Watching SJB clobber Manatee 31-0 at the half
Looks like its Cali vs FL this weekend. Who ever wins claims top billing forever.
Who's the QB for SJB?
Quote from: AztecPadre on Aug 22, 2025, 05:51 PMWho's the QB for SJB?
Sophmore kid dont know his name. Weather delay now
Quote from: AztecPadre on Aug 22, 2025, 05:51 PMWho's the QB for SJB?
Soph. Koa Malau'ulu. He was alternating series last year until Matai Fuiava left mid season for Kahuku then Koa took over full time.
Soph. Brody Scheinberg also played one series in the Manatee game and threw a 50 yard TD to Daniel Odom. He's also looked strong this summer, so he could potentially see quite a few snaps this season.
Centennial up 14-0 on Servite, circus catch by a tght end???what's next, a field goal.
Servite fails to score from first and goal at the one yard line. Not a good look considering the strength of that team is supposed to be their line.
Manatee is not good. SJB should not have been playing a team that vast in inferiority. I would be shocked if Manatee finishes top 50 in Florida. They lost their whole team.
The computers have Manatee 75th in Florida.
Is MV the best public school in the state?
Quote from: Ararar on Aug 28, 2025, 10:37 PMIs MV the best public school in the state?
They're definitely up there with San Juan Hills.💪👍
Sierra canyon up 3 TD on Oaks Christian
Quote from: Ararar on Aug 28, 2025, 10:37 PMIs MV the best public school in the state?
Folsom
Quote from: Ararar on Aug 28, 2025, 10:37 PMIs MV the best public school in the state?
1. Cen10
2. MV
3. Folsom
Was anyone impressed with Folsom win over Serra? After watching it I wasn't that impressed.
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 02, 2025, 10:11 AMWas anyone impressed with Folsom win over Serra? After watching it I wasn't that impressed.
Neither was I.... Serra is a Team that lost 6 games last year and they look like they will post a similar record... They have a lot of Size, especially on the Lines but seemed to lack overall team speed, Especially in the LB's and DB's other then #4 who was quite a player....
Folsoms defense can't stop anyone.... The Serra offense was very average, yet they gashed Folsom for big play after big play and game was Tied at 42 with 2 min left....
Folsoms QB and WR's are Excellent, OLine is Huge but not sure how good they are..... I think they will Score on MV, But MV is going to hang 50 on that Folsom Defense I watched.... 🤣
Anyone going to the MV-Folsom game?
Quote from: Cal 14 on Sep 05, 2025, 04:02 PMAnyone going to the MV-Folsom game?
I'd be there if the Bosco game wasn't tonight as well.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 05, 2025, 04:13 PMQuote from: Cal 14 on Sep 05, 2025, 04:02 PMAnyone going to the MV-Folsom game?
I'd be there if the Bosco game wasn't tonight as well.
;)
Are these games on NFHS?
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 02, 2025, 11:06 AMQuote from: Ararar on Sep 02, 2025, 10:11 AMWas anyone impressed with Folsom win over Serra? After watching it I wasn't that impressed.
Neither was I.... Serra is a Team that lost 6 games last year and they look like they will post a similar record... They have a lot of Size, especially on the Lines but seemed to lack overall team speed, Especially in the LB's and DB's other then #4 who was quite a player....
Folsoms defense can't stop anyone.... The Serra offense was very average, yet they gashed Folsom for big play after big play and game was Tied at 42 with 2 min left....
Folsoms QB and WR's are Excellent, OLine is Huge but not sure how good they are..... I think they will Score on MV, But MV is going to hang 50 on that Folsom Defense I watched.... 🤣
Getting there ...
Mater Dei survives a scare against Kahuku and holds on 21-18. Meanwhile Bishop Gorman beat Kahuku in Hawaii 38-0. Unless the Monarchs were sandbagging (I didn't watch the game or see any highlights yet) there is a real threat that their winning streak against The World (minus Bosco) could be in Jeopardy in two weeks.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 05, 2025, 10:39 PMMater Dei survives a scare against Kahuku and holds on 21-18. Meanwhile Bishop Gorman beat Kahuku in Hawaii 38-0. Unless the Monarchs were sandbagging (I didn't watch the game or see any highlights yet) there is a real threat that their winning streak against The World (minus Bosco) could be in Jeopardy in two weeks.
The way they are playing, there is a real threat the steak ends next week against Centennial. That would be fitting since they were the last team not named Bosco to beat them in 2015.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Sep 06, 2025, 04:55 AMQuote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 05, 2025, 10:39 PMMater Dei survives a scare against Kahuku and holds on 21-18. Meanwhile Bishop Gorman beat Kahuku in Hawaii 38-0. Unless the Monarchs were sandbagging (I didn't watch the game or see any highlights yet) there is a real threat that their winning streak against The World (minus Bosco) could be in Jeopardy in two weeks.
The way they are playing, there is a real threat the steak ends next week against Centennial. That would be fitting since they were the last team not named Bosco to beat them in 2015.
This is called the Raul Lara effect.... Lots of talent, lack of Dicipline and a bad offense.... Saw it for years at LBP.... 🤣
So who's the best team in NorCal? DLS or Folsom? Is there a dark horse?
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 06, 2025, 08:18 PMSo who's the best team in NorCal? DLS or Folsom? Is there a dark horse?
DLS is still top dog in the north, hasn't changed in decades. Their offense is atrocious, their defense is light out. Folsom a step lower.
Some have been on Riordan's nuts for a few years now and this year is "really" their year. They play Pitt this week in the top game up north probably determine the 3rd best team.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Sep 06, 2025, 04:55 AMQuote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 05, 2025, 10:39 PMMater DeiQuote from: Bodysurf on Sep 06, 2025, 04:55 AMQuote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 05, 2025, 10:39 PMMater Dei survives a scare against Kahuku and holds on 21-18. Meanwhile Bishop Gorman beat Kahuku in Hawaii 38-0. Unless the Monarchs were sandbagging (I didn't watch the game or see any highlights yet) there is a real threat that their winning streak against The World (minus Bosco) could be in Jeopardy in two weeks.
The way they are playing, there is a real threat the steak ends next week against Centennial. That would be fitting since they were the last team not named Bosco to beat them in 2015.
survives a scare against Kahuku and holds on 21-18. Meanwhile Bishop Gorman beat Kahuku in Hawaii 38-0. Unless the Monarchs were sandbagging (I didn't watch the game or see any highlights yet) there is a real threat that their winning streak against The World (minus Bosco) could be in Jeopardy in two weeks.
The way they are playing, there is a real threat the steak ends next week against Centennial. That would be fitting since they were the last team not named Bosco to beat them in 2015. Quote from: Bodysurf on Sep 06, 2025, 04:55 AMQuote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 05, 2025, 10:39 PMMater Dei survives a scare against Kahuku and holds on 21-18. Meanwhile Bishop Gorman beat Kahuku in Hawaii 38-0. Unless the Monarchs were sandbagging (I didn't watch the game or see any highlights yet) there is a real threat that their winning streak against The World (minus Bosco) could be in Jeopardy in two weeks.
The way they are playing, there is a real threat the steak ends next week against Centennial. That would be fitting since they were the last team not named Bosco to beat them in 2015.
I don't think Cen10 will give them too much of a problem. They are a problem for teams with questionable defense only. I see two to four pick sixes on the horizon.
Quote from: On2Wheels on Sep 07, 2025, 03:33 PMQuote from: Bodysurf on Sep 06, 2025, 04:55 AMQuote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 05, 2025, 10:39 PMMater DeiQuote from: Bodysurf on Sep 06, 2025, 04:55 AMQuote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 05, 2025, 10:39 PMMater Dei survives a scare against Kahuku and holds on 21-18. Meanwhile Bishop Gorman beat Kahuku in Hawaii 38-0. Unless the Monarchs were sandbagging (I didn't watch the game or see any highlights yet) there is a real threat that their winning streak against The World (minus Bosco) could be in Jeopardy in two weeks.
The way they are playing, there is a real threat the steak ends next week against Centennial. That would be fitting since they were the last team not named Bosco to beat them in 2015.
survives a scare against Kahuku and holds on 21-18. Meanwhile Bishop Gorman beat Kahuku in Hawaii 38-0. Unless the Monarchs were sandbagging (I didn't watch the game or see any highlights yet) there is a real threat that their winning streak against The World (minus Bosco) could be in Jeopardy in two weeks.
The way they are playing, there is a real threat the steak ends next week against Centennial. That would be fitting since they were the last team not named Bosco to beat them in 2015. Quote from: Bodysurf on Sep 06, 2025, 04:55 AMQuote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 05, 2025, 10:39 PMMater Dei survives a scare against Kahuku and holds on 21-18. Meanwhile Bishop Gorman beat Kahuku in Hawaii 38-0. Unless the Monarchs were sandbagging (I didn't watch the game or see any highlights yet) there is a real threat that their winning streak against The World (minus Bosco) could be in Jeopardy in two weeks.
The way they are playing, there is a real threat the steak ends next week against Centennial. That would be fitting since they were the last team not named Bosco to beat them in 2015.
I don't think Cen10 will give them too much of a problem. They are a problem for teams with questionable defense only. I see two to four pick sixes on the horizon.
What if Cen10 does pull the Upset though?.... MD could be starting down a possible 4 loss season.... That would be insane, and surely get Lara run out of town....
I don't think that will be the case though.... MD has a tendency to take teams lightly which they did against Kahuku and probably considered that more of a Hawaii vacation rather than a serious FB game.... I think they will rebound and play well against Cen10 and BG.... If they don't though, they will be in big trouble.... 🤣
QuoteMD has a tendency to take teams lightly which they did against Kahuku and probably considered that more of a Hawaii vacation rather than a serious FB game
That was a home game for Mater Dei...
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 08, 2025, 07:03 AMQuoteMD has a tendency to take teams lightly which they did against Kahuku and probably considered that more of a Hawaii vacation rather than a serious FB game
That was a home game for Mater Dei...
HA!!.., My bad, Maybe MD was just daydreaming during the game that they were in Hawaii instead... 🤣🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 08, 2025, 12:59 PMQuote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 08, 2025, 07:03 AMQuoteMD has a tendency to take teams lightly which they did against Kahuku and probably considered that more of a Hawaii vacation rather than a serious FB game
That was a home game for Mater Dei...
HA!!.., My bad, Maybe MD was just daydreaming during the game that they were in Hawaii instead... 🤣🤣
MD needs a QB.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Sep 08, 2025, 03:31 PMQuote from: TheOC89 on Sep 08, 2025, 12:59 PMQuote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 08, 2025, 07:03 AMQuoteMD has a tendency to take teams lightly which they did against Kahuku and probably considered that more of a Hawaii vacation rather than a serious FB game
That was a home game for Mater Dei...
HA!!.., My bad, Maybe MD was just daydreaming during the game that they were in Hawaii instead... 🤣🤣
MD needs a QB.
I agree, I was home sick from work today so I watched MD vs Kahuku and SJB vs SFA and wasn't overly impressed with the QB play on either team....
I do think that MD was kind of Mailing that game in, they looked sloppy and lethargic, Turnovers, Bad Penalties, dropped passes and couldn't control the LOS....
I thought SJB looked better overall, a little quicker, more diciplined, less mistakes, and SFA is a really good team.... SJB's QB missed some open throws and doesn't throw a great ball, but he hit the big plays when he needed to and SJB's receivers are very good.... Plus isn't the SJB QB like a Sophomore?.... He will only get better....
The next 2 weeks will tell a lot about MD, their QB and overall team... If they don't play more disciplined and stop shooting themselves in the foot, that could go 0-2... They don't look like the Top team in the country right now, they look very beatable....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 08, 2025, 07:21 PMSJB's QB missed some open throws and doesn't throw a great ball, but he hit the big plays when he needed to and SJB's receivers are very good....
There were like 4 passes that if he threw them with 5% less gas they would have been completions. As you said he's just a sophomore so hopefully the touch will develop with time.
I told Steeler this during the game, and I'll repeat it here. He needs to stop throwing jump balls over the middle. He threw one in the SFA game that could have very easily been a pick. I understand that Madden Williams is a beast, but if you want to throw him a jump ball do it on an out or a fade and not on a post into traffic over the middle of the field.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 08, 2025, 09:10 PMQuote from: TheOC89 on Sep 08, 2025, 07:21 PMSJB's QB missed some open throws and doesn't throw a great ball, but he hit the big plays when he needed to and SJB's receivers are very good....
There were like 4 passes that if he threw them with 5% less gas they would have been completions. As you said he's just a sophomore so hopefully the touch will develop with time.
I told Steeler this during the game, and I'll repeat it here. He needs to stop throwing jump balls over the middle. He threw one in the SFA game that could have very easily been a pick. I understand that Madden Williams is a beast, but if you want to throw him a jump ball do it on an out or a fade and not on a post into traffic over the middle of the field.
Yes, that was the Difference in the game.... SJB held on to 2 INT's over the middle from the SFA QB, those were both key stops....
To your point, SJB's QB's best throws were the deep throws down the sideline, he hit 2 of those for TD's.... The ones in the middle of the field could be a little scary.... I think he will only get better though... Unless he doesn't beat MD and JN decides to Replace him with a Transfer.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 08, 2025, 09:28 PMI think he will only get better though... Unless he doesn't beat MD and JN decides to Replace him with a Transfer.... 🤣
OK, I'll bite.
- Josh Rosen: Entered as a Freshman in 2011 and started 2012-2014.
- Quentin Davis: Transferred from Mater Dei as a Sophomore in 2013. Started in 2015 as a Senior.
- Re'al Mitchell: Entered as a Freshman in 2014. Started as a Junior and Senior. Split snaps with DJU in mid 2017 before becoming "injured"
- DJ Uiagalelei: Entered as a Freshman in 2016. Split snaps in 2017, started in 2018 and 2019.
- Pierce Clarkson: Entered as a Freshman in 2019. Split snaps with Katin Houser in 2020 (Spring 2021 6 game season) and 2021. Started in 2022
- Katin Houser: Transferred as a Junior in 2020 (Spring 2021) and split snap with Pierce Clarkson in 2020 and 2021.
- Caleb Sanchez: Entered as a Freshman in 2020. Started as a Senior in 2023.
- Matai Fuiava: Entered as a Freshman in 2022. Started as a Junior the first half of 2024. Split snaps with Koa Malau'ulu for 2 games before leaving for Kahuku, HI.
- Koa Malau'ulu: Entered as a Freshman in 2024. Split snaps with Matai Fuiava before taking over as the starter in 2024 after Matai left. Started as a Sophomore in 2025.
Negro has literally never replaced any starting QB with a transfer. He's only had 2 transfer QBs in his 16 year tenure (Quentin Davis who started 1 year as a Senior after Rosen graduated and Katin Houser who split snaps with Pierce Clarkson for 1.5 seasons after DJU graduated) and he doesn't "replace" QBs. In two instances, he platooned 2 QBs and in both instances a QB "quit" the team because neither of their egos could handle splitting snaps with another QB.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 09, 2025, 09:35 AMQuote from: TheOC89 on Sep 08, 2025, 09:28 PMI think he will only get better though... Unless he doesn't beat MD and JN decides to Replace him with a Transfer.... 🤣
OK, I'll bite.
- Josh Rosen: Entered as a Freshman in 2011 and started 2012-2014.
- Quentin Davis: Transferred from Mater Dei as a Sophomore in 2013. Started in 2015 as a Senior.
- Re'al Mitchel: Entered as a Freshman in 2014. Started as a Junior and Senior. Split snaps with DJU in mid 2017 before becoming "injured"
- DJ Uiagalelei: Entered as a Freshman in 2016. Split snaps in 2017, started in 2018 and 2019.
- Pierce Clarkson: Entered as a Freshman in 2019. Split snaps with Katin Houser in 2020 (Spring 2021 6 game season) and 2021. Started in 2022
- Katin Houser: Transferred as a Junior in 2020 (Spring 2021) and split snap with Pierce Clarkson in 2020 and 2021.
- Caleb Sanchez: Entered as a Freshman in 2020. Started as a Senior in 2023.
- Matai Fuiava: Entered as a Freshman in 2022. Started as a Junior the first half of 2024. Split snaps with Koa Malau'ulu for 2 games before leaving for Kahuku, HI.
- Koa Malau'ulu: Entered as a Freshman in 2024. Split snaps with Matai Fuiava before taking over as the starter in 2024 after Matai left. Started as a Sophomore in 2025.
Negro has literally never replaced any starting QB with a transfer. He's only had 2 transfer QBs in his 16 year tenure (Quentin Davis who started 1 year as a Senior after Rosen graduated and Katin Houser who split snaps with Pierce Clarkson for 1.5 seasons after DJU graduated) and he doesn't "replace" QBs. In two instances, he platooned 2 QBs and in both instances a QB "quit" the team because neither of their egos could handle splitting snaps with another QB.
HA!.... That is a great rundown!.... I just assumed that with the way the TL goes that SJB had a transfer or 2 as a starter over the last several years.... I think the current kid will be really good.... He already has big game experience and he runs the offense well....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 09, 2025, 07:08 PMHA!.... That is a great rundown!.... I just assumed that with the way the TL goes that SJB had a transfer or 2 as a starter over the last several years.... I think the current kid will be really good.... He already has big game experience and he runs the offense well....
Now, Mater Dei on the other hand... 3 of their last 4 QBs have been either JR or SR transfers (though none of them have replaced existing starters).
- Bryce Young (transferred as a JR in 2018)
- Elijah Brown (started FR-SR)
- Dash Beierly (transferred as a SR in 2024)
- Ryan Hopkins (transferred as a SR in 2025)
Bishop Montgomery kids apparently shopping around in Arizona:
https://x.com/therealbeadle/status/1966615483639284135
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 08, 2025, 07:21 PMThat was a home game for Mater Dei...
HA!!.., My bad, Maybe MD was just daydreaming during the game that they were in Hawaii instead... 🤣🤣
MD needs a QB.
I agree, I was home sick from work today so I watched MD vs Kahuku and SJB vs SFA and wasn't overly impressed with the QB play on either team....
I do think that MD was kind of Mailing that game in, they looked sloppy and lethargic, Turnovers, Bad Penalties, dropped passes and couldn't control the LOS....
I thought SJB looked better overall, a little quicker, more diciplined, less mistakes, and SFA is a really good team.... SJB's QB missed some open throws and doesn't throw a great ball, but he hit the big plays when he needed to and SJB's receivers are very good.... Plus isn't the SJB QB like a Sophomore?.... He will only get better....
The next 2 weeks will tell a lot about MD, their QB and overall team... If they don't play more disciplined and stop shooting themselves in the foot, that could go 0-2... They don't look like the Top team in the country right now, they look very beatable....
I think the SJB qb will be fine . I don't mind a few missed throws as he is learning and getting more comfortable in pocket . What I like is his confidence when he throws it . He steps right into it and he has a great arm . As far as MD goes, that was a lacklustre, already know the outcome kind of performance like SJB had a couple of seasons' ago . Their defense seems to have slipped a little though . Next couple of games will reveal a lot more
Centennial marches down the field and scores on opening possession on MD
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 07:14 PMCentennial marches down the field and scores on opening possession on MD
Cen10 holds MD 3 and out....
Pick 6 for Centennial
14-0 Huskies 4min left in 1st
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 07:28 PMPick 6 for Centennial
MD is in trouble.... They are looking like they did last week.... Cen10 just looks faster right now....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 12, 2025, 07:30 PMMD is in trouble.... They are looking like they did last week.... Cen10 just looks faster right now....
12 is killing the MD OLine fumble MD Centennial recovery
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 07:32 PM12 is killing the MD OLine fumble MD Centennial recovery
Wow...
TD Centennial 21-0 3 min left in 1st
Fumble MD huskies recover
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Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 07:37 PMFumble MD huskies recover
MD's OLine is just getting Dominated.... MD's QB is not elite by any means.....
TD Centennial 28-0 still first qrt
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 12, 2025, 07:39 PMMD's OLine is just getting Dominated.... MD's QB is not elite by any means.....
Yeah they look awful.The QB has no time back there
Just Wow!!.... 🤣
SJB up 21-0 over Serra. 2 min left in the first half.
Where is Hurricane Nick?
TD MD
28-7 10min before half
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 07:56 PM28-7 10min before half
You know what they say.... It's better to be down Big early.... 🤣
SJB 28 - Serra 0 Half
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 12, 2025, 08:02 PMYou know what they say.... It's better to be down Big early.... 🤣
Monarchs punching air that they hired Laura and not Logan
Uhhh did Centennial just kick a FG? Yes they did 31-7 5min before halftime
One bright spot for Serra, they have a great placekicker. Just watched him kick a 60 yard FG during half time.
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 08:08 PMUhhh did Centennial just kick a FG? Yes they did 31-7 5min before halftime
Might be more surprising than the score.
Please tell me Logan is still wearing shorts.
Btw they announced the MD score at the SJB game and everyone cheered, lmao
Centennial held on 4th down on their own 30
Also 2 punts by centennial 😂
Screw the pick'em #9 Mater Dei pick this week:
THIS is a call for celebration 🥳
No offense, California 😇
Raul gotta be shitting bricks. He's going to be that guy that got probably gets running clocked. Lol wow. And of course the light shines brighter on MD being who they are. The stress must be insane!
MD 3rd and 17 from their 1 time out
Certainly one of the more shocking results in recent memory if it holds. It's perhaps not shocking if you just said Team X, which only beat Kahuku 21-18 and had another 3-point win. But, since when is MATER DEI merely Team X?
Safety for centennial 33-7 1 minute before halftime
Halftime 33-7 Centennial
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 12, 2025, 08:12 PMBtw they announced the MD score at the SJB game and everyone cheered, lmao
I would hope so 😂.
