSFB....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 09, 2026, 08:40 PMNobody Cares about Maxpreps rankings or takes them seriously.... Except for people who know nothing about HSFB....
You are wrong, but I agree with you.
Some people on this forum take MaxPreps more seriously than they do the Bible. That's a fact.
I use it from time to time, but I think I'm really the only one that's ever posted a state or city poll on this fourm.
I'm all for using State polls and City polls if available and they are normally available.
Those polls don't fit the moron's agenda's though.
Red Flag will use maxpreps whenever it fits his narrative but as soon as it doesn't, he tries to bash it. He will cite it every chance he gets.
In regards to this game, this is the 13th ranked New Orleans team against the 14th ranked San Diego team.
Both teams are affluent private schools with the exact same amount of enrollment in grades 9-12. They are both in the 8th percentile of their respective states, meaning they are better than 92 percent of their state.
This game is as even as it gets. Newman gets this game at home so they will have the refs on their side.
This game should go down to the wire. Every metric says so. If one of these teams get blown out, it will not look good for the depth of that state.
nm
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 09, 2026, 08:40 PMNobody Cares about Maxpreps rankings or takes them seriously.... Except for people who know nothing about HSFB....
I rest my case..
BUT, I'm going to do my very best to ignore that buffoon best I can.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 05:27 AMYou are wrong, but I agree with you.
Some people on this forum take MaxPreps more seriously than they do the Bible. That's a fact.
I use it from time to time, but I think I'm really the only one that's ever posted a state or city poll on this fourm.
I'm all for using State polls and City polls if available and they are normally available.
Those polls don't fit the moron's agenda's though.
What state and city polls are differing significantly from Maxpreps, specifically as things appear at the end of a given season?
People "care" about Maxpreps in the sense that it's a near-universal hub for stats, schedules, rosters, and over 20 years worth of historical information on those items. That does lend a degree of utility to the data their computers come up with (be it strength ratings or overall team rankings), and those numbers are as good (and as bad) as any other of the major, national "polls". The primary shortcoming for Maxpreps is they hide how they get to these numbers by claiming their formulas are "proprietary" in nature, thus leaving a lot of guesswork as to which fingers they're holding on the scales. Even with that being what it is, Maxpreps has an ass load of data readily available that can be used to affirm or discredit their final result (if they were to name an undefeated team from New Hampshire national champs at the end of the year it wouldn't be difficult to reverse engineer how they got there).
Maxpreps rankings are just as flawed as any other system but have the benefit of housing so much information that it's very easy to be able to look at previous seasons and have an educated guess as to how their methodology has improved.
Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 07:47 AMWhat state and city polls are differing significantly from Maxpreps, specifically as things appear at the end of a given season?
People "care" about Maxpreps in the sense that it's a near-universal hub for stats, schedules, rosters, and over 20 years worth of historical information on those items. That does lend a degree of utility to the data their computers come up with (be it strength ratings or overall team rankings), and those numbers are as good (and as bad) as any other of the major, national "polls". The primary shortcoming for Maxpreps is they hide how they get to these numbers by claiming their formulas are "proprietary" in nature, thus leaving a lot of guesswork as to which fingers they're holding on the scales. Even with that being what it is, Maxpreps has an ass load of data readily available that can be used to affirm or discredit their final result (if they were to name an undefeated team from New Hampshire national champs at the end of the year it wouldn't be difficult to reverse engineer how they got there).
Maxpreps rankings are just as flawed as any other system but have the benefit of housing so much information that it's very easy to be able to look at previous seasons and have an educated guess as to how their methodology has improved.
MaxPreps does have good information especially since Calpreps went subscription on us. But their rankings are terrible.
How many examples do you need or want? I can go all day.
Here's a quick one.
MaxPreps has Celina #20 in TX.
They're not even currently ranked in the 5A polls, Dave Campbell's anyways ....... they are considered the gold standard in Texas.
Let me know if you want or need more
Anyways, back to Santa Fe Christian/Newman.
Dave Campbell has St John's (Houston) #10 this week (dropped) in their Private High School poll which includes ALL the Private High Schools in Texas. That was a pretty good win for Newman. Unexpected in my head.