TD MD 10 min left in 3rd
2point conversion 33-15
3 and out for the huskies
Fumble MD Centennial recovers
MD interception
42 yard QB TD run for MD 2 point conversion good 33-23 5 min left in 3rd
3 and out for centennial
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 08:53 PMTD MD 10 min left in 3rd
2point conversion 33-15
33-23 now.... The MD Bus with the actual team must have showed up at halftime..... 🤣
71 yd TD pass MD
33-30 2:39 left in 3rd
Centennial fumble MD recovers
MD about to take the lead
TD MD XP blocked 36-33 MD
Fired.
Everyone from Centennial is fired.
The Coaches fired!
The players. Fired!
The referees! Fired!
The cameraman, Fired!
The FANS. Fired!!
The Bus Driver
FIRED
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End of 3rd
3rd qrt score
MD 29 Centennial 0
FG Centennial 36-36 8:27 left
MD fumbles again Centennial recovers
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 09:48 PMMD fumbles again Centennial recovers
How many MD turnovers is that now? Geez...
Centennial converts 4th and 10
Wow!.... Cen10 converts on 4th and 10!!...
Centennial 1st and goal on the 8
2nd and goal on the 4
3rd and goal on the 4
TD Centennial 2:27 left 43-36 Huskies
MD starts at their 40
Sacked on 1st down
Time out MD they have 1 left
Flag on MD 2nd and 23
Hail Mary simultaneously received and they give to Centennial
1:50 left
Doesn't a tie go to a reciever?
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Sep 12, 2025, 10:04 PMDoesn't a tie go to a reciever?
That's the big discussion right now
Centennial wins
What a crazy game
Great win for Centennial. Of course, it has absolutely zero bearing on the mythical "national championship" as that has been reserved for whoever wins the second Mater Dei-SJB game. IMO, there's a good chance we'll have a 2-loss national champion. SJB will defeat Mater Dei in the first game. But, the 2-loss Monarchs will avenge that loss in the Open Bowl title game and win their 417th consecutive national championship.
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Sep 12, 2025, 10:04 PMDoesn't a tie go to a reciever?
The origional call went to MD then Refs Discussed and gave the Ball to Cen10.... I call home cooking on that.... 🤣
Great win for Cen10!!.... Eventhough it cost me 10 points in the Pick em!.... 🤣🤣
30 or so years in coaching and Matt Logan finally figures it out that you kick field goals, you can win alot more games 😂. Congrats to CC nice to see them get the W
Sounds like there were some great games everywhere!
I thought Centennial was up big the last time I checked.
The MD QB was about to get sacked again and just heaved it down field and around the Centennial 40 it was a true simultaneous reception.one Ref pointed that it was MD ball.They then huddled briefly and gave it to Centennial
First MD loss in a decade to someone not named SJB (fun fact, Centennial was the last team to beat MD before that streak). Guess this takes some of the luster off of next week's game in Vegas...
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Sep 12, 2025, 10:10 PMGreat win for Centennial. Of course, it has absolutely zero bearing on the mythical "national championship" as that has been reserved for whoever wins the second Mater Dei-SJB game. IMO, there's a good chance we'll have a 2-loss national champion. SJB will defeat Mater Dei in the first game. But, the 2-loss Monarchs will avenge that loss in the Open Bowl title game and win their 417th consecutive national championship.
Not so sure about all this.... MD still have to play BG.... SJB has to play MD, RSM, And Possibly Cen10 or MV in the Playoffs or of course MD again.... No one in So Cal is unbeatable right now....
But it took 7 Turnovers and a very questionable call by the Refs for Cen10 to win, but they get all the credit, Cen10's Defense was lights out in the first half and came up with big plays when they needed to....
Right now the So Cal team that has the Best path to the MNC is SJB.... MD vs BG next week will be huge.... Not sure MD will have enough to win that especially after this emotional loss....
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 12, 2025, 10:16 PMFirst MD loss in a decade to someone not named SJB (fun fact, Centennial was the last team to beat MD before that streak). Guess this takes some of the luster off of next week's game in Vegas...
The 👑 is now sitting on SJB head
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 12, 2025, 10:16 PMNot so sure about all this.... MD still have to play BG.... SJB has to play MD, RSM, And Possibly Cen10 or MV in the Playoffs or of course MD again.... No one in So Cal is unbeatable right now....
But it took 7 Turnovers and a very questionable call by the Refs for Cen10 to win, but they get all the credit, Cen10's Defense was lights out in the first half and came up with big plays when they needed to....
Right now the So Cal team that has the Best path to the MNC is SJB.... MD vs BG next week will be hugh.... Not sure MD will have enough to win that especially after this emotional loss....
Save your breath. This is the same tired shtick he's been using for the last 10 years. He's just salty that Lakeland hasn't been relevant since the mid aughts.
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 10:19 PMThe 👑 is now sitting on SJB head
In terms of polls maybe. None of that matters though until November/December.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 12, 2025, 10:12 PMSounds like there were some great games everywhere!
I thought Centennial was up big the last time I checked.
I didn't get to see the beginning but it sounds like Mater Dei did just about everything you don't want to do in that first half and more.
Then Cen10 kind of got the dear in headlights look and let Mater Dei comeback. That was the wildest Cali game I've seen in awhile 😵�💫
Even though it cost some pick'em points, I'm happy to see Cen10 pull off the upset.
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 10:19 PMThe 👑 is now sitting on SJB head
😤 Darn it St Frances 😡 You had them beat
Mater Dei all the way down to #11 over at HSRatings
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Ned currently has 6 of his top 11 teams in the country in the CIF Southern Section. Probably not the case, but MV, SM, Centennial and Sierra Canyon are all looking pretty good this year. The playoffs should be interesting this year...
Centennial won but it took 6 turnovers 1 pick 6 a safety and a questionable call to do so.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 12, 2025, 10:28 PMMater Dei all the way down to #11 over at HSRatings
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Ned currently has 6 of his top 11 teams in the country in the CIF Southern Section. Probably not the case, but MV, SM, Centennial and Sierra Canyon are all looking pretty good this year. The playoffs should be interesting this year...
I actually think MD will be fine in the end if that MD team that showed up in the second half shows up to every game.... If they lose 1 more game though, Lara may not make it through the season... 🤣
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 12, 2025, 10:32 PMCentennial won but it took 6 turnovers 1 pick 6 a safety and a questionable call to do so.
Exactly.... And let's keep this in perspective.... Cen10 lost to RSM.... Does anyone think that MD is losing to RSM this year?.... 🤣
Cen10's loss to SM is definitely throwing off algorithms. As much as I would love to see every poll put them at #11; I still think they're at the very LEAST #2.
This is a good kick in the pants for the entire organization. First off, no one's really fearing Mater Dei like they used to anymore. Rollison is gone and the close games and undisciplined nature is causing them to look very vulnerable, especially this preseason and if Bishop Gorman comes in playing 0 games; this could be the beginning of the end for Mater Dei;
At least, just for this season.
If they're lucky.
This was a stunner, but I still think MD is the better team overall. If the team that woke up in the 2nd half plays that way against Gorman, the Gaels might get upset. It wouldn't shock me in the least. Southern Cal is killing it this year, though.
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Sep 12, 2025, 10:41 PMThis is a good kick in the pants for the entire organization. First off, no one's really fearing Mater Dei like they used to anymore. Rollison is gone and the close games and undisciplined nature is causing them to look very vulnerable, especially this preseason and if Bishop Gorman comes in playing 0 games; this could be the beginning of the end for Mater Dei;
At least, just for this season.
If they're lucky.
I agree.another game with 100 yards in penalties.They are looking very LBP at the moment.Super talented,sloppy and undisciplined
It seems like all the top Ca teams have had games they shoulda/coulda won but didn't . MD to fight all the way back and take the lead, only to give it back on a to . Cen10 was down all game to SM, only exerting themselves at the end but missing the extra point . OLU losing 24=0 to Bash, AZ, coming all the way back and having a drive stall in redzone as time expired . If these teams play again I would pick the loser to win the rematches . A lot of times the better teams lose early to teams they are better than. Winning State is what ultimately counts . Cen10 got this game but I would think MD will make them pay by playoff time . What a game next week vs BG
Another nice win for MV.Lincoln looks to be very good again they were winning this game in the second half
When is the last time Mater Dei had a UMass commit at RB?......
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Sep 12, 2025, 10:37 PMCen10's loss to SM is definitely throwing off algorithms. As much as I would love to see every poll put them at #11; I still think they're at the very LEAST #2.
I like how
@Omaha Vol has them at #4.... They play BG next week, and they get to play SJB so they can get back to #1 by winning those games....
If MD beats BG, that will also pull RSM, MV and Cen10 up in the polls for them... That's a Big game next week!...
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Sep 12, 2025, 10:10 PMGreat win for Centennial. Of course, it has absolutely zero bearing on the mythical "national championship" as that has been reserved for whoever wins the second Mater Dei-SJB game. IMO, there's a good chance we'll have a 2-loss national champion. SJB will defeat Mater Dei in the first game. But, the 2-loss Monarchs will avenge that loss in the Open Bowl title game and win their 417th consecutive national championship.
Your mouth to Gods ears. lol
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Sep 12, 2025, 10:10 PMGreat win for Centennial. Of course, it has absolutely zero bearing on the mythical "national championship" as that has been reserved for whoever wins the second Mater Dei-SJB game. IMO, there's a good chance we'll have a 2-loss national champion. SJB will defeat Mater Dei in the first game. But, the 2-loss Monarchs will avenge that loss in the Open Bowl title game and win their 417th consecutive national championship.
And that's why HS football has never been more interesting.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 12, 2025, 10:32 PMI actually think MD will be fine in the end if that MD team that showed up in the second half shows up to every game.... If they lose 1 more game though, Lara may not make it through the season... 🤣
I don't think MD plays like this under Rollo. I just don't. I like Lara but he doesn't seem to be a 'attention to every detail' coach like Rollo was. There have been transfers that played more cohesively than this team does IMO.
Quote from: World Citizen on Sep 15, 2025, 07:26 PMI don't think MD plays like this under Rollo. I just don't. I like Lara but he doesn't seem to be a 'attention to every detail' coach like Rollo was. There have been transfers that played more cohesively than this team does IMO.
Totally! Agree!.... They need a real MD guy there, Lara is not it.... You can be the Alumni are not happy at all.... But that's what happens when your Principal is a Servite guy and your HFB Coach is a LBP guy.... 🤣
Meanwhile.
Sierra Canyon has only given up 7 points in 4 games.
Legit or Pretender?
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 16, 2025, 11:28 AMMeanwhile.
Sierra Canyon has only given up 7 points in 4 games.
Legit or Pretender?
I think they are legit and they are probably the best team in California right now.
I like this guy too ..
https://247sports.com/player/havon-finney-46142251/
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 16, 2025, 11:28 AMMeanwhile.
Sierra Canyon has only given up 7 points in 4 games.
Legit or Pretender?
Those are all Bad teams, means nothing, their Schedule is really weak.....
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 16, 2025, 11:31 AMI think they are legit and they are probably the best team in California right now.
I like this guy too ..
https://247sports.com/player/havon-finney-46142251/
We will find out if they are legit or not this week when they play OLU....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 16, 2025, 03:40 PMThose are all Bad teams, means nothing, their Schedule is really weak.....
You obviously are not aware of Sierra Canyon's "Kaboom Squad".
Defense
DL Texas commit
DL 20 offers
DL 16 offers
LB 4 offers
DB LSU commit
DB USC commit
DB USC commit
DB Kansas commit
DB 20 offers
DB 14 offers
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 16, 2025, 05:34 PMYou obviously are not aware of Sierra Canyon's "Kaboom Squad".
Defense
DL Texas commit
DL 20 offers
DL 16 offers
LB 4 offers
DB LSU commit
DB USC commit
DB USC commit
DB Kansas commit
DB 20 offers
DB 14 offers
HA!.... KABOOM Squad!.... That's awesome!!.... 🤣
Sounds like they are really good, when they beat someone of note, I will take notice.... Last Year Folsom Supposedly had 20 guys with D1 Offers/Commitments including a D lineman committed to Texas who was an absolute monster.... The best they could do was lose to a 6 loss Serra team and lose to PITT who I think had 4 or 5 D1 players and bouncing Folsom in the D1AA Nor Cal Regional game....
With all that talent they should Dominate OLU so if they do that, I will take notice.... Unfortunately after that, their schedule stinks so we won't know until the D1 playoffs... The good news is, they will get their chance to prove themselves there against MD, Cen10, SJB, MV, RSM, etc....
It's possible this Sierra Canyon defense could have 7 USC commits on it ....of course a couple would have to flip, but it's possible.
Kaboom!
On paper OLU shouldn't get very many first downs. 💪👍 👇
McCallie up on mission Viejo 18-7 late 3rd.Stream on YouTube Mcallie football
MV has long TD called back for Offensive pass interference
Wow this game is getting strange
Long pass caught by MV that looked either incomplete or intercepted now two straight penalties on MV
MV another penalty they have gone from mcallie 35 to their own 42
4th qrt
4th straight penalty on MV
MV punting
Mcallie driving
TD Mcallie and that will just about do it 25-7 with 7min left
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 19, 2025, 06:04 PMTD Mcallie and that will just about do it 25-7 with 7min left
Wow, surprising score. Did the officiating seem neutral?
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 19, 2025, 06:06 PMWow, surprising score. Did the officiating seem neutral?
Yeah MV seemed frustrated.The couldn't run the ball and had trouble stopping the run
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 19, 2025, 06:09 PMYeah MV seemed frustrated.The couldn't run the ball and had trouble stopping the run
Sounds like the St. John's College game they lost a few years ago on the road. It wasn't raining was it? lol
MV scores with 3min left 25-14
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 19, 2025, 06:11 PMSounds like the St. John's College game they lost a few years ago on the road. It wasn't raining was it? lol
No nice night over there
Not a great look for Mission Viejo tonight losing to 1 loss McCallie.......it happens.
I watched the first half and to be honest Mission Viejo didn't look good at all.
Note to self:
Don't trust teams from California unless Thing 1 or Thing 2.
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Sep 19, 2025, 06:27 PMNote to self:
Don't trust teams from California unless Thing 1 or Thing 2.
Could probably say the same for Texas if they ever left the state...
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 19, 2025, 06:32 PMCould probably say the same for Texas if they ever left the state...
😁😁 Touche'
I think a lot of people forget how difficult it is for high school teams to travel and win big games. MD/SJB/SFA/IMG make it look easy for the most part but then "normal" teams try it and it typically doesn't go so well.
MV, St. Joseph's Prep and the Jersey schools are prime examples.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 16, 2025, 06:03 PMIt's possible this Sierra Canyon defense could have 7 USC commits on it ....of course a couple would have to flip, but it's possible.
Kaboom!
On paper OLU shouldn't get very many first downs. 💪👍 👇
Lol. Not even close. SJB is the team to beat in this state.
End of 1st qrt 7-0 BG
Anyone else having issues getting the MaxPreps stream to load?
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 19, 2025, 07:40 PMAnyone else having issues getting the MaxPreps stream to load?
11-7 MD
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 19, 2025, 07:40 PMAnyone else having issues getting the MaxPreps stream to load?
NHFS is total bust. Nothing. Sucks that I am paying 10 a month or whatever and the best streams are free. Novel.
Dang. Can't keep doing that every week.
SJB 28 - St Louis HI 7 Half
Been a sloppy game so far. St Louis had first and goal twice and failed to score. SJB blocked a punt and then with 8 seconds left in the half, stripped the ball on a sack and returned it for a TD. Lots of penalties on both sides as well. Game has been chippy. There was a facemask penalty on a spike to stop the clock. Lol, never seen that before...
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 19, 2025, 07:40 PMAnyone else having issues getting the MaxPreps stream to load?
The majority of high profile games will be on YouTube nowadays
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Sep 19, 2025, 08:11 PMThe majority of high profile games will be on YouTube nowadays
Appreciate it. Try to give us technological turtles a heads up ahead of time. :P A thousand thank You's in advance.
14-14 half time
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 19, 2025, 06:39 PMI think a lot of people forget how difficult it is for high school teams to travel and win big games. MD/SJB/SFA/IMG make it look easy for the most part but then "normal" teams try it and it typically doesn't go so well.
MV, St. Joseph's Prep and the Jersey schools are prime examples.
Not to be overly critical, but Mission Viejo was not supposed to be a normal team.
MaxPreps has Mission Viejo #2 in California and #6 Nationally........
Their shenanigans cost me a pick in Pick Em'.
21-21 end of 3rd qrt
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 19, 2025, 06:39 PMI think a lot of people forget how difficult it is for high school teams to travel and win big games. MD/SJB/SFA/IMG make it look easy for the most part but then "normal" teams try it and it typically doesn't go so well.
MV, St. Joseph's Prep and the Jersey schools are prime examples.
MV has been getting way too much Luv I. The Polls and Computers.... If you watched that game against RSM, RSM looked like the better team and should have won....
What I haven't liked about MV is their Inability to run the ball consistently and control the line of Scrimmage with their OLine.... Their OLine is not a Top 10 OLine, Not even sure Top 25.... I am definitely shocked they lost, I had them 10 in my Pick'em, but it's not suprising having watched them play this year.... 🤣
#15 for MD is Just Rediculously Good!.... 🤣
Lara is not smart
What a Dumb Ass Call by Lara!!!... How do you go for 2 right there???.... 🤣🤣
Very strange call for two.
I don't get it.
12 men on the field for MD on the Kickoff.... Lara is a Mess.... 🤣
MD Drops what would have been a Huge INT!!!!
I think you're supposed to run the ball in that situation.
Terrible sack.
Wow!.... Huge Sack by BG.... What is MD doing?.... Their Offense is terrible.... Throw it to #15 and Pray!.... 🤣
Lara really does some strange things as a coach
Wow!.., Great play by MD!!!.... Huge Bapunce back for them after that loss to Cen10!.... If This MD Team shows up, they won't be beat.... But the can be out coached because Lara makes some some decisions, he got bailed out by his Takent and the Refs tonight.... 🤣
MD wins 27-24
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 19, 2025, 09:32 PMLara makes some some decisions, he got bailed out by his Takent and the Refs tonight.... 🤣
Like going for 2 near the end when you were up by 3.🤦
That was a statement game!
Quote from: Bodysurf on Sep 19, 2025, 09:49 PMLike going for 2 near the end when you were up by 3.🤦
That was a statement game!
HA!!.... That was. Great Win!!... I said last week that I saw MD winning this game, for some reason they were just sleepwalking through the Fist 3 games until they finally woke up in the second half against Cen10....
This is going to make for a wild run up to the SSD1 playoffs... If MD plays like they did tonight, I don't see anyone beating them.... SJB is the only team that has a chance....
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 19, 2025, 06:39 PMI think a lot of people forget how difficult it is for high school teams to travel and win big games. MD/SJB/SFA/IMG make it look easy for the most part but then "normal" teams try it and it typically doesn't go so well.
MV, St. Joseph's Prep and the Jersey schools are prime examples.
Don Bosco back in the Toal years were always formidable OOS
Quote from: wosinc on Sep 19, 2025, 10:27 PMDon Bosco back in the Toal years were always formidable OOS
Sure, but I was talking last decade...
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 19, 2025, 09:59 PMHA!!.... That was. Great Win!!... I said last week that I saw MD winning this game, for some reason they were just sleepwalking through the Fist 3 games until they finally woke up in the second half against Cen10....
This is going to make for a wild run up to the SSD1 playoffs... If MD plays like they did tonight, I don't see anyone beating them.... SJB is the only team that has a chance....
Don't sleep on Sierra Canyon.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Sep 19, 2025, 09:49 PMThat was a statement game!
That's a self-serving statement if there ever was one.
What exactly was the statement!
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 20, 2025, 05:24 AMWhat exactly was the statement!
That we shouldn't be dismissed and we are not as bad as many people were saying this past week.
It's nice when a team has 35 D1 athletes and can make a statement!
Well done.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Sep 20, 2025, 04:08 AMDon't sleep on Sierra Canyon.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Sep 20, 2025, 04:08 AMDon't sleep on Sierra Canyon.
Definitely not sleeping on The Kaboom Squad after their dismantling of OLU, but this years OLU is not the same as the last 2 years, they lost all their talent.... So I am not ready to put SC in the MD/SJB National top 10 level.... The playoffs will tell the Story of SC this year, their schedule stinks...
Just like last year, everyone was all over MV and they were Bounced in their first playoff game by Cen10.... 🤣
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 19, 2025, 09:13 PMLara is not smart
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 19, 2025, 09:13 PMWhat a Dumb Ass Call by Lara!!!... How do you go for 2 right there???.... 🤣🤣
Come on Lara is ahead of all of us. Forward thinking right there. Sure, conventional wisdom says if you go up by 1 late go for 2 to make it a 3 point game or up by 5 go for 2 to make it touchdown to tie. But Laura was pulling a Don Shula, Bill Walsh way ahead of all of us. I mean, who says why go up by 4 late in the game, what if the Bishop gets a safety and then a field goal that's five points so let's get up by five points so in that situation the best they could do is tie us 😂😂.
Quote from: Cossacks on Sep 20, 2025, 08:55 AM
Come on Lara is ahead of all of us. Forward thinking right there. Sure, conventional wisdom says if you go up by 1 late go for 2 to make it a 3 point game or up by 5 go for 2 to make it touchdown to tie. But Laura was pulling a Don Shula, Bill Walsh way ahead of all of us. I mean, who says why go up by 4 late in the game, what if the Bishop gets a safety and then a field goal that's five points so let's get up by five points so in that situation the best they could do is tie us 😂😂.
My read on this is that Lara has MD do the swinging gate or 2 pt setup every time regardless of game circumstance and then leaves up to the players to execute when they get the right configuration. That may not be the case, but could explain why they did it in this circumstance. Obviously, always leaving it as an option on the table regardless of game circumstance is a bewildering coaching decision to put it lightly.
Quote from: Cossacks on Sep 20, 2025, 08:55 AM
Come on Lara is ahead of all of us. Forward thinking right there. Sure, conventional wisdom says if you go up by 1 late go for 2 to make it a 3 point game or up by 5 go for 2 to make it touchdown to tie. But Laura was pulling a Don Shula, Bill Walsh way ahead of all of us. I mean, who says why go up by 4 late in the game, what if the Bishop gets a safety and then a field goal that's five points so let's get up by five points so in that situation the best they could do is tie us 😂😂.
Yeah super weird thinking by Lara.Kicking the XP not only puts you up by 4 and forces BG to score a TD but it also keeps you within a FG if they do score a TD. Very strange thinking
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 20, 2025, 09:05 AMMy read on this is that Lara has MD do the swinging gate or 2 pt setup every time regardless of game circumstance and then leaves up to the players to execute when they get the right configuration. That may not be the case, but could explain why they did it in this circumstance. Obviously, always leaving it as an option on the table regardless of game circumstance is a bewildering coaching decision to put it lightly.
Possibly? But if any coach is going to give his players that discretion, you would think he would also at least have them coached up to do some basic arithmetic or at worst just tell them to "kick it". Coach Lara needs to talk to coach Logan who has now mastered the art of the kicking game 😂
Quote from: Cossacks on Sep 20, 2025, 09:45 AMPossibly? But if any coach is going to give his players that discretion, you would think he would also at least have them coached up to do some basic arithmetic or at worst just tell them to "kick it". Coach Lara needs to talk to coach Logan who has now mastered the art of the kicking game 😂
HA!!... Defiantly!!.... Can you imagine what would have happened if BG hit that FG to tie it or even worse, scored a TD and MD lost that game?..... Mater Dei would have left Lara on the Tarmac in Vegas.... 🤣
The top ten in Cali for me
SJB
MD
SC
Cent10
MV
DLS
SM
Lincoln
OLU
Cathedral Catholic
Quote from: Ararar on Sep 20, 2025, 02:33 PMThe top ten in Cali for me
SJB
MD
SC
Cent10
MV
DLS
SM
Lincoln
OLU
Cathedral Catholic
Really looking forward to DLS vs SDCC in 2 weeks!.... I will be at that one!.... Going to be a big test for Both teams.... A lot on the Line for DLS, if they lose this game it could knock them out of The Open game....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Sep 20, 2025, 07:40 PMReally looking forward to DLS vs SDCC in 2 weeks!.... I will be at that one!.... Going to be a big test for Both teams.... A lot on the Line for DLS, if they lose this game it could knock them out of The Open game....
I think DLS wins comfortably.
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Sep 20, 2025, 11:00 PMI think DLS wins comfortably.
I hope you are right!.... 🤣
DLS top lineman why plays both ways got injured in the last game and didn't come back in, not sure if it was a precaution because they were so far ahead or if the injury is that bad....
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Sep 20, 2025, 11:00 PMI think DLS wins comfortably.
Not sure about that. Injuries may play a big part and DLS isn't very deep. Lose 1 or 2 to injuries and that puts them in a tough situation. And they just can't pass with any consistency at all. Crap shoot. They play hard on D so that gives them a chance.
BG 7 SM 0 2nd qrt
What's going on with Mater Dei?..... only up 7-3 on Orange Lutheran at halftime.
Is Orange Lutheran good again? 😁
Sierra Canyon bringing the Kaboom, but not much offense tonight.
Up 9-0 2nd.......
3 FGs
SJB up 49-14 on JSerra in the 2nd quarter. Got the back up QB in already taking reps.
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 03, 2025, 08:06 PMWhat's going on with Mater Dei?..... only up 7-3 on Orange Lutheran at halftime.
Is Orange Lutheran good again? 😁
Better than Lousiana top 5 teams Neville and Baton Rouge Catholic who both lost to random Mississippi teams. Neville got a running clock put on them by a team who wasn't even top 10 in the state: and the top Mississippi media paper didn't even have them top 10 in their class! And they beat a top 5 Lousiana team via the running clock!
So it's kind of hollow seeing some pussy from Louisiana try and shit on power teams from power states who play more top quality competition in the last few weeks than the entire state of Louisiana has in the last decade
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 03, 2025, 08:06 PMWhat's going on with Mater Dei?..... only up 7-3 on Orange Lutheran at halftime.
Is Orange Lutheran good again? 😁
This must be the Orange Lutheran that running clocked Miami Northwestern.... ....
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 03, 2025, 08:20 PMThis must be the Orange Lutheran that running clocked Miami Northwestern.... ....
Yeah 17-13 is a running clock. OLu is 33rd in the Nation. How many top 50 teams has Louisiana played in the last 5 years? 10 years? Name them?
Florida loses to teams like Mater Dei, SFA, BG etc etc. Lousiana loses to teams like Oak Grove and Ridgeland Academy. LMAO! There is a big difference!!!
This is what happens when a top 5 Louisiana team plays a not top 10 Mississippi team. LMAO!
https://www.maxpreps.com/m/games/9-19-2025/football-25/neville-vs-oak-grove.htm?c=WdtQvoY6g02T2LAa8LB2nQ#tab=box-score&schoolid=
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Oct 03, 2025, 08:22 PMFlorida loses to teams like Mater Dei, SFA, BG etc etc. Lousiana loses to teams like Oak Grove and Ridgeland Academy. LMAO! There is a big difference!!!
And Stephenville 😎
No offense
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Oct 03, 2025, 08:30 PMAnd Stephenville 😎
No offense
Bro I'm done with Louisiana! That is some garbage football! STEPHENVILLE!!!!!!
Awe man! Stephenville was up 28-6 late in the 4th and Ruston scored a garbage TD at the very end.
so that's 2 top 4 Lousiana teams getting dragged by obscure no name OOS teams. Lol.
STEPHENVILLE!!!! I'm out. Time for some shut eye
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Oct 03, 2025, 08:30 PMAnd Stephenville 😎
No offense
This ass clown goes from thread to thread calling out teams for losing to real OOS teams. Crapping on MV for losing to McCallie. But then 3 top 5 Louisiana teams get dragged and beat by OOS teams who would get KILLED by MV and McCallie
That's next level scumbaggery right there!
28-7 DLS over SDCC in the Third Quarter....
Mater Dei doesn't seem to be separating.
Hmmm .....
Corona del Mar 24 - San Juan Hills 3 (3rd quarter)
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 03, 2025, 09:06 PMCorona del Mar 24 - San Juan Hills 3 (3rd quarter)
Does theis mean Corona Del Mar is Equal to TX 6A Teams?.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Oct 03, 2025, 10:08 PMDoes theis mean Corona Del Mar is Equal to TX 6A Teams?.... 🤣
Based on this result, looks like they would be a top 15 team in the state of Texas...
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 03, 2025, 10:43 PMBased on this result, looks like they would be a top 15 team in the state of Texas...
HA!... Are they even a Top 50 team in CA?.... 🤣
They didn't even make the playoffs last year, that's what's so hard about figuring out CA teams.... They can have huge Swings from year to year... The most consistent are Privates, a few public's are there but not Tier 1....
That what I miss most about the old PAC-5 in so cal.... The Public's were just as competitive with the Privates and there were always several teams that could win it.... It was really fun HSFB to watch.... 🤣🍻
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 03, 2025, 10:43 PMBased on this result, looks like they would be a top 15 team in the state of Texas...
I would love to see this logic. 😦😃
Ruston has a win over #11 at the time Longview, TX.
Longview just crunched the #12 team in Texas last night.
Ruston would definitely be a Top 15 Texas team.
San Juan Hills, CA loses to Rockwell Heath, TX, but, but. another California team just beat San Juan Hills making that team a Top 15 team in Texas. lol
God bless the internet!
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 04, 2025, 04:24 AMI would love to see this logic. 😦😃
Ruston has a win over #11 at the time Longview, TX.
Longview just crunched the #12 team in Texas last night.
Ruston would definitely be a Top 15 Texas team.
San Juan Hills, CA loses to Rockwell Heath, TX, but, but. another California team just beat San Juan Hills making that team a Top 15 team in Texas. lol
God bless the internet!
We watched the game. Ruston was getting home cooking all night. And they needed a miracle walk off field goal to win. As the number 2 team in the state. Longview is a fringe top 25 TX team. This is why it's asinine to have any Louisiana team ahead of the top 10 TX teams. They would get destroyed. Karr in the top 25 nationally is a farce. They needed home cooking and their opponent to have a WR who never took a snap at QB to squeak by in overtime. And that's the best the state has to offer? Along with Neville, Catholic, and Ruston all being top 5 in the state and getting dog walked by no name OOS teams? Man get out here with that bullshit. Louisiana is small off brand football
You know that Louisiana is small offbrand football when their top ranked team John Curtis gets five threads about playing and beating the 70th California team the same way that the 60th California team did. Lol.I
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 04, 2025, 04:24 AMI would love to see this logic. 😦😃
Ruston has a win over #11 at the time Longview, TX.
Longview just crunched the #12 team in Texas last night.
Ruston would definitely be a Top 15 Texas team.
San Juan Hills, CA loses to Rockwell Heath, TX, but, but. another California team just beat San Juan Hills making that team a Top 15 team in Texas. lol
God bless the internet!
You were the one proclaiming that San Juan Hills was a top whatever team in CA, we all told you they weren't that good.... They just lost to a team that didn't even make the playoffs last year, we were right and you have no clue.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Oct 04, 2025, 10:41 AMYou were the one proclaiming that San Juan Hills was a top whatever team in CA, we all told you they weren't that good.... They just lost to a team that didn't even make the playoffs last year, we were right and you have no clue.... 🤣
Nope, That's simply isn't true either.
I just reported what other people said about San Juan Hills, their ranking last year and their preseason ranking this year.
That's all.
My intention wasn't to make California people tense up. 😮😭
Take the X!
Quote from: TheOC89 on Oct 04, 2025, 10:41 AMYou were the one proclaiming that San Juan Hills was a top whatever team in CA, we all told you they weren't that good.... They just lost to a team that didn't even make the playoffs last year, we were right and you have no clue.... 🤣
He took some meaningless info that meant nothing to no one, and peddled it like it was gospel. The dictionary definition of propaganda. Hes intentionally ignoring people who follow this area closely because it doesn't fit his narrative but waits on hand and knees for his marching orders from pencil necks with a deadline for info. Hes a clown that can never be taken seriously. He's still reeling that 2 of his top 4 teams both got dragged around last night by teams no one has ever heard of or cared about nationally. I think you call that coping. Lol.
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 04, 2025, 10:48 AMNope, That's simply isn't true either.
I just reported what other people said about San Juan Hills, their ranking last year and their preseason ranking this year.
That's all.
My intention wasn't to make California people tense up. 😮😭
Take the X!
This is hilarious! You're a blowhard when it comes to hyping up inferior OOS teams and, yes, you did intend to make the Cali guys tense up.
Reading through these posts today is amusing. Nolebull is absolutely destroying you, swamp turd.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Oct 03, 2025, 10:08 PMDoes theis mean Corona Del Mar is Equal to TX 6A Teams?.... 🤣
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 03, 2025, 10:43 PMBased on this result, looks like they would be a top 15 team in the state of Texas...
Mr CompPoll, how do we go about getting some more reactions added? For sure a laughing one and a WTF??? one. LOl. I would gladly help pay since you brought us all back together.
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Oct 04, 2025, 01:17 PMThis is hilarious! You're a blowhard when it comes to hyping up inferior OOS teams and, yes, you did intend to make the Cali guys tense up.
Reading through these posts today is amusing. Nolebull is absolutely destroying you, swamp turd.
And you wonder why NO one reads or comments in your hillbilly poll thread every week....... on 2 different forums at that. Why do you bother?
You really are desperate as Gaybob813.
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 04, 2025, 08:18 PMAnd you wonder why NO one reads or comments in your hillbilly poll thread every week....... on 2 different forums at that. Why do you bother?
You really are desperate as Gaybob813.
There are far more comments in your threads because people on here can't contain themselves when they see such a terrible poll. Most of the posts in your threads are you talking to yourself, swamp turd.
P.S. I see Nolebull still lives in your head rent free.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Oct 04, 2025, 07:39 PMMr CompPoll, how do we go about getting some more reactions added? For sure a laughing one and a WTF??? one. LOl. I would gladly help pay since you brought us all back together.
I did look into it awhile back. I think there might be some extensions I can install to add different reactions. I'll try to carve out some time and see if I can make that happen soon...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zUDjCAWfszI&si=LEwzzhm2aU_fVTSB
Ok this was 🤪
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 05, 2025, 06:52 PMhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=zUDjCAWfszI&si=LEwzzhm2aU_fVTSB
Ok this was 🤪
That's great!
Good stuff!
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 05, 2025, 06:54 PMThat's great!
Good stuff!
I laughed hard
I guess if you want to point out what the other teams doing you get super petty
How many teams will make the California Open Division Playoffs and what could the seedings possibly look like?
Is there a website with this information?
In Louisiana we have power ratings.
D1 Select (5A private basically) which consists of private, charter and open enrollment schools will have 24 teams make the playoffs.... and we can follow along with the weekly power ratings that come out every week like polls. I already have a great idea of what our D1 Select playoffs will look like.
Just curious if there is such an animal in California.
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 06, 2025, 07:33 AMHow many teams will make the California Open Division Playoffs and what could the seedings possibly look like?
Is there a website with this information?
The current CIFSS playoff agreement is to use the current year CalPreps/HSRatings as the power ratings for determining the divisional playoff team placements (along with some additional requirements based on league placement and overall record for at-large qualifications). There is technically no set number of teams for the CIFSS D1 playoffs. The number of teams placed in D1 is up to the discretion of the SS playoff committee. In 2021, 2023 and 2024 there were 8 teams in D1. In 2022 there were 10 teams. I think theoretically you could see anywhere from 4 to 16 teams, though it will likely be somewhere around 8 teams (based on historical precedence).
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 06, 2025, 10:08 AMThe current CIFSS playoff agreement is to use the current year CalPreps/HSRatings as the power ratings for determining the divisional playoff team placements (along with some additional requirements based on league placement and overall record for at-large qualifications). There is technically no set number of teams for the CIFSS D1 playoffs. The number of teams placed in D1 is up to the discretion of the SS playoff committee. In 2021, 2023 and 2024 there were 8 teams in D1. In 2022 there were 10 teams. I think theoretically you could see anywhere from 4 to 16 teams, though it will likely be somewhere around 8 teams (based on historical precedence).
That's interesting and I guess it's a big mystery then. I don't fully understand why they can't set a consistent team limit. How hard would that be?
I keep hearing about California teams being lowly D2 division teams.
According to this information lots of teams could possibly miss the Open Playoffs by the thinnest of margins.
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 06, 2025, 10:34 AMThat's interesting and I guess it's a big mystery then. I don't fully understand why they can't set a consistent team limit. How hard would that be?
I keep hearing about California teams being lowly D2 division teams.
According to this information lots of teams could possibly miss the Open Playoffs by the thinnest of margins.
If there is a thin margin between #8 and #9 the CIFSS committee will likely put #9 in D1 instead of D2. That's the entire reason for having flexibility in D1 instead of it being a set number of teams.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 06, 2025, 10:48 AMIf there is a thin margin between #8 and #9 the CIFSS committee will likely put #9 in D1 instead of D2. That's the entire reason for having flexibility in D1 instead of it being a set number of teams.
I understand.
But you can still be a Top 10 California team and be classified as a lowly Division 2 team for OOS game purposes.
"Oh man, they were garbage didn't even make the Open Playoffs last year" 😭
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 06, 2025, 11:04 AMBut you can still be a Top 10 California team and be classified as a lowly Division 2 team for OOS game purposes.
The Southern Section is just one section in California. It's pretty rare that the top 10 teams in the state are all in the Southern Section. Yes most of the big names (SJB, MD, Centennial, etc.) are in the Southern Section but not all of the best teams in the state are (for example De La Salle). Typically, your top teams in the CIFSS D2 playoffs are end up being in the top 20-15 in the state depending on which ranking service you are referencing. One thing to consider with CalPreps/HSRatings is that they use the concept of playoff bumps, so the team that ends up winning D2 will usually get a good ratings bump by virtue of winning their divisional playoff bracket then potential bowl game and state title game. They may end up starting the playoffs being rated #16 in the state and end up the #5 team in the state according to CalPreps, but if they were placed in the CIFSS D1 bracket they would likely have lost their first game to one of the "big names" and stayed as #16 in the state due to the lack of "playoff bump" Ned uses in his ratings system.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 06, 2025, 11:20 AMThe Southern Section is just one section in California. It's pretty rare that the top 10 teams in the state are all in the Southern Section. Yes most of the big names (SJB, MD, Centennial, etc.) are in the Southern Section but not all of the best teams in the state are (for example De La Salle). Typically, your top teams in the CIFSS D2 playoffs are end up being in the top 20-15 in the state depending on which ranking service you are referencing. One thing to consider with CalPreps/HSRatings is that they use the concept of playoff bumps, so the team that ends up winning D2 will usually get a good ratings bump by virtue of winning their divisional playoff bracket then potential bowl game and state title game. They may end up starting the playoffs being rated #16 in the state and end up the #5 team in the state according to CalPreps, but if they were placed in the CIFSS D1 bracket they would likely have lost their first game to one of the "big names" and stayed as #16 in the state due to the lack of "playoff bump" Ned uses in his ratings system.
.....4-5 Trinity League teams, Sierra Canyon, Centennial, Mission Viejo and DLS...... Who else is in?
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 06, 2025, 12:43 PM.....4-5 Trinity League teams, Sierra Canyon, Centennial, Mission Viejo and DLS...... Who else is in?
There is no "Open" Playoffs..... The Winner of Southern Section D1 which is 8 to 15 teams depending on the Committee.... And the Nor Cal "Choice" for the open which is the winner of the NCS, CCS or SJS depending on who the Committee likes based on Record, rankings, schedule strength, etc..... This year it will be DLS unless they somehow lose in their way to the NCS championship.....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Oct 06, 2025, 07:05 PMThere is no "Open" Playoffs..... .
Open Division 1 then
Just leave off "playoffs".
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 07, 2025, 05:11 AMOpen Division 1 then
Just leave off "playoffs".
Give it up. This is way over your head. You can't comprehend anything. Do you know comprehend means?
If SM had any offense they would be scary
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 10, 2025, 08:17 PMIf SM had any offense they would be scary
Can they put their head coach in to play QB?
SJB 28 - OLU 0 (Half)
I think OLU has had maybe 40 yards of offense. They have punted every possession. Koa to Madden Williams has been unstoppable so far. Braves also threw in a wrinkle and ran a few plays with RB Ashton Keyes in the wildcat - most likely to force SM/MD staff to spend time prepping for it. Braves get the ball to start 2nd half. I'm expecting a running clock in the 4th.
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 10, 2025, 08:17 PMIf SM had any offense they would be scary
That was an Awful Series for RSM.... They pick off MD and have 1st and goal inside the 10.... They get an Unsportsmanlike penalty to move them back to the 25.... A Bad Shuffle pass play, a botched hand off in 1st and second down, then a terrible pass in the end zone into double coverage for an MD pick....
You are not beating MD with that nonsense.... Defense looks great, Offense can't do anything.... 🤣
OLU blocks SJB XP with 0:00 left in 3Q to keep it 34-0. Literally running clock blocked.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 10, 2025, 09:00 PMOLU blocks SJB XP with 0:00 left in 3Q to keep it 34-0. Literally running clock blocked.
HA!!!.... Running Clock Blocked.... 🤣
Wow!!... TD RSM!!!.... 7-6 RSM!!.... 🤣
MD's QB is awful
Quote from: Steeler01 on Oct 10, 2025, 09:17 PMMD's QB is awful
Agree!.... He has been bad all year.... He just throws 50/50 balls and runs.... He turns the ball over a lot....
I wonder if they let Lara on the Bus back to the school after this.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Oct 10, 2025, 09:31 PMI wonder if they let Lara on the Bus back to the school after this.... 🤣
Would Lara even want to get on the bus?
Quote from: TheOC89 on Oct 10, 2025, 09:31 PMI wonder if they let Lara on the Bus back to the school after this.... 🤣
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Oct 10, 2025, 09:37 PMWould Lara even want to get on the bus?
HA!!... All he needs to do at this point is to lose to Servite and seal the deal!... 🤣
With 2 losses to So Cal teams this year and they haven't even played SJB yet, The MD Boosters and Alums can't be happy... Especially since Lara is not a MD Guy....
Quote from: Steeler01 on Oct 10, 2025, 09:17 PMMD's QB is awful
Mater Dei QB Ryan Hopkins was very good against STA and Bishop Gorman.
The Mater Dei OL just got completely bullied last night.
Mater Dei went nowhere all night long. Brutal!
They were lucky to get 6 points!
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 11, 2025, 05:39 AMMater Dei QB Ryan Hopkins was very good against STA and Bishop Gorman.
The Mater Dei OL just got completely bullied last night.
Mater Dei went nowhere all night long. Brutal!
They were lucky to get 6 points!
No, he was not good vs STA. I called him out in that game as well.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Oct 11, 2025, 07:29 AMNo, he was not good vs STA. I called him out in that game as well.
He wasn't bad. Lots of high school QBs would have loved shredding that Florida Power defense
That cat was on fire in the 2nd quarter...
In a nationally-televised matchup on ESPN, the future Badger flashed his offensive brilliance, completing 13 passes for 272 passing yards and three touchdowns. A bulk of his production arrived in the second quarter, a period during which Mater Dei scored 26 unanswered points to take a 26-3 edge before intermission.
Specifically, Hopkins completed eight of his 14 first-half tosses for 232 yards. All three of his touchdowns arrived in the second quarter as well.
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 11, 2025, 07:42 AMHe wasn't bad. Lots of high school QBs would have loved shredding that Florida Power defense
That cat was on fire in the 2nd quarter...