That's the only reason I think Newman might be a little competitive tonight.
Dave Campbell's Polls 👇
https://www.expressnews.com/sports/article/dave-campbell-s-texas-football-high-school-22420944.php
Holy smokes. This clown just said beating the 10th ranked private school in a state that is dominated by 99 percent publics with the 13th ranked from New Orleans was good win.
How shitty do you have to view Lousiana? That's crazy. Only Red Flag could self own so hard.
It would be like bragging about beating the 10th ranked MAIS teams.
Clown world he lives in
For all the non buffoons. I'll say it just one last time.
Newman is NOT #13 in (NOLA)- complete bullshit!
Believe it, or don't believe it.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 08:09 AMMaxPreps does have good information especially since Calpreps went subscription on us. But their rankings are terrible.
How many examples do you need or want? I can go all day.
Here's a quick one.
MaxPreps has Celina #20 in TX.
They're not even currently ranked in the 5A polls, Dave Campbell's anyways ....... they are considered the gold standard in Texas.
Let me know if you want or need more
Anyways, back to Santa Fe Christian/Newman.
Dave Campbell has St John's (Houston) #10 this week (dropped) in their Private High School poll which includes ALL the Private High Schools in Texas. That was a pretty good win for Newman. Unexpected in my head.
That's the only reason I think Newman might be a little competitive tonight.
Dave Campbell's Polls 👇
https://www.expressnews.com/sports/article/dave-campbell-s-texas-football-high-school-22420944.php
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 08:09 AMMaxPreps does have good information especially since Calpreps went subscription on us. But their rankings are terrible.
How many examples do you need or want? I can go all day.
Here's a quick one.
MaxPreps has Celina #20 in TX.
They're not even currently ranked in the 5A polls, Dave Campbell's anyways ....... they are considered the gold standard in Texas.
Let me know if you want or need more
Anyways, back to Santa Fe Christian/Newman.
Dave Campbell has St John's (Houston) #10 this week (dropped) in their Private High School poll which includes ALL the Private High Schools in Texas. That was a pretty good win for Newman. Unexpected in my head.
That's the only reason I think Newman might be a little competitive tonight.
Dave Campbell's Polls 👇
https://www.expressnews.com/sports/article/dave-campbell-s-texas-football-high-school-22420944.php
Last year the #1 Private School in Texas finished #23 in Texas per Maxpreps.........
I have no idea how this year is going to play out.
https://www.maxpreps.com/tx/dallas/parish-episcopal-panthers/football/25-26/schedule/
Is what it is, I guess
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 08:25 AMFor all the non buffoons. I'll say it just one last time.
Newman is NOT #13 in (NOLA)- complete bullshit!
Believe it, or don't believe it.
Yeah right. Easton, Mandeville, Vanderbilt, Terrebonne, Thibodeaux etc etc. these teams are garbage!!!
Imagine these teams playing good OOS teams. Jeez. You thought top 5 Catholic getting 60 plus in 3 quarters put on them was bad.
SMDH
Anyway's, when Drew Brees lived in NOLA his kids went to Newman.
This is just a cool OOS game!
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 09:12 AMAnyway's, when Drew Brees lived in NOLA his kids went to Newman.
This is just a cool OOS game!
It is cool. Not often can you get 2 teams that are only one ranking apart in their metro area.
13th New Orleans vs 14th San Diego.
Gonna be a good one!!!!
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 08:09 AMMaxPreps does have good information especially since Calpreps went subscription on us. But their rankings are terrible.
How many examples do you need or want? I can go all day.
Here's a quick one.
MaxPreps has Celina #20 in TX.
They're not even currently ranked in the 5A polls, Dave Campbell's anyways ....... they are considered the gold standard in Texas.
Let me know if you want or need more
Anyways, back to Santa Fe Christian/Newman.
Dave Campbell has St John's (Houston) #10 this week (dropped) in their Private High School poll which includes ALL the Private High Schools in Texas. That was a pretty good win for Newman. Unexpected in my head.
That's the only reason I think Newman might be a little competitive tonight.
Dave Campbell's Polls 👇
https://www.expressnews.com/sports/article/dave-campbell-s-texas-football-high-school-22420944.php
I clearly asked for end of season rankings, not some mid-season ranking that means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. Comparing a partial data set to a person/group of people's subjective opinion is not an apples-to-apples discussion.
Aside from yourself, who has ever claimed that Dave Campbell's rankings are the "gold standard" in Texas? Possessing the ability to publish a comprehensive preview magazine for over 50 years and a dynamic, weekly ranking across 7-8 alignment conferences are vastly different skill sets; we had a guy out here that made a Dave Campbell-esque preview mag for 25+ years and his preseason rankings were frequently out in left field (he'd rank a 4-6 team with 15 starters back over a team that beat them 42-0 but only had three starters back), and the one Dave Campbell mag I have in my library (2008) gets pretty loopy in spots as well (i.e. Allen ranked 14th in 5A preseason just ahead of a 15-1 campaign).
Local rankings are by and large a mixed bag; Sondheimer with the LA Times has been a walking punchline for years among SoCal fans, and the so-called "voice of authority" on the Arizona high school ranks is a guy that was previously the primary beat writer for the Diamondbacks, was very publicly caught plagiarizing in that role, and was demoted to the preps beat in lieu of termination. These "experts" are almost always guys whose first focus is on journalism in general (they'd have no issue writing about politics or movies if that was the opportunity in front of them), sports second (the paper of record out here used the prep beat as a farm system to the pro and college beats - do well writing about the inspiring story of a double-amputee pitcher and you might get full-access to the Suns/Cardinals/Diamondbacks locker room), and high school sports last. You're championing one obviously-flawed methodology because you agree with the end result of it over another obviously-flawed methodology.
Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 10:13 AMI clearly asked for end of season rankings, not some mid-season ranking that means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. Comparing a partial data set to a person/group of people's subjective opinion is not an apples-to-apples discussion.
Aside from yourself, who has ever claimed that Dave Campbell's rankings are the "gold standard" in Texas? Possessing the ability to publish a comprehensive preview magazine for over 50 years and a dynamic, weekly ranking across 7-8 alignment conferences are vastly different skill sets; we had a guy out here that made a Dave Campbell-esque preview mag for 25+ years and his preseason rankings were frequently out in left field (he'd rank a 4-6 team with 15 starters back over a team that beat them 42-0 but only had three starters back), and the one Dave Campbell mag I have in my library (2008) gets pretty loopy in spots as well (i.e. Allen ranked 14th in 5A preseason just ahead of a 15-1 campaign).
Local rankings are by and large a mixed bag; Sondheimer with the LA Times has been a walking punchline for years among SoCal fans, and the so-called "voice of authority" on the Arizona high school ranks is a guy that was previously the primary beat writer for the Diamondbacks, was very publicly caught plagiarizing in that role, and was demoted to the preps beat in lieu of termination. These "experts" are almost always guys whose first focus is on journalism in general (they'd have no issue writing about politics or movies if that was the opportunity in front of them), sports second (the paper of record out here used the prep beat as a farm system to the pro and college beats - do well writing about the inspiring story of a double-amputee pitcher and you might get full-access to the Suns/Cardinals/Diamondbacks locker room), and high school sports last. You're championing one obviously-flawed methodology because you agree with the end result of it over another obviously-flawed methodology.
Whew, ok.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 10:40 AMWhew, ok.
Get me those end of season examples that differ significantly from Maxpreps.
Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 10:50 AMGet me those end of season examples that differ significantly from Maxpreps.
He won't cause he's not being realistic.
During the season there's fluctuation with MaxPreps that a lot of rankings won't agree with, but at the end of the year it's very good for in-state rankings per division and if there's enough connectivity for the entire state(Texas lower division teams cause problems here because there lower division teams don't play the higher division teams).
Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 10:50 AMGet me those end of season examples that differ significantly from Maxpreps.
Why??
You will just move on to something else even dumber... What's the point?
Just to be clear though.