He threw up a prayer in that game that Henry scored on. That was the highlight of MDs offense in that game.
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 11, 2025, 07:42 AMHe wasn't bad. Lots of high school QBs would have loved shredding that Florida Power defense
That cat was on fire in the 2nd quarter...
In a nationally-televised matchup on ESPN, the future Badger flashed his offensive brilliance, completing 13 passes for 272 passing yards and three touchdowns. A bulk of his production arrived in the second quarter, a period during which Mater Dei scored 26 unanswered points to take a 26-3 edge before intermission.
Specifically, Hopkins completed eight of his 14 first-half tosses for 232 yards. All three of his touchdowns arrived in the second quarter as well.
So he had about as good a game as Trot Jordan for STEPHENVILLE against Ruston.
Imagine your number 2 in the state gets knifed and carved by a guy name TROT!!!!!!!
Imagine this happening to your number 2 team by Stephenville
Stephenville shut the Bearcats out in the first half and did not allow them to get in the end zone until late in the fourth quarter.
Stephenville has a bye week next week before traveling to Marble Falls in district play. Ruston opens District 2-5A play against Ouachita Parish for its first in-state game since Week 1.
FOURTH QUARTER
-TOUCHDOWN RUSTON. The Bearcats are not going away as Hartwell hits Dalen Powell for a short touchdown pass. The extra point is no good. (Stephenville, 28-12).
-TOUCHDOWN STEPHENVILLE. Stephenville stops Ruston on the following drive and then goes on a methodical drive. McClendon runs it in from a yard out and the Yellow Jackets are 3:43 away from winning this game. (Stephenville, 28-6).
Looking at the rankings, Rockwell-Heath would be 3rd in Louisiana, and San Juan Hills would be 6th.
Keep that context when Red Flag tried and craps on these teams
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Oct 11, 2025, 01:12 PMLooking at the rankings, Rockwell-Heath would be 3rd in Louisiana, and San Juan Hills would be 6th.
Keep that context when Red Flag tried and craps on these teams
LOL!! That's a pathetic look for Lousyana. Sad part is it's true!
If the CIFSS D1 playoffs started today this is what the bracket would look like (assuming 8 teams in D1). Kinda wild to see SJB and MD on the same side of the bracket.
cif_d1.png
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Oct 11, 2025, 01:12 PMLooking at the rankings, Rockwell-Heath would be 3rd in Louisiana, and San Juan Hills would be 6th.
Keep that context when Red Flag tried and craps on these teams
According to the daisy chain Perriman would be 3rd In Louisiana. JC and Beaumont Ca both beat Cathedral Ca by similar scores.Beaumont just lost to Cajon who lost to Perriman Tx
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 11, 2025, 05:17 PMAccording to the daisy chain Perriman would be 3rd In Louisiana. JC and Beaumont Ca both beat Cathedral Ca by similar scores.Beaumont just lost to Cajon who lost to Perriman Tx
Sounds like Beaumont and Permian would be top 5 in Lousiana with Cajon and Cathedral not too far behind.
Lousiana is a garbage football state. I think they have like 2 teams in the top 200.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 04, 2025, 09:09 PMI did look into it awhile back. I think there might be some extensions I can install to add different reactions. I'll try to carve out some time and see if I can make that happen soon...
Thanks brother!! Much appreciated!
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 05, 2025, 07:09 PMI laughed hard
I guess if you want to point out what the other teams doing you get super petty
Which coach would of won the fight?
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 11, 2025, 01:48 PMIf the CIFSS D1 playoffs started today this is what the bracket would look like (assuming 8 teams in D1). Kinda wild to see SJB and MD on the same side of the bracket.
cif_d1.png
That is mos def a murders row of teams to get through. Its SJB's year and they will not be denied. SC might be able to slow them down some, but that's about it.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 11, 2025, 01:48 PMIf the CIFSS D1 playoffs started today this is what the bracket would look like (assuming 8 teams in D1). Kinda wild to see SJB and MD on the same side of the bracket.
cif_d1.png
SJB vs MD in the second round would only be like the 2nd time in the last 7-8 years that there would be no MD vs SJB final....
SJB scores in the first 3 plays from scrimmage against the vaunted SM Eagles defense. 7-0
SJB scores quickly again. 14-0 with 4 min left in the 1st quarter.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 17, 2025, 07:25 PMSJB scores quickly again. 14-0 with 4 min left in the 1st quarter.
People are talking about SSD1 being Competitive.... Not for SJB, they look really good.... I like their Sophmore QB.... Kid shows a lot of Poise back there....
You have to have a powerhouse offense to beat SJB, they are just too good....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Oct 17, 2025, 07:43 PMPeople are talking about SSD1 being Competitive.... Not for SJB, they look really good.... I like their Sophmore QB.... Kid shows a lot of Poise back there....
You have to have a powerhouse offense to beat SJB, they are just too good....
This is probably the best all around SJB team I can remember since 2018. The scary thing is they should be even better next year as their Junior class is probably the most loaded.
21-7 SJB
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 17, 2025, 07:46 PMThis is probably the best all around SJB team I can remember since 2018. The scary thing is they should be even better next year as their Junior class is probably the most loaded.
21-7 SJB
They look really good!.... They look Sharp and Diciplined.... Complete opposite of MD.... 🤣
SJB's D Line looks Bigger than RSM's O Line.... 🤣
Both these Teams D Lines are impressive!!!.... RSM's Defense needs some help from their offense....
Orage county refs doing their best to keep this from being a blowout. Negro has been heated all game, chewing out the entire crew, lol.
21-7 half
Disastrous Half for RSM.... Their Offense Stinks, other than #4 they can't generate any offense and SJB has taken Him out of the game at this point.... RSM really needed to score a TD but ended up with a missed FG instead.... 21-7 SJB at Half....
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 17, 2025, 08:24 PMOrage county refs doing their best to keep this from being a blowout. Negro has been heated all game, chewing out the entire crew, lol.
21-7 half
I think the Officials Think they are at a MD Game.... 🤣
The Ref's Literally cannot stop throwing Flags Against SJB and RSM scores in a 7 min Drive, 21-14 SJB.... 🤣
#4 in RSM is a great player, he is their only Offense, they are using him in the Wildcat formation because that a long with the Ref's help the only way they can move the ball.... 🤣🤣
It appears Santa Margarita is scrapping.
I don't do pay sites so I'm not able to watch it.
Anyone have a free link?
Sierra Canyon started off a little slowly, but they're rolling now.
38-10 3rd
SJB exerting their will on the lines. Getting huge lanes now.
27-14
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 17, 2025, 09:06 PMIt appears Santa Margarita is scrapping.
I don't do pay sites so I'm not able to watch it.
Anyone have a free link?
I am watching on Max Preps....
I'm seeing the Oregon game on MaxPreps.
Wow unbelievable home cooking for SM
Wow again
Playing with out your helmet is penalty
Except if you're SM at home
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 17, 2025, 09:37 PMWow unbelievable home cooking for SM
Some of the worst I've seen, lol. Game should be a running clock right now.
18 penalties called on SJB uhhhh make it 19
What a screw job going on in south Orange County
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 17, 2025, 09:55 PM18 penalties called on SJB uhhhh make it 19
What a screw job going on in south Orange County
Definitely!... That was Rediculous, Almost 20 penalties on 1 Team is impossible if you are calling the game "Both Ways".... 🤣
The refs were booed out of the stadium after the game. The SJB crowd wasn't happy, lmao.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 17, 2025, 11:08 PMThe refs were booed out of the stadium after the game. The SJB crowd wasn't happy, lmao.
The jail is literally across the street. Sounds like should just keep walking and turn themselves in.
I bet they had more yds in penalties than actual offensive yds.
the 4 Sheriffs literally escorted them to the locker room.
So Los Alamitos will be D2??
Quote from: BB Bos on Oct 17, 2025, 11:34 PMI bet they had more yds in penalties than actual offensive yds.
the 4 Sheriffs literally escorted them to the locker room.
SJB was penalized 20 times for 156 yards. SM had 3 penalties for 15 yards.
SM had 270 yards of total offense, 70 of which came on that one long run from Mosley. Most of their offensive yards also came on drives that were extended by flags thrown on SJB. There were 5 defensive holding calls that went against SJB, at least 2 of which erased sacks that almost certainly would have led to SM punts.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 18, 2025, 11:02 AMSJB was penalized 20 times for 156 yards. SM had 3 penalties for 15 yards.
SM had 270 yards of total offense, 70 of which came on that one long run from Mosley. Most of their offensive yards also came on drives that were extended by flags thrown on SJB. There were 5 defensive holding calls that went against SJB, at least 2 of which erased sacks that almost certainly would have led to SM punts.
They weren't trying to hide it at all and that was evidenced when the white hat picked up the flag on SM when a kid playing without his helmet recovered a fumble.
Is Norco D2, D3 or D4? 🤔
Ha! 🤣
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 24, 2025, 06:45 AMIs Norco D2, D3 or D4? 🤔
Ha! 🤣
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The 5-11 170 lb QB for Norco who has a Houston Christian offer threw 6 TD passes last night..
The 49 points was the most points scored on Centennial in a League game in 26 years.
"Centennial football team scores final 11 points to ward off upset bid by Norco"
Sounds like MaxPreps might be streaming some of the of CIF-SS playoff games:
QuoteSM: Then we'll get into the southern California playoffs and all that.
ZP: There might be some news coming out too.
SM: Ya, we got some fun stuff coming up, so stay tuned for some exciting news coming down the road in the Southern Section.
https://youtu.be/uD4zjXFC6DA?t=369
Quote from: Cossacks on Oct 17, 2025, 11:20 PMThe jail is literally across the street. Sounds like should just keep walking and turn themselves in.
LMAO!!! Almost drove into a parked car when I read this. ;D
:P
@Norcalnut GSB can't explain how an inferior OOS win outweighs a superior intrastate win, on account of that would destroy the majority of his logic for keeping Texas out of his poll.
He has been moving the goalposts more and more and calling him out on it,
Got us banned 😒
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 06, 2025, 10:08 AMThe current CIFSS playoff agreement is to use the current year CalPreps/HSRatings as the power ratings for determining the divisional playoff team placements (along with some additional requirements based on league placement and overall record for at-large qualifications). There is technically no set number of teams for the CIFSS D1 playoffs. The number of teams placed in D1 is up to the discretion of the SS playoff committee. In 2021, 2023 and 2024 there were 8 teams in D1. In 2022 there were 10 teams. I think theoretically you could see anywhere from 4 to 16 teams, though it will likely be somewhere around 8 teams (based on historical precedence).
This may have already been answered (I'm just now making my way through this thread). The SS doesn't like having anyone but an automatic qualifier (not an at-large team) be the #1 seed in D-II. It also seems that if they're going to add 1 "first round" game, they want 2 for balance. Unfortunate that Inglewood got dragged into D-I last year because of Servite.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 11, 2025, 01:48 PMIf the CIFSS D1 playoffs started today this is what the bracket would look like (assuming 8 teams in D1). Kinda wild to see SJB and MD on the same side of the bracket.
cif_d1.png
I believe the Trinity gets 4 automatic bids. Assuming OLu loses to Servite this week, they could qualify as an at-large. That should mean we will see 10 teams in D-I again this year.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Oct 28, 2025, 01:06 PMI believe the Trinity gets 4 automatic bids. Assuming OLu loses to Servite this week, they could qualify as an at-large. That should mean we will see 10 teams in D-I again this year.
Trinity only has 3 AQs by virtue of being a 6 team league.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 28, 2025, 01:10 PMTrinity only has 3 AQs by virtue of being a 6 team league.
Is Murrieta Valley currently the #9 team? I don't have an hsratings membership. If they are, they will likely be bumped to D-I and the 10th team along with them (at least). According to Maxpreps, that could be Crean Lutheran.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Oct 28, 2025, 01:23 PMIs Murrieta Valley currently the #9 team? I don't have an hsratings membership. If they are, they will likely be bumped to D-I and the 10th team along with them (at least). According to Maxpreps, that could be Crean Lutheran.
8. Orange Lutheran - 63.4
9. Murrieta Valley - 55.1
10. Chapparal - 51.3
11. Vista Murrieta - 50.9
12. San Clemente - 50.4
13. Los Alamitos - 49.7
14. Corona del Mar - 49.4
15. Crean Lutheran - 48.7
16. JSerra - 47.8
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Oct 28, 2025, 01:30 PM8. Orange Lutheran - 63.4
9. Murrieta Valley - 55.1
10. Chapparal - 51.3
11. Vista Murrieta - 50.9
12. San Clemente - 50.4
13. Los Alamitos - 49.7
14. Corona del Mar - 49.4
15. Crean Lutheran - 48.7
16. JSerra - 47.8
Thanks.
This will likely end up being very interesting. MV plays Roosevelt (should win that). VM plays Norco (probably wins that). Chapparal plays Centennial (very unlikely to win that). This could set up a 3-way tie for 3rd place. I know the SS tends to use coin-tosses for these situations instead of looking at non-league games like the rest of the state.
All three better hope that MV wins that toss! ;D
A VM win could drag all 3 teams into D-I. Does the Alpha League only get 2 AQs as a 4-team league? If so, and if the SS seeks balance (even number) in D-I, a whole bunch of teams could be added. A Chapparal win may also do the same.
This could really put the at-large thing to a test for the SS.
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Quote from: Cal 14 on Oct 28, 2025, 01:39 PMThanks.
This will likely end up being very interesting. MV plays Roosevelt (should win that). VM plays Norco (probably wins that). Chapparal plays Centennial (very unlikely to win that). This could set up a 3-way tie for 3rd place. I know the SS tends to use coin-tosses for these situations instead of looking at non-league games like the rest of the state.
All three better hope that MV wins that toss! ;D
A VM win could drag all 3 teams into D-I. Does the Alpha League only get 2 AQs as a 4-team league? If so, and if the SS seeks balance (even number) in D-I, a whole bunch of teams could be added. A Chapparal win may also do the same.
This could really put the at-large thing to a test for the SS.
Norco beat VM last night so seems all the potential D1 drama has been averted.
There might be 16 teams in D1.
https://x.com/chriscfore/status/1984049117824536854?s=61&t=zRiKi13CUYfoO-duCX6BhQ
Quote from: Bodysurf on Oct 31, 2025, 11:17 AMThere might be 16 teams in D1.
https://x.com/chriscfore/status/1984049117824536854?s=61&t=zRiKi13CUYfoO-duCX6BhQ
That's a strange recommendation from the advisory committee. IMHO, the D2 bracket is much more interesting with the #9-#24 teams as opposed to the #16-#32 teams. I'd much rather see teams like Crean Lutheran go on a Cinderella run and win D2 as opposed to getting blown out by Centennial in the first round (current projected matchup with a 16 team D1). Does the advisory committee have people from northern CA angling for more favorable matchups in the state championships?
Quote from: Bodysurf on Oct 31, 2025, 11:17 AMThere might be 16 teams in D1.
https://x.com/chriscfore/status/1984049117824536854?s=61&t=zRiKi13CUYfoO-duCX6BhQ
My guess is that the coaches' vote was 365-8. ;)
A 16-team D1 would suck for teams 9-16. But I like having more teams. I would actually prefer even larger brackets with 32 teams and having fewer divisions. I hate participation trophies and it's ridiculous with how many divisions and champions the CIF SS crowns. The fewer champions the better. This is one thing that Texas does WAY better than California.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Oct 31, 2025, 12:47 PMA 16-team D1 would suck for teams 9-16. But I like having more teams. I would actually prefer even larger brackets with 32 teams and having fewer divisions. I hate participation trophies and it's ridiculous with how many divisions and champions the CIF SS crowns. The fewer champions the better. This is one thing that Texas does WAY better than California.
Texas has just as many divisions as California.
Who was the 5A champion last year?
You can't tell me.
Why not?
Because they had two of them.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Oct 31, 2025, 01:05 PMTexas has just as many divisions as California.
Who was the 5A champion last year?
You can't tell me.
Why not?
Because they had two of them.
lmao
If you guessed Highland Park and South Oak Cliff, you'd be wrong. Those are the two teams that lost in the 5A championships.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Oct 31, 2025, 01:05 PMTexas has just as many divisions as California.
Who was the 5A champion last year?
You can't tell me.
Why not?
Because they had two of them.
I just checked and Texas had 12 state champs last year. California had 56 sectional champions and 15 state champions.
I love having 64 teams in a bracket.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Oct 31, 2025, 01:05 PMTexas has just as many divisions as California.
Who was the 5A champion last year?
You can't tell me.
Why not?
Because they had two of them.
Yes, but our Divisions are enrollment based.
Two for 6A.
Two for 5A
Two for 4A
Two for 3A
Two for 2A
Two for 1A
Around 230 schools in each Division:
6A 2275 and above 247 schools 247 schools (Basketball) 247 schools (Football) 245 schools (Volleyball)
5A 1315 - 2274 253 schools 253 schools (Basketball) 250 schools (Football) 253 schools (Volleyball)
4A 545 - 1314 218 schools 216 schools (Basketball) 200 schools (Football) 216 schools (Volleyball)
3A 254 - 544 231 schools 229 schools (Basketball) 201 schools (Football) 221 schools (Volleyball)
2A 105 - 253 226 schools 226 schools (Basketball) 206 schools (Football) 170 schools (Volleyball)
1A 104.9 and below 216 schools 215 schools (Basketball) 154 schools (Football) 123 schools (Volleyball)
MD has a terrible offense.... SJB is about the blow this open.... Lara was the worst hire ever for MD.... No way he makes it out if this season with LV right down the street!.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Oct 31, 2025, 08:03 PMMD has a terrible offense.... SJB is about the blow this open.... Lara was the worst hire ever for MD.... No way he makes it out if this season with LV right down the street!.... 🤣
As bad as a season that they have had they still beat STA and BG on the road
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 31, 2025, 08:36 PMAs bad as a season that they have had they still beat STA and BG on the road
A bad season from MD is still top 25 nationally.
Bosco has fallen apart this 3rd qrt
What a disastrous 2nd half for SJB
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 31, 2025, 08:36 PMAs bad as a season that they have had they still beat STA and BG on the road
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Oct 31, 2025, 08:46 PMA bad season from MD is still top 25 nationally.
I am sitting here Criticizing MD, Yet Just Throw it up and Catch it has MD with a 36-31 lead.... 🤣
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 31, 2025, 09:55 PMWhat a disastrous 2nd half for SJB
How in the world did RSM beat MD.... 🤣
And MD will win
Epic collapse by SJB
Quote from: Ararar on Oct 31, 2025, 10:16 PMAnd MD will win
Shocking!.... SJB fell apart.... Their QB played like a Sophomore.... SJB did get screwed in a TD where the Refs Blew the call, Kid clearly caught it with a foot in Bounds.... Tough loss for SJB.... So Cal D1 is going to be wild this year.... 🤣
Soooo does this mean at least one site will give a multiple loss MD the natty? LOL!!!
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 01, 2025, 09:11 AMSoooo does this mean at least one site will give a multiple loss MD the natty? LOL!!!
There is a lot of football left to play. Hypothetically speaking, if MD were to win out, there likely will be computers that have them #1. They already have 3 of the best national wins in at STA, at Gorman, and at Bosco. If D1 is 8 teams, current matchups would be MD v Mission in round 1. Then MD likely plays Centennial in the semis, and the final would be either Bosco or Sierra Canyon. Then the state game is most likely DLS. That schedule is a gauntlet. Computers will love it. Human pollsters won't forget MD shitting the bed with TOs versus Centennial or sleepwalking against SM.
If IMG beats SFA, some folks will crown them because they are fixated on having undefeated teams, even though their schedule is a joke.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 01, 2025, 09:11 AMSoooo does this mean at least one site will give a multiple loss MD the natty? LOL!!!
😄
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 01, 2025, 09:33 AMThere is a lot of football left to play. Hypothetically speaking, if MD were to win out, there likely will be computers that have them #1. They already have 3 of the best national wins in at STA, at Gorman, and at Bosco. If D1 is 8 teams, current matchups would be MD v Mission in round 1. Then MD likely plays Centennial in the semis, and the final would be either Bosco or Sierra Canyon. Then the state game is most likely DLS. That schedule is a gauntlet. Computers will love it. Human pollsters won't forget MD shitting the bed with TOs versus Centennial or sleepwalking against SM.
If IMG beats SFA, some folks will crown them because they are fixated on having undefeated teams, even though their schedule is a joke.
Good points. This year more than any prior is going to be really crazy going into the stretch. It would be very hard to now think of MD as the best team at the end of the year IF they were to beat all of those teams in a row. Really hard.
Before reading your post I thought it would be crazy and funny to think about them getting the natty, but after seeing who they would have to beat I am starting to lean towards hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 01, 2025, 09:11 AMSoooo does this mean at least one site will give a multiple loss MD the natty? LOL!!!
It's all hypothethical. So sure why not 🤷�♂️.
If DLS pulls the upset they should win the MNC
Hey why not
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 01, 2025, 10:58 AMGood points. This year more than any prior is going to be really crazy going into the stretch. It would be very hard to now think of MD as the best team at the end of the year IF they were to beat all of those teams in a row. Really hard.
Did you mean "now," or "not?"
Quote from: Ararar on Nov 01, 2025, 02:36 PMIf DLS pulls the upset they should win the MNC
Hey why not
Extremely unlikely but if they did, I still don't think so. It would be awesome though. Before MD beat SJB (Thing 2) I thought maybe DLS would have a punchers chance to beat MD... especially with Lara as HC. DLS D is legit but not that legit. Their O is well...their O and we all know how the lack of consistent passing game works out. I will say that if they didn't have so many kids transfer out in the off season, they would be much more competitive when they play either team. Nice to have the fastest kid in the state though.