I'm being told now that MaxPreps regular season rankings are shit and only the final Maxpreps rankings matter
Is that what your buffoons are really rolling with now?
I want to be clear before I make people look very very stupid yet again
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 10:55 AMWhy??
You will just move on to something else even dumber... What's the point?
I literally said end of season results in my first response to you. You're the one that couldn't follow those basic instructions.
Funny story.
I remember in 2018 when TAPP Bishop Dunn finished #12 at MaxPreps in Texas.
Bishop Dunn played 2 Louisiana teams and Desoto for their OOC schedule....Decent OOS schedule.
Anyways, CE Byrd (Shreveport) beat Bishop Dunn. CE Byrd was an above average Louisiana team ranked #27 here by Maxpreps, I believe
The normal buffoons on this forum all claimed MaxPreps sucked because CE Byrd beat Bishop Dunn.
"There's no way in hell Bishop Dunn is #12 in Texas" they all yelled....." they are a low class TAPP (that's private school for you dummies)" , they yelled.
Y'all make up your damn minds.
https://www.maxpreps.com/tx/dallas/bishop-dunne-falcons/football/18-19/schedule/
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 11:05 AMJust to be clear though.
I'm being told now that MaxPreps regular season rankings are shit and only the final Maxpreps rankings matter
Is that what your buffoons are really rolling with now?
I want to be clear before I make people look very very stupid yet again
My senior year Peoria Centennial started the season 3-0. Were ranked fourth in the state for Class 4A going into the fourth week of the season.
In that fourth week we lost 31-7 to Sunrise Mountain, went 1-6 the rest of the way and missed the playoffs.
Phoenix Sunnyslope was never ranked higher than seventh in the state (went 9-1 with a weak schedule) but scored a second round playoff upset and advanced to the semifinals.
It would be really stupid to say that Centennial had just as successful of a season as Sunnyslope since at both teams' peak they were both top four teams. Yet that's the argument your All Rankings Matter viewpoint supports.
I've grown tired and bored with the flip flop.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 11:17 AMFunny story.
I remember in 2018 when TAPP Bishop Dunn finished #12 at MaxPreps in Texas.
Bishop Dunn played 2 Louisiana teams and Desoto for their OOC schedule....Decent OOS schedule.
Anyways, CE Byrd (Shreveport) beat Bishop Dunn. CE Byrd was an above average Louisiana team ranked #27 here by Maxpreps, I believe
The normal buffoons on this forum all claimed MaxPreps sucked because CE Byrd beat Bishop Dunn.
"There's no way in hell Bishop Dunn is #12 in Texas" they all yelled....." they are a low class TAPP (that's private school for you dummies)" , they yelled.
Y'all make up your damn minds.
https://www.maxpreps.com/tx/dallas/bishop-dunne-falcons/football/18-19/schedule/
Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 10:13 AMYou're championing one obviously-flawed methodology because you agree with the end result of it over another obviously-flawed methodology.
I don't know what you're talking about, Woody. Do you?
Who gives a fuck if I agree or don't agree with it?
That was MaxPreps ranking of Texas in 2018.
Good God almighty!
Last year in Texas another TAPP (that's private school for you dummies) finished #23 in Texas at MaxPreps .
Do I agree with it?...... or do I not agree with it?
Who gives a fuck?
That was MaxPreps final Texas ranking of 2025.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 11:31 AMI don't know what you're talking about, Woody. Do you?
Who gives a fuck if I agree or don't agree with it?
That was MaxPreps ranking of Texas in 2018.
Good God almighty!
Not one person has made the argument that Maxpreps is infallible. Ever. I think the algorithm was completely out of sorts ranking Lincoln Christian ahead of Owasso, Jenks, and Carl Albert in their end of season Oklahoma rankings. I can only guess that was due to Lincoln beating Shiloh Christian in OOS play, and if I'm to assume that as fact I disagree with that methodology.
That's just one example of Maxpreps running afoul of my personal prep football sensibilities.
You disagree with Maxpreps ranking of Newman in their New Orleans rankings. Why is that? Where should they be ranked instead? Actually build an argument against those rankings that shows you have some insight on the topic beyond suckling at the teet of some sportswriter getting paid $35K a year.
Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 11:48 AMNot one person has made the argument that Maxpreps is infallible. Ever. I think the algorithm was completely out of sorts ranking Lincoln Christian ahead of Owasso, Jenks, and Carl Albert in their end of season Oklahoma rankings. I can only guess that was due to Lincoln beating Shiloh Christian in OOS play, and if I'm to assume that as fact I disagree with that methodology.
That's just one example of Maxpreps running afoul of my personal prep football sensibilities.
You disagree with Maxpreps ranking of Newman in their New Orleans rankings. Why is that? Where should they be ranked instead? Actually build an argument against those rankings that shows you have some insight on the topic beyond suckling at the teet of some sportswriter getting paid $35K a year.
Now you're shitting on Sportswriters too??
The average pay for a Sportswriter in NOLA is $55K, but again......... you've moved on to something else like you always do when you're getting clubbed.
Reality?
Newman cracked the Louisiana 2A Poll this week at #10.
You people put Newman where you want them and where is does you the most good!
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 12:15 PMNow you're shitting on Sportswriters too??
The average pay for a Sportswriter in NOLA is $55K, but again......... you've moved on to something else like you always do when you're getting clubbed.
Reality?
Newman cracked the Louisiana 2A Poll this week at #10.
You people put Newman where you want them and where is does you the most good!
I shit on sportwriters in the three paragraph reply to you that apparently completely fried your brain since you didn't grasp the beginning (compare end-of-season rankings to end-of-season rankings) or the end (sportswriters are hardly experts in their field, ESPECIALLY when that field is the prep sports beat).
Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 12:57 PMI shit on sportwriters in the three paragraph reply to you that apparently completely fried your brain since you didn't grasp the beginning (compare end-of-season rankings to end-of-season rankings) or the end (sportswriters are hardly experts in their field, ESPECIALLY when that field is the prep sports beat).
Ok Woody. ... I've had enough of your word games.
And I really don't know what you're talking about half the time because I think you are even confused yourself. That happens to a beaten man.
You, skip and gaybob813 are the experts!
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 01:13 PMOk Woody. ... I've had enough of your word games.
And I really don't know what you're talking about half the time because I think you are even confused yourself. That happens to a beaten man.
You, skip and gaybob813 are the experts!
It takes a really stupid man to think "high school sportswriters are bad at their jobs" is a Sudoku puzzle. It amazes me that you don't injure yourself scratching your balls on the daily.
Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 01:24 PMIt takes a really stupid man to think "high school sportswriters are bad at their jobs" is a Sudoku puzzle. It amazes me that you don't injure yourself scratching your balls on the daily.
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Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 01:24 PMIt takes a really stupid man to think "high school sportswriters are bad at their jobs" is a Sudoku puzzle. It amazes me that you don't injure yourself scratching your balls on the daily.
Does anybody even really know what this means?? Yeah, I know. Really!
Woody shit on sportswriters is all I know.
Sportswriters tend to know what's really going on.
Injuries, weather, stats, travel, history, ...etc.
A Maxpreps article after most any game that doesn't involve top teams. 👇
"Team A beat Team B Friday night. It was a good game. Team A will play Team C next week while team B will play team Z."
You people are such suckers!!
This is all smoke and mirrors. Just nonsense to take away from New Orleans 13 vs San Diego 14
Let the game begin!!!!
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 01:41 PMDoes anybody even really know what this means?? Yeah, I know. Really!
1) You said you were tired of my "word games"
2) My response was that you have to be an idiot to take a very straightforward statement like "sportswriters are bad at their jobs" and see it as a literal word game (i.e. a sudoku puzzle)
3) Your reply to me calling you stupid is to say you don't understand what I'm saying
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
You are BAD at this.
MaxPreps got you covered, baby! LMAO, oh, my.
Maximum coverage! 😭
An estimated 7,100 to 7,200 high school varsity football games are played every weekend across the United States during the peak of the fall season
Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 01:52 PM1) You said you were tired of my "word games"
2) My response was that you have to be an idiot to take a very straightforward statement like "sportswriters are bad at their jobs" and see it as a literal word game (i.e. a sudoku puzzle)
3) Your reply to me calling you stupid is to say you don't understand what I'm saying
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
You are BAD at this.
Ok, Woody!
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 10, 2026, 01:41 PMSportswriters tend to know what's really going on.
Injuries, weather, stats, travel, history, ...etc.
A Maxpreps article after most any game that doesn't involve top teams. 👇
"Team A beat Team B Friday night. It was a good game. Team A will play Team C next week while team B will play team Z."
You people are such suckers!!
You're rather gullible to think sportswriters are getting ahold of information that wasn't going to see the light of day on its own. Sportwriters know what the coaches allow them to know, and a good share of that is stuff coaches know is not going to stay under wraps naturally.
I've been around long enough to remember that the shocking thing about Spencer Rattler's suspension during his senior year at Pinnacle wasn't that it happened or he lied about an injury to cover it up but that NOBODY knew why it happened. The fact that the coaches and family were able to lock that down without a slip to the Phoenix prep sports rumor mill is downright miraculous.
Number 13 New Orleans is tied with number 14 San Diego at the end of the first.7-7
I told you it should be a clean even game
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 10, 2026, 05:37 PMNumber 13 New Orleans is tied with number 14 San Diego at the end of the first.7-7
I told you it should be a clean even game
Ans the game is in Louisiana
14-7 good guys
https://x.com/ericricheyvsn/status/2098210461258858918?s=46
21-7 Santa Fe Christian up at half
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 10, 2026, 06:21 PM21-7 Santa Fe Christian up at half
Looking like NOLA might not have depth
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 10, 2026, 06:24 PMLooking like NOLA might not have depth
They got to sleep in their beds while Santa Fe Christian is getting jet lag over 2 time zones and cooped up in hotels.
They are coming off what Red Flag has deemed a great surprising win against a top ranked Texas private school.
This team shot up the state and metro rankings higher than they have in the maxpreps era. This was their once in a generation team.
Hosting an up and comer that is only discussed because of a famous QB part of the program.
I'm questioning the depth in New Orleans if they can't make a game of it in the 2nd half
Update?
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 10, 2026, 06:48 PMUpdate?
No one is updating anything: I thought Red Flag was gonna be at this game
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 10, 2026, 06:54 PMNo one is updating anything: I thought Red Flag was gonna be at this game
He already made 1000 excuses for Newman
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 10, 2026, 06:56 PMHe already made 1000 excuses for Newman
Funny how he is always missing when Lousiana is playing OOS. He would only come into the Carrollton/Catholic and NS/Curtis if the Louisiana team made a good play.
SMH.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 10, 2026, 06:48 PMUpdate?
It's 41-7 now. Santa Fe Christian is crushing the 13th ranked New Orleans team right now
https://x.com/ericricheyvsn/status/2098234268786847945?s=46
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 10, 2026, 07:17 PMIt's 41-7 now. Santa Fe Christian is crushing the 13th ranked New Orleans team right now
https://x.com/ericricheyvsn/status/2098234268786847945?s=46
Figures.
NOLA is 💩
Lousiana has been outscored 129-51 in the 3 top OOS games this year.
Carrollton 61, Catholic 27
North Shore 27, Curtis 17
Santa Fe Christian 41, Newman 7 (so far)
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 10, 2026, 07:20 PMFigures.
NOLA is 💩
When you see these results, it makes so much sense why Red Flag always pumps up the craziest results like beating Legacy TX, St Johns, random Mississippi etc etc.
it's all he has!!!!
After 6 months of Red Flag hyping this game, he will weasel his way here sometime to say Santa Fe is a title contender and Newman is garbage.
Rinse repeat.
Ruston/Longview and Curtis/Louisville will be the new hype.
SMH
Final?
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 10, 2026, 08:14 PMFinal?
41-7. I think Brees didn't want to run up the score since his kid used to go to Newman and played with those guys in youth ball.
It was 41-7 after 3. Game could have been 55-7 but Santa Fe didn't feel the need to make it happen.