Would really like to see them play Sierra Canyon or SM next year. Don't know if they return the favor and go play Lakeland in FL but after they made 2 trips out west they should.
SJB STILL should have won that game. Being on the goal with plenty of time and they couldn't punch it in. Says a lot about how they feel about their O line. Terrible play calling. MD played a great 2nd half and deserved to win.
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Quote from: wosinc on Nov 01, 2025, 02:51 PMDid you mean "now," or "not?"
My bad. A few too many in when I posted this. it was "Not"
Is anybody on the Norcal board on on3 that can post PAL Boosters CCS playoff seedings? I lost my login info and have been debating creaing a new one.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 02, 2025, 03:25 PMIs anybody on the Norcal board on on3 that can post PAL Boosters CCS playoff seedings? I lost my login info and have been debating creaing a new one.
You should still be able to see them, even if you can't comment on them.
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My favorite game is in D-III. Huntington Beach Edison is playing Huntington Beach. As the higher seed, Edison is the home team. The game will be played at Huntington Beach, since the Chargers don't have an on-campus stadium. So HB will be the away team on their own campus.
(I realize this happened every other year when they were both in the Sunset League, but it's still funny)
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 02, 2025, 03:25 PMIs anybody on the Norcal board on on3 that can post PAL Boosters CCS playoff seedings? I lost my login info and have been debating creaing a new one.
I have a difficult time even finding that place. Lol. Total confusion. Should have bookmarked it. If i manage to get there I will repost that stuff here. Cossacks should be able too.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 02, 2025, 03:59 PMYou should still be able to see them, even if you can't comment on them.
I ended up subscribing. I went to his thread and was so happy to see the padres vs RLS in 1st round and then I scrolled to the latest and the happines was gone when I saw St Ignatius. Hella not cool nor fair. I hope he's off but PAL rarely is. BTW nice job by the Cowboys. The game was back and forth and they eke out a win against us.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 02, 2025, 12:44 PMMy bad. A few too many in when I posted this. it was "Not"
I figured. Especially about the "few too many." 😄
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 02, 2025, 07:22 PMI ended up subscribing. I went to his thread and was so happy to see the padres vs RLS in 1st round and then I scrolled to the latest and the happines was gone when I saw St Ignatius. Hella not cool nor fair. I hope he's off but PAL rarely is. BTW nice job by the Cowboys. The game was back and forth and they eke out a win against us.
Yes, a bit of irony that teams in the B leagues wanted D-I/Open and D-II to be only those from A leagues... then some of those B teams became A teams. But, kudos to the Padres for finishing 4th in the Gab.
As for the game (and the season at large), I'm wondering how much gamesmanship has been going on by all coaches. MHAL teams played abysmal non-league schedules and get to avoid D-I/Open as a result. Salinas has been calling off the dogs once they get up by 30. This has been early in the 3rd quarter for a lot of these games, so the end result keeps them under the 30-point hsratings threshold of a blowout, dragging down the Cowboy rating. Result, they may be able to avoid D-I/Open.
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Oct 31, 2025, 02:55 PMYes, but our Divisions are enrollment based.
Two for 6A.
Two for 5A
Two for 4A
Two for 3A
Two for 2A
Two for 1A
Around 230 schools in each Division:
6A 2275 and above 247 schools 247 schools (Basketball) 247 schools (Football) 245 schools (Volleyball)
5A 1315 - 2274 253 schools 253 schools (Basketball) 250 schools (Football) 253 schools (Volleyball)
4A 545 - 1314 218 schools 216 schools (Basketball) 200 schools (Football) 216 schools (Volleyball)
3A 254 - 544 231 schools 229 schools (Basketball) 201 schools (Football) 221 schools (Volleyball)
2A 105 - 253 226 schools 226 schools (Basketball) 206 schools (Football) 170 schools (Volleyball)
1A 104.9 and below 216 schools 215 schools (Basketball) 154 schools (Football) 123 schools (Volleyball)
Great, but 80% of California has rejected enrollment-based divisions. There are too many powerful private (and some small public) schools to make it work well.
With the exception of the state Open Division in California, all others have between 32 and 56 teams (most are in the vicinity of 44). Many sections have reduced the number of rounds because a lot of the old 1st round games were blowouts anyway.
What was described above is Southern Section-centric, as is much of the CIF discussion on this site. The SS is the only section that can adequately have competitive 16-team brackets because of its overall size.
Quote from: World Citizen on Nov 02, 2025, 06:03 PMI have a difficult time even finding that place. Lol. Total confusion. Should have bookmarked it. If i manage to get there I will repost that stuff here. Cossacks should be able too.
https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/ccs-play-off-projections-after-week-8.8376750/page-2#post-174082353
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I would've liked to see Orange Lutheran and Servite play in division 2.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 03, 2025, 11:09 AMI would've liked to see Orange Lutheran and Servite play in division 2.
Those two being in D-I is not a travesty. The real travesty is San Juan Hills. I don't know the story of why they had to forfeit 7 games (it doesn't matter, btw), but those are supposed to be losses. Instead the SS not only ignores them, but rewards them with a home playoff game?
Seriously, what the hell?
So, now teams can potentially cheat and have no repercussions at all?
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 03, 2025, 11:09 AMI would've liked to see Orange Lutheran and Servite play in division 2.
And then who takes their place in D1?
I wish D1 had 16 teams like all other divisions. I dislike the bye week before the playoffs. An advisory committee consisting of coaches recommended that all divisions have 16 teams. Unfortunately the CIF did not take the advice.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 03, 2025, 02:55 PMThose two being in D-I is not a travesty. The real travesty is San Juan Hills. I don't know the story of why they had to forfeit 7 games (it doesn't matter, btw), but those are supposed to be losses. Instead the SS not only ignores them, but rewards them with a home playoff game?
Seriously, what the hell?
So, now teams can potentially cheat and have no repercussions at all?
A greater travesty is what happened to Rim of the World. They went 9-1 and didn't make the playoffs.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 03, 2025, 02:55 PMThose two being in D-I is not a travesty. The real travesty is San Juan Hills. I don't know the story of why they had to forfeit 7 games (it doesn't matter, btw), but those are supposed to be losses. Instead the SS not only ignores them, but rewards them with a home playoff game?
Seriously, what the hell?
So, now teams can potentially cheat and have no repercussions at all?
I don't think it's a travesty, but going by the rankings, they should be division 2.
They actually got a real good draw for that division.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 03, 2025, 03:04 PMA greater travesty is what happened to Rim of the World. They went 9-1 and didn't make the playoffs.
That's a shame, but for a different reason. I think the SS may be the only CIF section that doesn't take non-league games into consideration for playoff determination. But I'm presuming that neither Colton, nor Kaiser cheated their way into getting playoff bids.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 03, 2025, 03:16 PMI don't think it's a travesty, but going by the rankings, they should be division 2.
They actually got a real good draw for that division.
It's a matter of ethics.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 03, 2025, 03:23 PMIt's a matter of ethics.
Crean Lutheran has to be put in that same jar of teams then.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 03, 2025, 03:50 PMCrean Lutheran has to be put in that same jar of teams then.
If they violated rules, causing them to forfeit a bunch of games, then yes they should. But I'm not seeing a record of that.
What are they accused of doing? Bishop Montgomery type of nonsense?
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 03, 2025, 02:55 PMThose two being in D-I is not a travesty. The real travesty is San Juan Hills. I don't know the story of why they had to forfeit 7 games (it doesn't matter, btw), but those are supposed to be losses. Instead the SS not only ignores them, but rewards them with a home playoff game?
Seriously, what the hell?
So, now teams can potentially cheat and have no repercussions at all?
Totally Agree!.... Norco had almost the same thing happen, they had to forfeit 6 gane I think and were left out of the playoffs!.... It's a total joke that a team would have to forfeit their season and still be in the playoffs.... Put someone who didn't breaks the rules in instead....
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 03, 2025, 06:02 PMIf they violated rules, causing them to forfeit a bunch of games, then yes they should. But I'm not seeing a record of that.
What are they accused of doing? Bishop Montgomery type of nonsense?
They haven't said, but it's either Falsifying Documents or Undue Influence.... Norco's was Undue Influence.... LBP has I think 6 players ruled ineligible for Falsifying documents, they would have made the playoffs but backed out....
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 03, 2025, 02:57 PMAnd then who takes their place in D1?
I wish D1 had 16 teams like all other divisions. I dislike the bye week before the playoffs. An advisory committee consisting of coaches recommended that all divisions have 16 teams. Unfortunately the CIF did not take the advice.
What is the point of 16 teams in the SS D1 playoffs?.... To me there should never be more than 8.... You can have 16 in other SS Divisions but not D1....
I would also like to see the TL limited to D1 only, No TL teams in D2.... If a TL team can't qualify for the D1 playoffs they don't need to be in.... Teams with Losing records should not be playoff teams.... OLU should be out this year, they couldn't even beat Servite.... 🤣
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 03, 2025, 06:02 PMIf they violated rules, causing them to forfeit a bunch of games, then yes they should. But I'm not seeing a record of that.
What are they accused of doing? Bishop Montgomery type of nonsense?
I'm saying with Servite and Orange Lutheran
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 03, 2025, 06:59 PMWhat is the point of 16 teams in the SS D1 playoffs?.... To me there should never be more than 8.... You can have 16 in other SS Divisions but not D1....
I would also like to see the TL limited to D1 only, No TL teams in D2.... If a TL team can't qualify for the D1 playoffs they don't need to be in.... Teams with Losing records should not be playoff teams.... OLU should be out this year, they couldn't even beat Servite.... 🤣
There can't be a double standard for leagues. What you are suggesting is the old system where leagues were placed in divisions before the season and only the top teams from each league made the playoffs. Using the logic that no TL should be in D2 is like saying no Mission League teams should be allowed in D3.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 03, 2025, 10:36 AMYes, a bit of irony that teams in the B leagues wanted D-I/Open and D-II to be only those from A leagues... then some of those B teams became A teams. But, kudos to the Padres for finishing 4th in the Gab.
As for the game (and the season at large), I'm wondering how much gamesmanship has been going on by all coaches. MHAL teams played abysmal non-league schedules and get to avoid D-I/Open as a result. Salinas has been calling off the dogs once they get up by 30. This has been early in the 3rd quarter for a lot of these games, so the end result keeps them under the 30-point hsratings threshold of a blowout, dragging down the Cowboy rating. Result, they may be able to avoid D-I/Open.
Agreed!! Most knew this was going to happen though. I was seriously concerned with the Pads making it through a whole season in the Gab and coming out healthy. I thought it would be Soquel and Salas at the top but with Palma winning in an upset over Soquel threw everything up in the air.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 03, 2025, 11:09 AMI would've liked to see Orange Lutheran and Servite play in division 2.
Ha so would they
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 03, 2025, 03:04 PMA greater travesty is what happened to Rim of the World. They went 9-1 and didn't make the playoffs.
No way. There has to be something more to the story.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 03, 2025, 07:39 PMThere can't be a double standard for leagues. What you are suggesting is the old system where leagues were placed in divisions before the season and only the top teams from each league made the playoffs. Using the logic that no TL should be in D2 is like saying no Mission League teams should be allowed in D3.
I am good with that.... That would be fine, Don't allow Mission League teams in D3.... Why does every team in a league have to make the Playoffs?.... If your not TL top 4 and can't Qualify for D1 then go home and get ready for Basketball and Baseball...
If you are a Mission League team and can't qualify for D1 or D2 by being Top 4 in your league then do the same.... There is no reason that a Team like OLU with a Losing Record and not even finishing Top 4 in a 6 team league needs to make the playoffs.... That's what I am saying.... 5 out of 6 TL teams made the D1 playoffs and JSERRA who was straight garbage this year, just missed D2... It's Stupid.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 03, 2025, 09:08 PMI am good with that.... That would be fine, Don't allow Mission League teams in D3.... Why does every team in a league have to make the Playoffs?.... If your not TL top 4 and can't Qualify for D1 then go home and get ready for Basketball and Baseball...
If you are a Mission League team and can't qualify for D1 or D2 by being Top 4 in your league then do the same.... There is no reason that a Team like OLU with a Losing Record and not even finishing Top 4 in a 6 team league needs to make the playoffs.... That's what I am saying.... 5 out of 6 TL teams made the D1 playoffs and JSERRA who was straight garbage this year, just missed D2... It's Stupid.... 🤣
I wouldn't call any of those TL teams garbage with the schedules they play. JSerra's worst team was either Damien or Oak Hills. OLu's worst team was Gardena Serra. If those are the worst teams on your schedule that is ridiculous!! I think JSerra would make a decent run at the D2 section title. OLU would steamroll through D2.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 03, 2025, 07:49 PMNo way. There has to be something more to the story.
https://x.com/latsondheimer/status/1985378418050179573
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Nov 04, 2025, 12:41 AMI wouldn't call any of those TL teams garbage with the schedules they play. JSerra's worst team was either Damien or Oak Hills. OLu's worst team was Gardena Serra. If those are the worst teams on your schedule that is ridiculous!! I think JSerra would make a decent run at the D2 section title. OLU would steamroll through D2.
JSerra is Straight Garbage this year, They lost to Damien and Oak Hill is a D3 team.... JSerra didn't even play a competitive game in the TL, why on earth would they deserve any kind of playoff birth?.... 🤣
OLU is not garbage, but they have a losing record and won 1 TL game.... I don't see any reason why a 5th place team in a 6 team league needs to make the playoffs....
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 03, 2025, 07:39 PMThere can't be a double standard for leagues. What you are suggesting is the old system where leagues were placed in divisions before the season and only the top teams from each league made the playoffs. Using the logic that no TL should be in D2 is like saying no Mission League teams should be allowed in D3.
This is something that the CCS does to a certain degree across its 5 playoff divisions. Given that the section is about 1/4 the size of the SS, the leagues are designated in 3 tiers: A, B, and C. A teams are exclusively placed in D-I and D-II, while not allowed in D-V. B teams can compete in D-III thru D-V. C teams can only compete in D-V. A leagues get the most AQs (usually 4), followed by B (usually 2), and C (1 only).
The SS could do something similar by establishing a floor and ceiling in terms of how low or high teams from certain league could be placed in a given year. This could reward a school for that 'team of a decade' year, but not allow someone from dropping too far to smash less-established programs. The placement of the leagues and/or the teams within it should be adjusted annually, but this would be a lot better than the old way of dragging weaker teams up just because of one good program. Orange County already has a system of trying to place teams together of relative strength across the county.
This year, the SS has 2-8 Upland all the way down in D-6, when that's normally a D-2 or 3 team.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 03, 2025, 03:04 PMA greater travesty is what happened to Rim of the World. They went 9-1 and didn't make the playoffs.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 03, 2025, 07:49 PMNo way. There has to be something more to the story.
People are crying rivers over this, but the real numbers are 2-1. The SS set up this 4-team league with two AQs. 3 teams went 2-1 and the SS uses a silly coin toss to determine who gets the AQs. RotW lost.
We all know very well that just about any team can set themselves up for an undefeated non-league slate just as easily as a winless one.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 04, 2025, 06:49 AMJSerra is Straight Garbage this year, They lost to Damien and Oak Hill is a D3 team.... JSerra didn't even play a competitive game in the TL, why on earth would they deserve any kind of playoff birth?.... 🤣
OLU is not garbage, but they have a losing record and won 1 TL game.... I don't see any reason why a 5th place team in a 6 team league needs to make the playoffs....
JSerra definitely had a bad year. For a last place TL team, that is. They would still beat 1000 of the teams in California and 14,000 teams across the country. I wouldn't call that straight garbage, but to each his own....
There are only (maybe) 30 or 40 teams in the entire country that would have a winning record with OLu's schedule.
You really need to look at the big picture with those two teams.
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Nov 04, 2025, 06:43 PMJSerra definitely had a bad year. For a last place TL team, that is. They would still beat 1000 of the teams in California and 14,000 teams across the country. I wouldn't call that straight garbage, but to each his own....
There are only (maybe) 30 or 40 teams in the entire country that would have a winning record with OLu's schedule.
You really need to look at the big picture with those two teams.
Apparently the big Picture is JSerra is Garbage because they just fired their Coach.... 3 TL wins in 3 years and trying to Compete for D2 just doesn't do it when you are a TL team and Nor Should it.... These Schools have big $$, JSerra's Coach makes over $200k a year.... That's D1 Money, Not D2 or lower level.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 05, 2025, 10:27 PMApparently the big Picture is JSerra is Garbage because they just fired their Coach.... 3 TL wins in 3 years and trying to Compete for D2 just doesn't do it when you are a TL team and Nor Should it.... These Schools have big $$, JSerra's Coach makes over $200k a year.... That's D1 Money, Not D2 or lower level.... 🤣
Yes, they sucked this year......for a Trinity League school. That's like saying Florida and Auburn firing their coaches because they stunk it up in the SEC means they were straight garbage. I certainly wouldn't call those two garbage schools, nor would I JSerra. The TL is the SEC of high school football.
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Nov 05, 2025, 11:06 PMYes, they sucked this year......for a Trinity League school. That's like saying Florida and Auburn firing their coaches because they stunk it up in the SEC means they were straight garbage. I certainly wouldn't call those two garbage schools, nor would I JSerra. The TL is the SEC of high school football.
OK, My Bad, They are not Straight Garbage they just Suck... They gave up 40+ points to every TL Team, 60+ to OLU and 70 to SJB.... They were 3-7.... And I don't think any of the 3 wins were in your to 100.... 🤣
Hopefully with a new coach and better recruiting they can get back to a D1 competitive TL Level... 🍻
D2 Scores
Murrieta Valley 35 - Corona Del Mar 14
Rancho Cucamonga 45 - Tustin 8
Los Alamitos 35 - Yorba Linda 28
San Juan Hills 28 - Downey 27
San Clemente 38 - Beaumont 21
Vista Murrieta 36 - Damien 31
Leuzinger 34 - Crean Lutheran 17
Chaparral 63 - Chaminade 42
Sets up these games for next week:
Murrieta Valley vs. Rancho Cucamonga (Rematch, first game was MV 28 - RC 26)
Los Alamitos vs. San Juan Hills
San Clemente vs. Vista Murrieta
Leuzinger vs. Chaparral
D1 semis coin flips were just posted
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I don't think we've ever won a coin flip against Centennial!
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How good a team is Point Loma (San Diego)?....
Anyone know?
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 12, 2025, 08:03 PMHow good a team is Point Loma (San Diego)?....
Anyone know?
They are really good.... Their game against San Marcos will be tough because San Marcos plays in the best League in San Diego and their only losses were close games with the 3 Open Teams....
Point Loma has a really nice Defense and they are Explosive on Offense, Very good OL and DL, really good Speed.... They are normally a D2/D3 level team but they Beat SDCC which Definitely Bumped them to D1... That win however needs to be taken with a Grain of Salt as SDCC's Top 3 Players we're all out due to injuries from the DLS game Including their D1 QB, D1RB who has a ton of offers and D1 OT....
I would definitely pick them over San Marcos, but they won't beat Lincoln in the D1 Semis....
The Funny thing is that them beating SDCC and Lincoln losing to SDCC dropped Lincoln into D1 because of the stupid ranking system.... On top of that, They got a Crap Seed in D1, probably should have been a 3 and not a 4 putting them in Lincoln's side of the Bracket.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 12, 2025, 09:30 PMThey are really good.... Their game against San Marcos will be tough because San Marcos plays in the best League in San Diego and their only losses were close games with the 3 Open Teams....
Point Loma has a really nice Defense and they are Explosive on Offense, Very good OL and DL, really good Speed.... They are normally a D2/D3 level team but they Beat SDCC which Definitely Bumped them to D1... That win however needs to be taken with a Grain of Salt as SDCC's Top 3 Players we're all out due to injuries from the DLS game Including their D1 QB, D1RB who has a ton of offers and D1 OT....
I would definitely pick them over San Marcos, but they won't beat Lincoln in the D1 Semis....
The Funny thing is that them beating SDCC and Lincoln losing to SDCC dropped Lincoln into D1 because of the stupid ranking system.... On top of that, They got a Crap Seed in D1, probably should have been a 3 and not a 4 putting them in Lincoln's side of the Bracket.... 🤣
Alright, thanks........ figured they had to be pretty solid
Never seen this team get any ink or even heard of this team.. Maybe they have in the California thread and I just missed it. Of course I don't check that thread everyday
Makes one of my pick'em decisions a lot easier.
I was already leaning Cathedral Catholic over Mission Hills.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 13, 2025, 08:28 AMAlright, thanks........ figured they had to be pretty solid
Never seen this team get any ink or even heard of this team.. Maybe they have in the California thread and I just missed it. Of course I don't check that thread everyday
Makes one of my pick'em decisions a lot easier.
I was already leaning Cathedral Catholic over Mission Hills.
That's a really tough game to pick.... There are compelling reasons for picking both sides in this game....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 13, 2025, 12:16 PMThat's a really tough game to pick.... There are compelling reasons for picking both sides in this game....
Cathedral Catholic has the best player in California in the 2027 Class per 247sports where he is a 5-Star.
Cathedral Catholic actually has quite a bit of talent compared to Mission Hills.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2025/11/13/learn-his-name-cathedral-catholics-honor-faalave-johnson-might-be-san-diegos-best-player/
On paper this game shouldn't be all that close.
All the data points to Cathedral Catholic winning.
Mission Hills has never beaten Cathedral Catholic 0-2 in a Maxpreps era as well
What would be the case for Mission Hills?
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 13, 2025, 12:59 PMCathedral Catholic has the best player in California in the 2027 Class per 247sports where he is a 5-Star.
Cathedral Catholic actually has quite a bit of talent compared to Mission Hills.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2025/11/13/learn-his-name-cathedral-catholics-honor-faalave-johnson-might-be-san-diegos-best-player/
On paper this game shouldn't be all that close.
All the data points to Cathedral Catholic winning.