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 11, 2026, 04:06 AM41-7. I think Brees didn't want to run up the score since his kid used to go to Newman and played with those guys in youth ball.
It was 41-7 after 3. Game could have been 55-7 but Santa Fe didn't feel the need to make it happen.
Those Louisiana teams have been getting a lot of pity lately. Carrollton could've put up 70 on Catholic and decided to leave it at 61
Newman will always be home to the 5-8 153 pounders with BMWs!........
There's a reason why Newman has never played in a state championship game.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 11, 2026, 04:30 AMThose Louisiana teams have been getting a lot of pity lately. Carrollton could've put up 70 on Catholic and decided to leave it at 61
Yeah they had 61 after 3 quarters. They emptied the bench in the 4th to let all the 2nd and 3rd stringers get in the game since they took the 9 hour bus ride.
But yeah, they could have easily scored 75 had they went full force
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 11, 2026, 04:39 AMNewman will always be home to the 5-8 153 pounders with BMWs!........
There's a reason why Newman has never played in a state championship game.
All of the NFL and college talent that came through their pipeline was 5'8" 153 pounds?
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 11, 2026, 04:42 AMAll of the NFL and college talent that came through their pipeline was 5'8" 153 pounds?
Santa Fe Christian's make up is similar to Newman's..... Believe that
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Sep 08, 2026, 02:39 PMWest Monroe is the biggest high school in Louisiana. And when 3A American Heritage-Delray went over there (3A out of 8A), they brought 40 players from a high school of 500 enrollment, and were beating West Monroe so bad they were kneeling the ball in the red zone up 31-7 and couldn't even run out the clock! They turned the ball over on downs on a QB kneel!!!!
West Monroe hasn't been the largest high school in Louisiana since they build West Ouachita in 1989 and took 40% of the students
I hope Drew Brees, his boys and Santa Fe Christian can win an elite California Bowl championship this year...
They were so close last year.
I'm going to keep my eye on Santa Fe Christian.
No need for anybody to keep an eye on Newman.
Newman will make the trip to California next year and Santa Fe Christian won't have their 6-4 QB who was the biggest player on the field last night. 😀
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 11, 2026, 05:06 AMSanta Fe Christian's make up is similar to Newman's..... Believe that
Newman and Santa Fe were the same set up. Same size high scho enrollment. Same ranking in their metro area. Same cost of tuition. Same everything. The only difference was Santa Fe had to travel 2 time zones to play. With jet lag.
Newman had home field advantage with their good ole boy refs.
This was a bad loss for Newman, New Orleans Metro and Louisiana in general. 41-7 after 3 quarters is not a good look
I noticed Red Flag orphaned all the Losioana teams who got the tar beat out them OOS.
When State number 3 Baton Rouge Catholic was losing 61-20 in the 3rd quarter, he made this whole paragraph about how Catholic sucks and won't win state and wont be top 250 blah blah blah.
Then he said after Curtis was able to only lose by 2 scores with the help of the most crooked refs this decade he said they aren't the same team won't win state and they suck blah blah blah
Now Newman is next man up who forever sucks and won't win anything.
I really hope Ruston beats Longview. Louisiana is running out of teams! Lol.
SMH
Quote from: Wooderson on Sep 10, 2026, 10:50 AMGet me those end of season examples that differ significantly from Maxpreps.
Bump
Little interview from one of the Santa Fe players after they put a running clock on the 13th ranked New Orleans team
https://x.com/ericricheyvsn/status/2098271614563451005?s=46
Is there a stream for this game?
Quote from: AztecPadre on Sep 11, 2026, 02:57 PMIs there a stream for this game?
The game was played yesterday.
Santa Fe Christian 41 Louisiana team 7
Quote from: AztecPadre on Sep 11, 2026, 02:57 PMIs there a stream for this game?
Yes, I'll post it at 7:30.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 11, 2026, 03:09 PMThe game was played yesterday.
Santa Fe Christian 41 Louisiana team 7
Lol. Dang. That's almost getting Norcrossed.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Sep 11, 2026, 04:01 PMLol. Dang. That's almost getting Norcrossed.
It's called getting Newman'd