Mission Hills has never beaten Cathedral Catholic 0-2 in a Maxpreps era as well
What would be the case for Mission Hills?
RB/DB Honor Fa'alave-Johnson
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I was at the game when they played De LaSalle, he's the real deal, was the only one who could muster any offense against the DLS defense. I think LB will be the best place for him at the next level if he gains 20 pounds. Hopefully USC can get a hold of him.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 13, 2025, 12:59 PMCathedral Catholic has the best player in California in the 2027 Class per 247sports where he is a 5-Star.
Cathedral Catholic actually has quite a bit of talent compared to Mission Hills.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/2025/11/13/learn-his-name-cathedral-catholics-honor-faalave-johnson-might-be-san-diegos-best-player/
On paper this game shouldn't be all that close.
All the data points to Cathedral Catholic winning.
Mission Hills has never beaten Cathedral Catholic 0-2 in a Maxpreps era as well
What would be the case for Mission Hills?
SDCC's D1 QB is out for the season getting injured against DLS.... Their Back Up QB can't throw.... The way SDCC beat Lincoln SD was by using ther RB at QB and running the Wildcat Formation for almost all the game and he scored like 5 TD's I think....
Mission Hills is a very well coached team and with 2 weeks to prepare for SDCC I would expect they will be ready for this where SF Lincoln was not.... SDCC will have the advantage on the OLine, So I Expect they will win a Close game... Should be a really good game....
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 13, 2025, 01:16 PMQuote from: Redzone on Nov 13, 2025, 01:02 PMRB/DB Honor Fa'alave-Johnson
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I was at the game when they played De LaSalle, he's the real deal, was the only one who could muster any offense against the DLS defense. I think LB will be the best place for him at the next level if he gains 20 pounds. Hopefully USC can get a hold of him.
Totally agree, he was possibly the most impressive player on the field that night.... DLS was able to contain him because once the QB for SDCC got hurt the Back up was an awful passer.... So they were able to load the box against him and DLS had the Speed to keep him from breaking a big play....
The good news is USC is at the top of his list, he is projecting out as a safety in College, but either way, he definitely will need to add some weight....!🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 13, 2025, 04:05 PMSDCC's D1 QB is out for the season getting injured against DLS.... Their Back Up QB can't throw.... The way SDCC beat Lincoln SD was by using ther RB at QB and running the Wildcat Formation for almost all the game and he scored like 5 TD's I think....
Seems to be back to me.
That was one thing I made sure of.
He's committed to California.
https://cchsdonsathletics.com/news/2025/11/10/football-san-diego-union-tribune-athlete-of-the-week.aspx
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 13, 2025, 04:25 PMSeems to be back to me.
That was one thing I made sure of.
He's committed to California.
https://cchsdonsathletics.com/news/2025/11/10/football-san-diego-union-tribune-athlete-of-the-week.aspx
If that's the Case and he is Back, SDCC will roll them.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 13, 2025, 06:22 PMIf that's the Case and he is Back, SDCC will roll them.... 🤣
If they don't roll I will get a much needed 60-day vacation. 🤠
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 13, 2025, 06:22 PMIf that's the Case and he is Back, SDCC will roll them.... 🤣
With the rain, I don't think passing games are gonna look to great this week in SoCal.
I certainly didn't factor in the weather.
Yeah, that's on me.
Damn!
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 14, 2025, 08:26 AMWith the rain, I don't think passing games are gonna look to great this week in SoCal.
If it's raining down in So Cal as Bad as it was in Nor Cal yesterday, it will definitely be messy tonight.... Will make the SC vs RSM game really interesting....
It won't matter, in the San Diego game though SDCC's qb is a dual threat, he is great running QB and SDCC has the Better RB and OLine.... Weather will make it closer, but SDCC still wins by 2 or more scores.....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 14, 2025, 10:11 AMWill make the SC vs RSM game really interesting....
Wouldn't surprise me if this game ends with a score of 3-2..
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Nov 08, 2025, 10:10 AMD1 semis coin flips were just posted
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I hate this as a concept. The higher seed should always get the home games.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 14, 2025, 01:07 PMI hate this as a concept. The higher seed should always get the home games.
It's primitive.
A rare potentially rainy night for Southern Section football teams, will be interesting to see if it influences any football games.
Sierra Canyon is a lot stronger along their offensive line this year than in years past.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 14, 2025, 07:17 PMSierra Canyon is a lot stronger along their offensive line this year than in years past.
Bring your poncho?
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Nov 14, 2025, 07:23 PMBring your poncho?
I didn't go. I won't go watch anyone in rain unless I have family playing.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Nov 14, 2025, 07:23 PMBring your poncho?
NFHS but they should win this game by multiple scores. Santa Margarita can't move the ball at all. Sierra Canyon up 3-0 and in position to score again.
Blocked FG
TD santa margarita
7-3 28 seconds to go before halftime
Lots of scoring In that Mission Hills/Cathedral Catholic game.
Mission Hills up 28-21 at halftime...... they scored 21 points in the second quarter.
Cathedral Catholic is going to have to make some adjustments at halftime....... they can't stop Mission Hills right now.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 14, 2025, 08:07 PMTD santa margarita
7-3 28 seconds to go before halftime
SC weak schedule may come out and bite them in the ass, so used to running up and down the field all day. SM is battle hardened and has seen what SC got before, and more, several times already. Every team in Div 1 playoffs has been through a gauntlet to get there except SC.
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 14, 2025, 08:19 PMSC weak schedule may come out and bite them in the ass, so used to running up and down the field all day. SM is battle hardened and has seen what SC got before, and more, several times already. Every team in Div 1 playoffs has been through a gauntlet to get there except SC.
Sierra Canyon IMO is the better team.
A blocked fg
A missed fg
A made fg
Santa Margarita has one big play for a TD.
The rain killed this game.
TD Sierra Canyon. Extra point blocked
Sierra Canyon 9 Santa Margarita 7
I was telling myself that santa margarita needed a trick play to score and they call it.
Santa Margarita 14 Sierra Canyon 9
Santa Margarita returns a punt to the 7 and punches it in from there.
21 -9
Santa margarita up
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 14, 2025, 08:30 PMSierra Canyon IMO is the better team.
A blocked fg
A missed fg
A made fg
Santa Margarita has one big play for a TD.
The rain killed this game.
Totally agree SC's the better team, I'm just saying they aren't prepared as well for this game or the rest of the playoffs. SM may not be as good but they are definitely better than anyone SC has played up to know
Why did Bosco punt with 1 time out left?
If I'm Orange Lutheran I take the safety there and punt from the 20.
Lutheran with the upset in the rain
SJB defeated OLU, 48-0, in the first game. We are to understand that it is *ONLY* the rain which explains the shocking disparity in outcomes. The notion of the losing team in game 1 fairing better in game two, is, of course, thoroughly dismissed by many.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 14, 2025, 09:24 PMLutheran with the upset in the rain
I figured it would be another blowout and didn't tune in. What happened? Outplayed? Turnovers?
Quote from: World Citizen on Nov 14, 2025, 09:29 PMI figured it would be another blowout and didn't tune in. What happened? Outplayed? Turnovers?
I only watched the last 3 minutes
While I assume all will say that the outcome was 100% exclusively a byproduct of the rain, it must also be pointed out that literally no one, if given the chance in advance, would have actually said "Oh, of there's rain OLU may upset them". ::)
Cathedral Catholic outscored Mission Hills 21-7 in the 2nd half.
Cathedral Catholic 42 Mission Hills 35 Final
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Nov 14, 2025, 09:35 PMWhile I assume all will say that the outcome was 100% exclusively a byproduct of the rain, it must also be pointed out that literally no one, if given the chance in advance, would have actually said "Oh, of there's rain OLU may upset them". ::)
Didn't watch game and will withhold my judgement but the rain is absolutely no excuse for losing or winning with either team. Neither is one dimensional. IMO.
St John Bosco was in cruise control to the Myth National Championship.......end up with 2 losses n😮
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 14, 2025, 09:37 PMCathedral Catholic outscored Mission Hills 21-7 in the 2nd half.
Cathedral Catholic 42 Mission Hills 35 Final
You are welcome...'🤣
I legit thought people were trolling on MaxPreps with the Cali scores good lord......
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 14, 2025, 09:04 PMTotally agree SC's the better team, I'm just saying they aren't prepared as well for this game or the rest of the playoffs. SM may not be as good but they are definitely better than anyone SC has played up to know
The Difference is RSM actually Beat MD on the Field.... Sierra Canyon has never beat anyone at that level.... They just don't understand what it takes to win at that level... Their Schedule wac Crap and it showed....
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Nov 14, 2025, 09:35 PMWhile I assume all will say that the outcome was 100% exclusively a byproduct of the rain, it must also be pointed out that literally no one, if given the chance in advance, would have actually said "Oh, of there's rain OLU may upset them". ::)
It gives them a much better chance. Orange lutheran doesn't match up with Bosco on the edges but they match up okay upfront. The rain neutralizes those edge advantages a lot.
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Nov 14, 2025, 09:58 PMI legit thought people were trolling on MaxPreps with the Cali scores good lord......
IF anyone doesn't think things are Changing in So Cal HSFB they are Crazy.... D1 level kids don't want to sit in the Bench, they want to play....
Tonight was a HUGE indictment on SJB Coach JN.... How does a team like that lose to OLU?.... Just shows he is not a "Great Coach", he just recruits well.... SJB and MD are both going on a downward trend, times are changing in So Cal HSFB....
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 14, 2025, 10:01 PMIt gives them a much better chance. Orange lutheran doesn't match up with Bosco on the edges but they match up okay upfront. The rain neutralizes those edge advantages a lot.
HA!... Really?... the difference for 48-0 to losing to a 3 win team like OLU is the weather?.... 🤣
I would say that's just Terrible Coaching.... JN is not a great coach, Recruiter, year but Coach, No way.... 🤣🤣
Kid couldn't complete a pass all nite bad misses they were killing them on the ground when they took the decision out of the kids hand. When he was forced to make a read he failed and tried to complete a pass when he couldn't/shouldn't
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 14, 2025, 10:06 PMHA!... Really?... the difference for 48-0 to losing to a 3 win team like OLU is the weather?.... 🤣
I would say that's just Terrible Coaching.... JN is not a great coach, Recruiter, year but Coach, No way.... 🤣🤣
Weather is a huge factor when you're not way better upfront.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 14, 2025, 10:03 PMIF anyone doesn't think things are Changing in So Cal HSFB they are Crazy.... D1 level kids don't want to sit in the Bench, they want to play....
Tonight was a HUGE indictment on SJB Coach JN.... How does a team like that lose to OLU?.... Just shows he is not a "Great Coach", he just recruits well.... SJB and MD are both going on a downward trend, times are changing in So Cal HSFB....
I feel like Bosco is still okay, for now.
Mater Dei on the other hand needs a redemption season next year, or their aura is done,
They won't be taken seriously anymore and risk losing the talent draw unless Lara gets his stuff together.
I don't think the rain had too much to do with this play. Maybe, but that's a tough pass to try to complete in perfect conditions
Crazy looking play in the St John Bosco game
https://x.com/MaxPreps/status/1989562612388946100?s=20
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Nov 14, 2025, 10:11 PMI feel like Bosco is still okay, for now.
Mater Dei on the other hand needs a redemption season next year, or their aura is done,
They won't be taken seriously anymore and risk losing the talent draw unless Lara gets his stuff together.
How is This possible?.... SJB has won nothing compared to MD and now they just lost to a 3-7 OLU team.... If you' don't think SJB is on the decline you are crazy... MD is
As well, and guess what, they both have 2 losse t so cal teams... 🤣🤣🍻
The kids blew it several bad center qb exchanges missed throws batted balls pick 6 .
Loe should have took the ball out of his hands in the rain and just run the ball vs the read and bad decisions.
Missed kicks didn't help either.
OLU played a hell of a game by shorten the clock by keeping on the ground.
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Nov 14, 2025, 10:11 PMI feel like Bosco is still okay, for now.
Mater Dei on the other hand needs a redemption season next year, or their aura is done,
They won't be taken seriously anymore and risk losing the talent draw unless Lara gets his stuff together.
Really?
We lose close games to Centennial and Santa Margarita so we won't be taken seriously. That's okay if people don't take us seriously. We still may win state and end up national #1 in computer polls because of SOS.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 14, 2025, 11:48 PMHow is This possible?.... SJB has won nothing compared to MD and now they just lost to a 3-7 OLU team.... If you' don't think SJB is on the decline you are crazy... MD is
As well, and guess what, they both have 2 losse t so cal teams... 🤣🤣🍻
That is crazy and serious overreaction. 🤠
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 13, 2025, 01:16 PMQuote from: Redzone on Nov 13, 2025, 01:02 PMRB/DB Honor Fa'alave-Johnson
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I was at the game when they played De LaSalle, he's the real deal, was the only one who could muster any offense against the DLS defense. I think LB will be the best place for him at the next level if he gains 20 pounds. Hopefully USC can get a hold of him.
He had a night last night!!
"It was his fifth touchdown run of the game with scores of 47, 17, 14, 57 and 43 yards. He finished the game with 18 carries for 255 yards."
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 15, 2025, 06:24 AMHe had a night last night!!
"It was his fifth touchdown run of the game with scores of 47, 17, 14, 57 and 43 yards. He finished the game with 18 carries for 255 yards."
Goes to show you how elite DLS is on defense this year. With their passing game coming together they have a real shot at the open championship this year.
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 15, 2025, 08:22 AMGoes to show you how elite DLS is on defense this year. With their passing game coming together they have a real shot at the open championship this year.
Now that Bosco is out, yes they do.
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 15, 2025, 08:22 AMGoes to show you how elite DLS is on defense this year. With their passing game coming together they have a real shot at the open championship this year.
I agree but MD receivers are damn good. SM would be a really interesting game and a nice change of pace. Cen10 would be a tough out too, but DLS seems to play them better than anybody over the years. Really looking forward to the Open and it's been a long time since that was the case. Hope they get everybody healthy. Has Chase Young even played this year?
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 15, 2025, 08:22 AMGoes to show you how elite DLS is on defense this year. With their passing game coming together they have a real shot at the open championship this year.
Whoa easy now.
Gotta get by Pitt first. Then the NorCal playoff game.Actually on second thought, you are right. 🤣
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 14, 2025, 08:30 PMSierra Canyon IMO is the better team.
A blocked fg
A missed fg
A made fg
Santa Margarita has one big play for a TD.
The rain killed this game.
Or exposed the weaknesses in their game.
Quote from: World Citizen on Nov 15, 2025, 11:24 AMI agree but MD receivers are damn good. SM would be a really interesting game and a nice change of pace. Cen10 would be a tough out too, but DLS seems to play them better than anybody over the years. Really looking forward to the Open and it's been a long time since that was the case. Hope they get everybody healthy. Has Chase Young even played this year?
That's probably the most glaring weakness in DLS defense, tall strong receivers or tight ends. You can't outrun DLS D but you can out jump the safeties, fast as hell but short.
Quote from: Cossacks on Nov 15, 2025, 12:29 PMWhoa easy now. Gotta get by Pitt first. Then the NorCal playoff game.
Actually on second thought, you are right. 🤣
Thought you were having a seizure there for a second but I guess stranger things have happened.
SC definitely had their chances to jump all over SM, but didn't . Their QB proved to be lacking. They lost starting o-lineman and the drop off with sub was glaring . Once the adversity happened, they seemed to breakdown somewhat . Same thing happened last season vs OLU. They had game in hand in second half before td called back, then a serious to that let OLU back in game, only to disintegrate from there . Those type of losses you learn from and build resilience by overcoming them the next go around . The potential is there, but coaching comes into play also
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 15, 2025, 12:52 PMOr exposed the weaknesses in their game.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 14, 2025, 11:48 PMHow is This possible?.... SJB has won nothing compared to MD and now they just lost to a 3-7 OLU team.... If you' don't think SJB is on the decline you are crazy... MD is
As well, and guess what, they both have 2 losse t so cal teams... 🤣🤣🍻
Yeah, I see what you're saying but coach Negro has been playing it close to losing to these other teams [and getting called out on it] for a good while now.
Mater Dei's drop was massive and kind of out of nowhere and can be solely blamed on Lara; which would cause people to jump ship on him. [The discipline issues, and not looking like the "Mater Dei brand" that has the program in jeopardy.]
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Nov 20, 2025, 10:53 AMYeah, I see what you're saying but coach Negro has been playing it close to losing to these other teams [and getting called out on it] for a good while now.
Mater Dei's drop was massive and kind of out of nowhere and can be solely blamed on Lara; which would cause people to jump ship on him. [The discipline issues, and not looking like the "Mater Dei brand" that has the program in jeopardy.]
I don't think MD has had much, if any drop. Their season just amounts to a return to the mean of sorts. Their schedule has been as tough as ever, and the odds just point to *nobody* remaining totally dominant each and every game against that. There was some good fortune and/or best case scenarios that transpired in many of their best outcomes in years past. In 2018, IMG may well have won a best of 5, 4-1 against them. It's only through motivated delusion of fans that the narrative became MD was totally dominant over that IMG team.
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Nov 20, 2025, 08:15 PMIt's only through motivated delusion of fans that the narrative became MD was totally dominant over that IMG team.
None of the MD folks I know think we dominated IMG. Game could have gone either way. All that matters is the final score.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 21, 2025, 01:06 PMNone of the MD folks I know think we dominated IMG. Game could have gone either way. All that matters is the final score.
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Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 21, 2025, 01:06 PMNone of the MD folks I know think we dominated IMG. Game could have gone either way. All that matters is the final score.
Wondering myself where that came from. Have not seen it on any of the boards I frequent.
Is MD missing starters?
This doesn't look like a Mater Dei team of the last couple of years.
10-0 Mater Dei. 835 in the 2nd quarter left.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 21, 2025, 01:06 PMNone of the MD folks I know think we dominated IMG. Game could have gone either way. All that matters is the final score.
The assumption that MD is head and shoulders above IMG comes from folks who didn't watch the game, or watched casually. IMG is one of the least likeable programs in the country, and so there is added motivation for many to portray their results in as negative a light as possible.
Venice...errr I mean Corona Centennial, can't beat MD twice in the same season. As I've documented for years, when teams are within the same stratosphere, the team who loses the first game almost always fares better in the second game. And that bodes very poorly for the Indians...I mean Huskies.
Centennial 14 Mater Dei 10
26 seconds to go in the half
Mater Dei is just a mess of a team. Fumbles at the 1, stupid penalties and just bad offense.
TD Mater Dei
Mater Dei 16 Centennial 10
Extra point blocked
TD Centennial
Centennial 21 Mater Dei 16
612 left in the 3rd
FG Mater Dei
Centennial 21 Mater Dei 19
1153 to go in the 4th
TD Mater Dei
Mater Dei 27 Centennial 21
Centennial at their own 43. 1st and 5. 329 to go in the game
TD Centennial
Centennial 28 Mater Dei 27
135 to go
Centennial blocks the game winning fg attempt and holds on to win
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 21, 2025, 09:39 PMCentennial blocks the game winning fg attempt and holds on to win
Let's go Huskies!
Just a Shocker!!.... Great for Cen10!!!...
MD might leave Lara in Corona.... 🤣
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Nov 21, 2025, 07:53 PMVenice...errr I mean Corona Centennial, can't beat MD twice in the same season. As I've documented for years, when teams are within the same stratosphere, the team who loses the first game almost always fares better in the second game. And that bodes very poorly for the Indians...I mean Huskies.
lol
Who's bingo card had MD losing 3 games in California?
Quote from: Ararar on Nov 21, 2025, 10:07 PMWho's bingo card had MD losing 3 games in California?
HA!.... And being Swept by Cen10!!!... 🤣
I know this is supposed to be football only, but I had to watch this one on NFHS from my room at City of Hope. I'm 8 days past stem cell introduction and I still can't believe they pulled it off. Now, if I can fight liked the Huskies, maybe I'll see a championship.
Quote from: On2Wheels on Nov 21, 2025, 10:31 PMI know this is supposed to be football only, but I had to watch this one on NFHS from my room at City of Hope. I'm 8 days past stem cell introduction and I still can't believe they pulled it off. Now, if I can fight liked the Huskies, maybe I'll see a championship.
Congrats!!...On all fronts!.... So glad to see you here!!.... Your Huskies Beating MD 2 times in the same year is amazing!!.... Really hope you guys beat RSM and go to the Open!!... Would be so awesome to see a public School back in The Open!!.... 🍻💪
Reads like DLS got dominated last night, but still won the game 24-17..
DLS definitely lost the stat battle...... they'll have to do much better than that to beat Santa Margarita or Centennial.
But 👇
33!
"DLS wins 33rd straight North Coast Section title"
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 22, 2025, 06:02 AMReads like DLS got dominated last night, but still won the game 24-17..
DLS definitely lost the stat battle...... they'll have to do much better than that to beat Santa Margarita or Centennial.
But 👇
33!
"DLS wins 33rd straight North Coast Section title"
Just win baby!! Wasn't pretty though, got the stops when it counted. Pittsburgh reminds me of the old Long Beach Poly teams, always shitload of talent but can't seem to get over that hump.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 22, 2025, 06:02 AMReads like DLS got dominated last night, but still won the game 24-17..
DLS definitely lost the stat battle...... they'll have to do much better than that to beat Santa Margarita or Centennial.
But 👇
33!
"DLS wins 33rd straight North Coast Section title"
DLS looked terrible on Defense and extremely one dimensional on Offense.... They couldn't stop the pass on Defense and they couldn't pass at all on offense... They won't be able to stop Cen10's offense and they won't be able to score against RSM....
Last years DLS team was better, especially on the lines and RB position, DLS doesn't have a big fast power RB like they did last year to counter the smaller speed guys they have to help them sustain drives... Going to be a long night in the Open for DLS unless whoever they play turns the ball over a bunch....
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 22, 2025, 07:56 AMJust win baby!! Wasn't pretty though, got the stops when it counted. Pittsburgh reminds me of the old Long Beach Poly teams, always shitload of talent but can't seem to get over that hump.
I agree a win is a win and Congrats to DLS Forsure!.... PITT is a really good and well coached team though and has played DLS tougher than anyone the last 2 years and very well could have won both games....
I really like PITT's new Coach, they are very different then they have been historically, they are disciplined and run a good offensive scheme and no longer just try to out athlete teams with straight ahead runs and throwing bombs.... They picked apart DLS's defense and controlled the game last night, something we have never said about PITT in the past... 🤣
It's all about points, but 👇
Pittsburg has more plays (76-39), yards (396-338) and first downs (24-10), but De La Salle scores more points to pull out highly competitive Open Division final at Diablo Valley College
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 22, 2025, 07:56 AMJust win baby!! Wasn't pretty though, got the stops when it counted. Pittsburgh reminds me of the old Long Beach Poly teams, always shitload of talent but can't seem to get over that hump.
Seems like Pittsburg has been trying to get over the hump for 4 or 5 decades now.
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Nov 21, 2025, 07:51 PMThe assumption that MD is head and shoulders above IMG comes from folks who didn't watch the game, or watched casually. IMG is one of the least likeable programs in the country, and so there is added motivation for many to portray their results in as negative a light as possible.
I watched that game and it was a dogfight.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 22, 2025, 08:54 AMDLS looked terrible on Defense and extremely one dimensional on Offense.... They couldn't stop the pass on Defense and they couldn't pass at all on offense... They won't be able to stop Cen10's offense and they won't be able to score against RSM....
Last years DLS team was better, especially on the lines and RB position, DLS doesn't have a big fast power RB like they did last year to counter the smaller speed guys they have to help them sustain drives... Going to be a long night in the Open for DLS unless whoever they play turns the ball over a bunch....
Man that was a terrible game. I can give some credit to Pitt but DLS looked really bad. They looked more 'bad' than Pitt looked good IMO. Could not tackle at all. Passing was a big step backwards. Line, which has been a weakness, looked weaker. Still held them to 17 pts with all the plays they had. It looked like they had a lot of players not play or something. They shouldn't have taken a step back at this point.
I felt good about the open for about 1 week and now I don't. Lol
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 22, 2025, 09:57 AMSeems like Pittsburg has been trying to get over the hump for 4 or 5 decades now.
Lol 3 1/2 decades. Long damn time.
Quote from: wosinc on Nov 22, 2025, 10:10 AMI watched that game and it was a dogfight.
My feed kept freezing and had to refresh page at least a dozen times. Sucked. The other games were fine though.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 21, 2025, 08:00 PMMater Dei is just a mess of a team. Fumbles at the 1, stupid penalties and just bad offense.
The play before the last fg try...wtf were they thinking. Qb just dropped back and lost 10 yards and made that last attempt a lot harder and allowed kick to be blocked. This would never have happened with before but with Lara it seems to a likely occurrence.
Quote from: World Citizen on Nov 22, 2025, 01:21 PMThe play before the last fg try...wtf were they thinking. Qb just dropped back and lost 10 yards and made that last attempt a lot harder and allowed kick to be blocked. This would never have happened with before but with Lara it seems to a likely occurrence.
That Mater Dei QB was awful. His decision making perfectly illustrates Mater Dei this season in a nutshell.
Quote from: World Citizen on Nov 22, 2025, 01:13 PMMan that was a terrible game. I can give some credit to Pitt but DLS looked really bad. They looked more 'bad' than Pitt looked good IMO. Could not tackle at all. Passing was a big step backwards. Line, which has been a weakness, looked weaker. Still held them to 17 pts with all the plays they had. It looked like they had a lot of players not play or something. They shouldn't have taken a step back at this point.
I felt good about the open for about 1 week and now I don't. Lol
Totally!.... PITT looked Fired up for the game, DLS looked like they thought they were going to just show up and PITT would roll over.... The Defensive lapses were scary, lack of tackling, coverage and adjustments.... To your point, DLS is usually playing their best this time of year, what we saw last night was a step back....
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 22, 2025, 03:10 PMThat Mater Dei QB was awful. His decision making perfectly illustrates Mater Dei this season in a nutshell.
Definitely!... All he could do all year was throw 50/50 balls to Henry and scramble.... Other than that he would turn the ball over or take bad sacks.... Not sure what happened to the highly touted underclassmen and why they didn't go with him instead of this Senior Transfer.... Lara is a terrible coach, no one does less with more talent than him.... The downfall of MD is upon us.... It has been a great run for the Monarch's but getting swept by Cen10 only scoring 6 points against RSM are very bad signs for the future of MD....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 22, 2025, 03:19 PMDefinitely!... All he could do all year was throw 50/50 balls to Henry and scramble.... Other than that he would turn the ball over or take bad sacks.... Not sure what happened to the highly touted underclassmen and why they didn't go with him instead of this Senior Transfer.... Lara is a terrible coach, no one does less with more talent than him.... The downfall of MD is upon us.... It has been a great run for the Monarch's but getting swept by Cen10 only scoring 6 points against RSM are very bad signs for the future of MD....
MD wasn't as talented as last year to overcome Lara. This was the least talented MD team since 2015 easily.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 22, 2025, 04:23 PMMD wasn't as talented as last year to overcome Lara. This was the least talented MD team since 2015 easily.
And, yet, they will still finish in the top 10 in the country with a win over possible national champ Gorman. Not bad for a down year.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 22, 2025, 04:23 PMMD wasn't as talented as last year to overcome Lara. This was the least talented MD team since 2015 easily.
Bullshit
Mater Dei is the most talented team in California and it's not even really close.
Do you understand just how much talent Mater Dei has?
Nah, you don't......you just say stuff.
Could this all really be because of RL? I never thought he was able to handle the HC duties in the past . I saw that a lot when he was at LBP. He always seemed rattled and from what I have heard over the years he was not much of a team player with his coaches. Although this was years back. Just looked like was in over his head. IMHO. What a game though. Back and forth all the way till the end. CEN10 earned that win.
Quote from: On2Wheels on Nov 21, 2025, 10:31 PMI know this is supposed to be football only, but I had to watch this one on NFHS from my room at City of Hope. I'm 8 days past stem cell introduction and I still can't believe they pulled it off. Now, if I can fight liked the Huskies, maybe I'll see a championship.
Hang in there brother. I will seriously have you in my prayers. Go CEN10!!
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 22, 2025, 04:37 PMMater Dei is the most talented team in California and it's not even really close.
This is objectively incorrect. Mater Dei does not have a huge talent gap on teams like SJB and Sierra Canyon. I don't have MD's or Sierra Canyon's numbers off hand (though I have previously looked at both teams rosters this seasons in terms of CFB recruiting) but when I pulled the recruiting stats earlier this season, SJB had 33 players on their roster with FBS offers - 24 of which were 247 composite 3 stars or higher. There is no universe in which Mater Dei is "not even really close" when comparing their roster talent to teams like SJB and Sierra Canyon. I wouldn't be surprised if SJB had the better stats on paper (which makes the late season collapse even worse for this year's SJB team).
I don't know that this was Mater Dei's least talented team since 2016, but I (along with others who follow the local scene closely) have noticed this seemingly downward trend for Mater Dei. As one example, Mater Dei's Freshman team has forfeited the last two years against SJB. I agree with
@TheOC89 and others that Lara was not the right coaching hire for the Monarchs and don't really see them being the juggernaut they were over the last decade with him. Sure, they will continue to be a dangerous and elite team, but probably not the world beaters they have been recently.
Major props to coach Carson P for what he has done as RSM. Crazy how fast he turned it around.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 22, 2025, 04:37 PMBullshit
Mater Dei is the most talented team in California and it's not even really close.
Do you understand just how much talent Mater Dei has?
Nah, you don't......you just say stuff.
No, they're not.
Bosco was more talented than MD.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Nov 22, 2025, 04:49 PMThis is objectively incorrect. Mater Dei does not have a huge talent gap on teams like SJB and Sierra Canyon. I don't have MD's or Sierra Canyon's numbers off hand (though I have previously looked at both teams rosters this seasons in terms of CFB recruiting) but when I pulled the recruiting stats earlier this season, SJB had 33 players on their roster with FBS offers - 24 of which were 247 composite 3 stars or higher. There is no universe in which Mater Dei is "not even really close" when comparing their roster talent to teams like SJB and Sierra Canyon. I wouldn't be surprised if SJB had the better stats on paper (which makes the late season collapse even worse for this year's SJB team).
I don't know that this was Mater Dei's least talented team since 2016, but I (along with others who follow the local scene closely) have noticed this seemingly downward trend for Mater Dei. As one example, Mater Dei's Freshman team has forfeited the last two years against SJB. I agree with @TheOC89 and others that Lara was not the right coaching hire for the Monarchs and don't really see them being the juggernaut they were over the last decade with him. Sure, they will continue to be a dangerous and elite team, but probably not the world beaters they have been recently.
Numbers that pop out to me that wouldn't have seen the field for MD. MD really didn't have any great LBs like they usually do.
Numbers
55
33
Wouldn't start on MD's teams prior to this season. Number 6 for MD was a good player, but he was a major WR for them and he's more along the lines of a very good WR for a good HS team than a major player for an elite team like MD has been.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 22, 2025, 04:37 PMBullshit
Mater Dei is the most talented team in California and it's not even really close.
Do you understand just how much talent Mater Dei has?
Nah, you don't......you just say stuff.
When you haven't seen Mater Dei in person the last 9 years, you'll never understand the difference.
You're to busy thinking the recruiting sites are spot on.
Quote from: On2Wheels on Nov 21, 2025, 10:31 PMI know this is supposed to be football only, but I had to watch this one on NFHS from my room at City of Hope. I'm 8 days past stem cell introduction and I still can't believe they pulled it off. Now, if I can fight liked the Huskies, maybe I'll see a championship.
Keep up the good fight brother!
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 22, 2025, 04:38 PMCould this all really be because of RL? I never thought he was able to handle the HC duties in the past . I saw that a lot when he was at LBP. He always seemed rattled and from what I have heard over the years he was not much of a team player with his coaches. Although this was years back. Just looked like was in over his head. IMHO. What a game though. Back and forth all the way till the end. CEN10 earned that win.
Dude, I would kinda bash Lara back in the day. Then I kinda stepped away from that and thought he was a pretty good coach. Still do, but elite programs generally don't just have "pretty good" coaches running things. I mean in the BG game didn't he pull a bonehead move and go for 2 or something stupid like that? Agree he is not a good fit at a high profile type job.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 22, 2025, 04:38 PMCould this all really be because of RL? I never thought he was able to handle the HC duties in the past . I saw that a lot when he was at LBP. He always seemed rattled and from what I have heard over the years he was not much of a team player with his coaches. Although this was years back. Just looked like was in over his head. IMHO. What a game though. Back and forth all the way till the end. CEN10 earned that win.
I think part of the problem is him trying to come across as the players buddy instead of head coach. You lose some respect and discipline when a coach takes that route and it showed. Would Rollo have allowed some of the players antics after scoring, sure celebrating but not the disrespect shown this year. In the LBP v DLS game in 2001 coach Lad told Maurice Jones Drew he would sit the rest of the game if he showed up LBP after a TD or anytime again.
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Nov 20, 2025, 08:15 PMI don't think MD has had much, if any drop. Their season just amounts to a return to the mean of sorts. Their schedule has been as tough as ever, and the odds just point to *nobody* remaining totally dominant each and every game against that. There was some good fortune and/or best case scenarios that transpired in many of their best outcomes in years past. In 2018, IMG may well have won a best of 5, 4-1 against them. It's only through motivated delusion of fans that the narrative became MD was totally dominant over that IMG team.
They need to be careful or players will jump ship.
Quote from: Norcalnut on Nov 22, 2025, 06:06 PMI think part of the problem is him trying to come across as the players buddy instead of head coach. You lose some respect and discipline when a coach takes that route and it showed. Would Rollo have allowed some of the players antics after scoring, sure celebrating but not the disrespect shown this year. In the LBP v DLS game in 2001 coach Lad told Maurice Jones Drew he would sit the rest of the game if he showed up LBP after a TD or anytime again.
This was something else I had heard/seen. LIke Cossacks said, this is an elite team and you can't be both BFF and HC with your players. Which led to my original opinion that the duties if HC at that level are just too much for him. A coordinator? Yes. Definetly. But not a HC for an elite team.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Nov 22, 2025, 06:27 PMThis was something else I had heard/seen. LIke Cossacks said, this is an elite team and you can't be both BFF and HC with your players. Which led to my original opinion that the duties if HC at that level are just too much for him. A coordinator? Yes. Definetly. But not a HC for an elite team.
Thing is the guy was a probation officer for years (as was Lad in his very younger years). Dude should know it's like parenting. I love my kids, but sure as hell not best buddies with them. You have to have some separation. Job at a place like MD, you are a CEO.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Nov 22, 2025, 04:49 PMThis is objectively incorrect. Mater Dei does not have a huge talent gap on teams like SJB and Sierra Canyon. I don't have MD's or Sierra Canyon's numbers off hand (though I have previously looked at both teams rosters this seasons in terms of CFB recruiting) but when I pulled the recruiting stats earlier this season, SJB had 33 players on their roster with FBS offers - 24 of which were 247 composite 3 stars or higher. There is no universe in which Mater Dei is "not even really close" when comparing their roster talent to teams like SJB and Sierra Canyon. I wouldn't be surprised if SJB had the better stats on paper (which makes the late season collapse even worse for this year's SJB team).
I don't know that this was Mater Dei's least talented team since 2016, but I (along with others who follow the local scene closely) have noticed this seemingly downward trend for Mater Dei. As one example, Mater Dei's Freshman team has forfeited the last two years against SJB. I agree with @TheOC89 and others that Lara was not the right coaching hire for the Monarchs and don't really see them being the juggernaut they were over the last decade with him. Sure, they will continue to be a dangerous and elite team, but probably not the world beaters they have been recently.
You really can't use that philosophy when talking about California and especially the Trinity League.
Just too many players in the Trinity League that are rated 3-star prospects that have a couple measly FCS offers and some with no offers whatsoever. Not saying those players are not good players they're just not 3-star prospects.
In the Trinity League committing to Sacramento State is obviously a big deal
Sacramento State is a decent FCS schoo,l but no better than FCS Southeastern Louisiana.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 22, 2025, 05:09 PMWhen you haven't seen Mater Dei in person the last 9 years, you'll never understand the difference.
You're to busy thinking the recruiting sites are spot on.
I don't even know what this means.
That's like saying 3-loss USC is the least talented team in the last 15 years or however many years you want to throw out there.. 🤠 Ha!
Much like this guy at Mater Dei maybe Lincoln Riley is not the right fit at USC.
Sooner or later USC's going to have to deal with that as will Mater Dei, I guess
On paper Mater Dei should have the most lethal passing offense in the nation.
Huge OL
3* QB Wisconsin
5* WR Ohio State
4* WR Ohio State
4* WR Georgia
4* TE USC
The head coach at Mater Dei is definitely not a pass offense guru. 🤠 Ha!
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 22, 2025, 05:08 PMNumbers that pop out to me that wouldn't have seen the field for MD. MD really didn't have any great LBs like they usually do.
Numbers
55
33
Wouldn't start on MD's teams prior to this season. Number 6 for MD was a good player, but he was a major WR for them and he's more along the lines of a very good WR for a good HS team than a major player for an elite team like MD has been.
@Steeler01 says this Mater Dei team is the least talented Mater Dei team in the last 10 years because of #55 and #33,!!!
Damn you #55 and #33.
🤠🤠🤠 ha!
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 23, 2025, 06:00 AMOn paper Mater Dei should have the most lethal passing offense in the nation.
Huge OL
3* QB Wisconsin
5* WR Ohio State
4* WR Ohio State
4* WR Georgia
4* TE USC
The head coach at Mater Dei is definitely not a pass offense guru. 🤠 Ha!
And this is why going off of ratings by recruiting services is a joke.
At least 3 of those players have no business with the ranking they have.
QB
WR
WR
I'll let you try to decide.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 23, 2025, 05:33 AMI don't even know what this means.
Of course you don't.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 23, 2025, 07:32 AMAnd this is why going off of ratings by recruiting services is a joke.
At least 3 of those players have no business with the ranking they have.
QB
WR
WR
I'll let you try to decide.
So you're calling Wisconsin, Ohio State and Georgia ignorant when it comes to high school football recruiting...
@Steeler01 is The Guru
I think I've decided you're an idiot.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 23, 2025, 08:02 AMSo you're calling Wisconsin, Ohio State and Georgia ignorant when it comes to high school football recruiting...
@Steeler01 is The Guru
I think I've decided you're an idiot.
You think those guys hit on every recruit?
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 23, 2025, 08:11 AMYou think those guys hit on every recruit?
Nobody hits on everything in ANYTHING!!
I don't think you fully understand how recruiting works.
Who's overrated on Santa Margarita?
Is their 3* QB Trace Johnson who's committed to Tulane overrated too?
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 23, 2025, 08:40 AMNobody hits on everything in ANYTHING!!
I don't think you fully understand how recruiting works.
Who's overrated on Santa Margarita?
Is their 3* QB Trace Johnson who's committed to Tulane overrated too?
He may be overrated just like the MD QB, RSM's offense revolves around #4, have you even seen them play?.... 🤣
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 23, 2025, 08:02 AMSo you're calling Wisconsin, Ohio State and Georgia ignorant when it comes to high school football recruiting...
@Steeler01 is The Guru
I think I've decided you're an idiot.
How many Great QB's go to Wisconsin?.... Wisconsin stinks, they will take anyone they can get.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 23, 2025, 11:09 AMHe may be overrated just like the MD QB, RSM's offense revolves around #4, have you even seen them play?.... 🤣
Yeah, I've seen Santa Margarita play several times this year. Trace Johnson looks pretty good to me when they let him throw the ball.
and,
Mater Dei QB Ryan Hopkins (the overrated Wisconsin commit) threw for 300 yards and 5 TDs vs St John Bosco.
Doesn't say much for St John Bosco.
I don't want to hear about no YAC. The dude threw some dimes.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 23, 2025, 08:40 AMNobody hits on everything in ANYTHING!!
I don't think you fully understand how recruiting works.
Who's overrated on Santa Margarita?
Is their 3* QB Trace Johnson who's committed to Tulane overrated too?
Johnson's a six-foot-tall quarterback with 15 touchdown passes and less than 100 rushing yards as a senior; pretty objectively he's gotten more collegiate attention than his profile would otherwise dictate.
As for the Mater Dei quarterback, let's engage in a thought experiment and say that at the end of this season Wisconsin chooses to fire their HC (not outside the realm of possibilities). The new HC decides not to honor the offer to the MDQB, and MDQB is now back on the market. If that were to happen, what's the best outcome he could expect considering that 9 of the remaining 11 schools who have offered him already have QB commits, and five of those are guys ranked definitively better than MDQB.
When I see the nation's top prep program have a QB with measurables but nothing but a bunch of mid-tier D1 offers that's a red flag to me. You know every scout in the country has seen MDQB play and outside of UCF, Kentucky, Wisconsin, and a host of other "eh" programs the response has been "no thanks".
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 23, 2025, 12:43 PMYeah, I've seen Santa Margarita play several times this year. Trace Johnson looks pretty good to me when they let him throw the ball.
and,
Mater Dei QB Ryan Hopkins (the overrated Wisconsin commit) threw for 300 yards and 5 TDs vs St John Bosco.
Doesn't say much for St John Bosco.
I don't want to hear about no YAC. The dude threw some dimes.
HA!.... The Reason RSM doesn't let him throw the ball is he is not that good.... And they did let him throw the Ball, 35+ times against both BG and Servite and he stunk.... He Stunk against SJB as well, he had 13 completions 9 of them to #4, If he didn't have #4 he struggled terribly....
I don't care what the MD kid did in 1 game against SJB, he stunk the rest of the season.... Didn't even complete 60% of his passes and 12 of his 16 TD's went to 2 players.... The Top 2 wideouts where he just threw up 50/50 balls.... 🤣
Anyone who has watched both of these QB's play can tell you they are not D1 players and won't start at the next level....
Quote from: Wooderson on Nov 23, 2025, 12:48 PMJohnson's a six-foot-tall quarterback with 15 touchdown passes and less than 100 rushing yards as a senior; pretty objectively he's gotten more collegiate attention than his profile would otherwise dictate.
As for the Mater Dei quarterback, let's engage in a thought experiment and say that at the end of this season Wisconsin chooses to fire their HC (not outside the realm of possibilities). The new HC decides not to honor the offer to the MDQB, and MDQB is now back on the market. If that were to happen, what's the best outcome he could expect considering that 9 of the remaining 11 schools who have offered him already have QB commits, and five of those are guys ranked definitively better than MDQB.
When I see the nation's top prep program have a QB with measurables but nothing but a bunch of mid-tier D1 offers that's a red flag to me. You know every scout in the country has seen MDQB play and outside of UCF, Kentucky, Wisconsin, and a host of other "eh" programs the response has been "no thanks".
Exactly!!.... Neither of those QB's are D1 material, no one is knocking down their door to have them play for them.... RSM had no other option at QB, But MD going with Hopkins was a big mistake and it showed all year.... The Coaching at MD is bringing them down....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 23, 2025, 01:06 PMHA!.... The Reason RSM doesn't let him throw the ball is he is not that good.... And they did let him throw the Ball, 35+ times against both BG and Servite and he stunk.... He Stunk against SJB as well, he had 13 completions 9 of them to #4, If he didn't have #4 he struggled terribly....
I don't care what the MD kid did in 1 game against SJB, he stunk the rest of the season.... Didn't even complete 60% of his passes and 12 of his 16 TD's went to 2 players.... The Top 2 wideouts where he just threw up 50/50 balls.... 🤣
Anyone who has watched both of these QB's play can tell you they are not D1 players and won't start at the next level....
Now you can say you have seen the highlights of Santa Margarita vs Sierra Canyon.
Try watching a game. 🤠 Ha!
https://www.maxpreps.com/video/watch/santa-margarita-rides-trace-johnson-s-efficient-night-to-21-9-victory-over-sierra-canyon/?v=19637361-083f-44f3-8ac6-52257f188104
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 22, 2025, 04:23 PMMD wasn't as talented as last year to overcome Lara. This was the least talented MD team since 2015 easily.
Wrong. It was very talented. The difference is that we had a huge downgrade at the QB position that could not be overcome by the incredibly talented roster.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 23, 2025, 04:25 PMWrong. It was very talented. The difference is that we had a huge downgrade at the QB position that could not be overcome by the incredibly talented roster.
Very talented, and MD talented the last couple of years are two different things.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 23, 2025, 01:52 PMNow you can say you have seen the highlights of Santa Margarita vs Sierra Canyon.
Try watching a game. 🤠 Ha!
https://www.maxpreps.com/video/watch/santa-margarita-rides-trace-johnson-s-efficient-night-to-21-9-victory-over-sierra-canyon/?v=19637361-083f-44f3-8ac6-52257f188104
HA!!... You mean the Sierra Canyon who you touted as the #2 team in Your Poll, who was a total fraud and played a crap schedule?.... That Sierra Canyon?.... Doubt they would even beat Servite this year.... 🤣
I don't have to watch the highlights to know that he didn't even crack 200 yards passing and if he threw any TD's they probably went to #4....
Quote from: Wooderson on Nov 23, 2025, 12:48 PMJohnson's a six-foot-tall quarterback with 15 touchdown passes and less than 100 rushing yards as a senior; pretty objectively he's gotten more collegiate attention than his profile would otherwise dictate.
As for the Mater Dei quarterback, let's engage in a thought experiment and say that at the end of this season Wisconsin chooses to fire their HC (not outside the realm of possibilities). The new HC decides not to honor the offer to the MDQB, and MDQB is now back on the market. If that were to happen, what's the best outcome he could expect considering that 9 of the remaining 11 schools who have offered him already have QB commits, and five of those are guys ranked definitively better than MDQB.
When I see the nation's top prep program have a QB with measurables but nothing but a bunch of mid-tier D1 offers that's a red flag to me. You know every scout in the country has seen MDQB play and outside of UCF, Kentucky, Wisconsin, and a host of other "eh" programs the response has been "no thanks".
I personally think 3* QB Luke Fahey from Mission Viejo could possibly be overrated, but then again I didn't watch every single game Mission Viejo played this year. He didn't look very impressive the couple times I did see him play...... looked terrible against the Hillbilly team.
He's committed Ohio State and doesn't really look like the kind of QB Ohio State recruits. BUT, maybe they know more than I do.
https://247sports.com/player/luke-fahey-46146282/
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 23, 2025, 04:25 PMWrong. It was very talented. The difference is that we had a huge downgrade at the QB position that could not be overcome by the incredibly talented roster.
You almost had a great post. 🤠
The QB's normally the guy they blame though, right?
I mean you did beat STA, Bishop Gorman, SJB and etc with that totally terrible QB that was such a downgrade.
To me this year's version of Mater Dei just wasn't very disciplined in several phases of the game.
But that's just me.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 23, 2025, 07:43 PMHA!!... You mean the Sierra Canyon who you touted as the #2 team in Your Poll, who was a total fraud and played a crap schedule?.... That Sierra Canyon?.... Doubt they would even beat Servite this year.... 🤣
I don't have to watch the highlights to know that he didn't even crack 200 yards passing and if he threw any TD's they probably went to #4....
So I had Sierra Canyon ranked a couple spots higher than the National Polls. Everyone was sold on Sierra Canyon.
Who cares?
Everyone was sold on Mater Dei then St John Bosco too. 🤠 Ha!
AND
Everyone beats Servite!
Is Centennial's QB Dominick Catalano overrated?
He's 5'10 175 lbs and rated a 2-star with 0 offers.
I think 247sports gives every player in California some "stars". They don't even do 2-stars in Louisiana. Crazy stuff.
🤠 Ha!4
https://247sports.com/player/dominick-catalano-46152022/
Catalano passed for 290 Yards, rushed for 2 TDs and threw the game winning TD pass.
So in the Southern Section Final we have an overrated 3* QB vs the overrated 2* QB.💪
I blame the boosters/alumni of MD for this season. Had they kept coach Frank, they would be undefeated and national champs, again. lol
Quote from: On2Wheels on Nov 21, 2025, 10:31 PMI know this is supposed to be football only, but I had to watch this one on NFHS from my room at City of Hope. I'm 8 days past stem cell introduction and I still can't believe they pulled it off. Now, if I can fight liked the Huskies, maybe I'll see a championship.
That sounds serious. I was stage 4, fully metastatic. That was 8 years ago. I've missed some big games because of hospital stays. But I've been in full remission for 3 years now. Hang tough. I'll make sure to include you in my prayers.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 23, 2025, 08:40 PMI personally think 3* QB Luke Fahey from Mission Viejo could possibly be overrated, but then again I didn't watch every single game Mission Viejo played this year. He didn't look very impressive the couple times I did see him play...... looked terrible against the Hillbilly team.
He's committed Ohio State and doesn't really look like the kind of QB Ohio State recruits. BUT, maybe they know more than I do.
https://247sports.com/player/luke-fahey-46146282/
Fahey is a three year starter with fewer than ten interceptions over those three seasons and is a legitimate dual threat QB. None of that means he's going to be a success at the next level (odds are none of these guys will be) but it's pretty easy to understand why he has 27 D1 offers (five of those are from teams currently positioned to make this year's playoffs; rather convenient that you left these parts out) and viewed as a better prospect than Johnson.
Quote from: Wooderson on Nov 24, 2025, 04:15 PMFahey is a three year starter with fewer than ten interceptions over those three seasons and is a legitimate dual threat QB. None of that means he's going to be a success at the next level (odds are none of these guys will be) but it's pretty easy to understand why he has 27 D1 offers (five of those are from teams currently positioned to make this year's playoffs; rather convenient that you left these parts out) and viewed as a better prospect than Johnson.
I didn't leave anything out.
I posted his profile for all to see and he's an Ohio State commit..
I watched him play 2 complete games this year and wasn't impressed. When you hear Ohio State commit you expect to see "really special", right?
But like I said in my post maybe Ohio State knows more than I do.
I read where Mater Dei's 3* overrated QB Ryan Hopkins ran a 10.66 100 Meters this year ........ that's very fast.
Does Mater Dei even use any of that speed?
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 24, 2025, 05:36 PMI read where Mater Dei's 3* overrated QB Ryan Hopkins ran a 10.66 100 Meters this year ........ that's very fast.
Does Mater Dei even use any of that speed?
You tell us, you're obviously the expert on Mater Dei's talent
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Nov 24, 2025, 05:43 PMYou tell us, you're obviously the expert on Mater Dei's talent
What I can tell you is he had 500 Yards rushing and 8 rushing TDs at JSerra Catholic last year.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 24, 2025, 05:36 PMI read where Mater Dei's 3* overrated QB Ryan Hopkins ran a 10.66 100 Meters this year ........ that's very fast.
Does Mater Dei even use any of that speed?
Maybe he should run Track then because he can't pass.... 🤣
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 24, 2025, 05:57 PMWhat I can tell you is he had 500 Yards rushing and 8 rushing TDs at JSerra Catholic last year.
JSerra.... 🤣.... Didn't they just fire their Coach because they stink?.... 🤣🤣
San Diego Open Championship tonight, Carlsbad Leads SDCC 10-0 at half and starts with the Ball....
SDCC had 6 penalties called on them on 1 drive Negating a long run and 2 TD's.... Then they had 1st and goal on the 1, 2 penalties later they are on the 10 and QB throws a Pick in the End Zone.... 🤣
SDCC with 2 turnovers is shooting themselves in the foot, but Carlsbad has some nice players, Athletic lineman with good size and their QB looks good!.... Should be a great second half....
16-0 Carlsbad Start of the 4rh.... SDCC has the ball at the 30 driving.... They have got to score here or game over.... Carlsbad looks really good!....
SDCC scores 20 unanswered points in the 4Th Quarter to win 20-16!..., Great Game!!.... Was very impressed with Carlsbad, fast and physical team with good RB's and Good QB who I believe they said is going to Cornell....
SDCC awaits the SS D2 winner for the D1-AA Regional!....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 24, 2025, 08:05 PMMaybe he should run Track then because he can't pass.... 🤣
He does run Track, look him up .....and he can pass!
Not every high school football QB puts up video game numbers every week 🤠 🤣 Ha!
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 26, 2025, 12:30 AMHe does run Track, look him up .....and he can pass!
Not every high school football QB puts up video game numbers every week 🤠 🤣 Ha!
Glad to hear it!.... Maybe he can stick to Track then because he can't pass.... A Completion percentage in the 50's in High school is terrible.... Especially at MD.... He has no touch on the ball, and only 16 TD passes with 2 of the Top WR's in the Country and a Top TE in the country.... He had a worse year than your Buddy Arch Manning.... 🤣
Some of the people here bashing Raul Lara need to remember one thing: the internet is forever (i.e., prepgridiron.com may be dead, but it's still online).
Some of these "I never thought he was a good coach" comments were "Great hire!" about a year and a half ago.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 26, 2025, 01:09 PMSome of the people here bashing Raul Lara need to remember one thing: the internet is forever (i.e., prepgridiron.com may be dead, but it's still online).
Some of these "I never thought he was a good coach" comments were "Great hire!" about a year and a half ago.
HA!... If one of them was me the my bad!.... I can't remember what I said a year and a half ago because I have had too many Pliny's when reading these awesome HSFB Boards!... 🤣🍻
So in all fairness, what's your assessment of Lara and MD?....
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Nov 22, 2025, 04:49 PMThis is objectively incorrect. Mater Dei does not have a huge talent gap on teams like SJB and Sierra Canyon. I don't have MD's or Sierra Canyon's numbers off hand (though I have previously looked at both teams rosters this seasons in terms of CFB recruiting) but when I pulled the recruiting stats earlier this season, SJB had 33 players on their roster with FBS offers - 24 of which were 247 composite 3 stars or higher. There is no universe in which Mater Dei is "not even really close" when comparing their roster talent to teams like SJB and Sierra Canyon. I wouldn't be surprised if SJB had the better stats on paper (which makes the late season collapse even worse for this year's SJB team).
I don't know that this was Mater Dei's least talented team since 2016, but I (along with others who follow the local scene closely) have noticed this seemingly downward trend for Mater Dei. As one example, Mater Dei's Freshman team has forfeited the last two years against SJB. I agree with @TheOC89 and others that Lara was not the right coaching hire for the Monarchs and don't really see them being the juggernaut they were over the last decade with him. Sure, they will continue to be a dangerous and elite team, but probably not the world beaters they have been recently.
As I've said in previous seasons, eventually MD will have to either see a noticeable talent drop-off OR they will have to sacrifice some/many of the elements of the program that made it special in the first place. You can't try to construct a program with good students who are upstanding citizens, put the team first and respond well to coaching and then expect to also have the most physically dominant group of players. You can achieve that once or maybe even a few seasons (as they have), but it's impossible to sustain both every season.
All of the top programs in the country face this challenge constantly to varying degrees.
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 24, 2025, 05:36 PMI read where Mater Dei's 3* overrated QB Ryan Hopkins ran a 10.66 100 Meters this year ........ that's very fast.
Does Mater Dei even use any of that speed?
And I watched his hudl from JSerra and he indeed can fly. MD probably should have taken advantage of that more. But, that would've involved more designed QB runs and some option plays. They might have wanted to run a more "pro" or "sophisticated" offense for brand management, marketing and recruiting. (it's nuts that I have to say this, but welcome to 2025)
Hopkins had a total of 136 rushing yards for the entire season at MD. He had 113 in one game (San Diego Lincoln) alone last year at JSerra.
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Nov 27, 2025, 07:56 AMHopkins had a total of 136 rushing yards for the entire season at MD. He had 113 in one game (San Diego Lincoln) alone last year at JSerra.
I am sure his passing stats were terrible at JSerra last year as well.... If he couldn't complete 65% of his passes and throw for 30 or more TD's with all that talent at MD there is no way he will make it as a D1 QB.... He is the worst QB MD has had since in the last 10 years or maybe even since before Matt Barkley was there....
The fact MD has to settle for him really says something about The Raul Lara Affect... They are not attracting top QB's like they have historically.... And the fact that the Highly Touted Infererra Kid couldn't beat him out when he is a below average passer, means MD is in big trouble at the QB position where they have been the Gold Standard in So Cal....
I would think that Top QB's who want to play in Orange County will look to play for Carson Palmer at RSM where they can be developed and Mentored....
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 26, 2025, 12:30 AMHe does run Track, look him up .....and he can't pass!
Not every high school football QB puts up video game numbers every week 🤠 🤣 Ha!
FIFY
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 27, 2025, 09:59 AMI am sure his passing stats were terrible at JSerra last year as well.... If he couldn't complete 65% of his passes and throw for 30 or more TD's with all that talent at MD there is no way he will make it as a D1 QB.... He is the worst QB MD has had since in the last 10 years or maybe even since before Matt Barkley was there....
The fact MD has to settle for him really says something about The Raul Lara Affect... They are not attracting top QB's like they have historically.... And the fact that the Highly Touted Infererra Kid couldn't beat him out when he is a below average passer, means MD is in big trouble at the QB position where they have been the Gold Standard in So Cal....
I would think that Top QB's who want to play in Orange County will look to play for Carson Palmer at RSM where they can be developed and Mentored....
Inferrera was injured early in the season and had major knee surgery. The backup most of the season was a freshman.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 27, 2025, 10:11 AMInferrera was injured early in the season and had major knee surgery. The backup most of the season was a freshman.
Got it!... Will he be back and be the starter next year, he's only a Sophomore currently isn't he?.... Was he injured when competing with Hopkins, or were they going to go with Hopkins as soon as he came to MD?....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 27, 2025, 10:54 AMGot it!... Will he be back and be the starter next year, he's only a Sophomore currently isn't he?.... Was he injured when competing with Hopkins, or were they going to go with Hopkins as soon as he came to MD?....
He will be a senior next year. Hopkins seems to have been given the spot when he came. It will be interesting to see whether MD goes with Inferrera next season or with the current freshman.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 26, 2025, 07:08 AMGlad to hear it!.... Maybe he can stick to Track then because he can't pass.... A Completion percentage in the 50's in High school is terrible.... Especially at MD.... He has no touch on the ball, and only 16 TD passes with 2 of the Top WR's in the Country and a Top TE in the country.... He had a worse year than your Buddy Arch Manning.... 🤣
😄
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 27, 2025, 09:59 AMI am sure his passing stats were terrible at JSerra last year as well.... If he couldn't complete 65% of his passes and throw for 30 or more TD's with all that talent at MD there is no way he will make it as a D1 QB.... He is the worst QB MD has had since in the last 10 years or maybe even since before Matt Barkley was there....
The fact MD has to settle for him really says something about The Raul Lara Affect... They are not attracting top QB's like they have historically.... And the fact that the Highly Touted Infererra Kid couldn't beat him out when he is a below average passer, means MD is in big trouble at the QB position where they have been the Gold Standard in So Cal....
I would think that Top QB's who want to play in Orange County will look to play for Carson Palmer at RSM where they can be developed and Mentored....
Last I checked, they have another QB with lots of offers who didn't seem to play much. (Infuria? don't feel like looking it up haha)
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 27, 2025, 10:11 AMInferrera was injured early in the season and had major knee surgery. The backup most of the season was a freshman.
Ahh, answers my question above. Thanks
Mater Dei QB Ryan Hopkins 16 TD passes?
St John Bosco-5
Bishop Gorman-3
St Thomas Aquinas, FL-3
Man, did Hopkins even play in the other 8 games? 🤠 Ha!
I think Mater Dei may have an OC issue.
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on Nov 27, 2025, 07:53 AMAnd I watched his hudl from JSerra and he indeed can fly. MD probably should have taken advantage of that more. But, that would've involved more designed QB runs and some option plays. They might have wanted to run a more "pro" or "sophisticated" offense for brand management, marketing and recruiting. (it's nuts that I have to say this, but welcome to 2025)
This is one of the better posts in this thread!
Santa Margarita with overrated QB Trace Johnson (Tulane commit) throwing Centennial around like a ragdoll.
Two TD passes for Johnson already.
Maybe Santa Margarita was the best team in California all along.
Of course Centennial could come back too
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 28, 2025, 08:26 PMSanta Margarita with overrated QB Trace Johnson (Tulane commit) throwing Centennial around like a ragdoll.
Two TD passes for Johnson already.
Maybe Santa Margarita was the best team in California all along.
Of course Centennial could come back to.
Centennial isn't coming back. Santa Margarita is a terrible match up for Centennial.
Bosco is/ was the best team. They just lost.
Santa Margarita up 28 -7 at half.......QB Trace Johnson has 3 TD passes already.
RSM Dominating Cen10 28-7 at the Half.... RSM DLine is very good!....
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 28, 2025, 08:27 PMCentennial isn't coming back. Santa Margarita is a terrible match up for Centennial.
Bosco is/ was the best team. They just lost.
Probably right.... Cen10 did come back last time they played from a similar deficit I think and lost in OT.... Doesn't look good though, The RSM QB is playing well and Cen10's offense doesn't have any answers.... RSM DLine is really good!....
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 28, 2025, 08:40 PMSanta Margarita up 28 -7 at half.......QB Trace Johnson has 3 TD passes already.
Kid looks good!... He is much Better than the MD QB.... If MD had this kid, they would have been undefeated!.... 🤣
Don't know what Cen10 is doing running up the middle when they can't get any yards.... Stopped on 4th and one on the 6....
Then they give up a 90+ Yard TD to Mosley now it's 35-7.... 🤣
Wow!.... RSM with a 42-7 Boatrace of Cen10.... How about that for Carson Palmer!....
And how about a Huge Whiff by MD on Vandermede.... He won The CCS open at Saint Ignacious in San Francisco last year and his kid was an absolute Beast.... Somehow Carson Palmer Hires LV an MD Legend, who brings his kid of course and wins SSD1, and MD has Lara... 🤣
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUImNM13-manRIvPV2w94BWiBygi43fWyVOMKZ5WPk8Q&s=10)
Centennial is fired.
Again
Quote from: SeaShells21 on Nov 28, 2025, 10:11 PM(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUImNM13-manRIvPV2w94BWiBygi43fWyVOMKZ5WPk8Q&s=10)
Centennial is fired.
Again
HA!!... Bo Kidding!.... Wanted to see the Public School win!... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 26, 2025, 10:58 PMHA!... If one of them was me the my bad!.... I can't remember what I said a year and a half ago because I have had too many Pliny's when reading these awesome HSFB Boards!... 🤣🍻
So in all fairness, what's your assessment of Lara and MD?....
In terms of quality of talent and maximum level of play, they clearly are among the best, if not the best in the nation. Wins over STA, BG, and SJB is a resume no one else has.
The problem appears to be focus. Does that ultimately go back to Lara? Probably, but these players have had everyone riding their jock for the last couple of years (and the program for several more). At some point, teenagers will believe their own hype. The issues at QB this year were well-documented and that didn't help matters. Not all challenges can be overcome by a single coach, though.
Fell behind Centennial, then stormed back only to fall at the end in the first game. Fell behind SJB and stormed back, but that time pulled off the win.
But I do think that the program (and many around it) developed an air of entitlement and it bit them in the ass... maybe a little bit like DLS in 2006. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing for the continued development of the players and program. However, this Santa Margarita team may have a say in whether the Monarchs ever do return to dominance.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 28, 2025, 08:58 PMKid looks good!... He is much Better than the MD QB.... If MD had this kid, they would have been undefeated!.... 🤣
If MD had average QB play they would have been undefeated.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 29, 2025, 04:38 AMIf MD had average QB play they would have been undefeated.
I thought you were better than this, but I was wrong.
Quote from: Bodysurf on Nov 29, 2025, 04:38 AMIf MD had average QB play they would have been undefeated.
Totally!.... I hope you guys Dump Lara and Hire LV.... It's no coincidence that RSM win this year as soon as they brought him in...
You see the Same Traits in RSM that you saw in his Championship SI Team.... Tough, Diciplined defense and an offense that never beats themselves with mistakes and kids that are class acts on the field.... He is exactly what MD needs to keep things rolling....
The big issue is you have a Servite guy running the show, so not sure the right move will be made.... 🤣
Quote from: Cal 14 on Nov 29, 2025, 02:08 AMIn terms of quality of talent and maximum level of play, they clearly are among the best, if not the best in the nation. Wins over STA, BG, and SJB is a resume no one else has.
The problem appears to be focus. Does that ultimately go back to Lara? Probably, but these players have had everyone riding their jock for the last couple of years (and the program for several more). At some point, teenagers will believe their own hype. The issues at QB this year were well-documented and that didn't help matters. Not all challenges can be overcome by a single coach, though.
Fell behind Centennial, then stormed back only to fall at the end in the first game. Fell behind SJB and stormed back, but that time pulled off the win.
But I do think that the program (and many around it) developed an air of entitlement and it bit them in the ass... maybe a little bit like DLS in 2006. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing for the continued development of the players and program. However, this Santa Margarita team may have a say in whether the Monarchs ever do return to dominance.
Totally agree.... I think it's also no coincidence that RSM gets over the hump this year by bringing in an MD legend like LV.... You saw what a great Job LV did at SI in winning the CCS Open last year, he is what MD needs as a leader....
Question for some of you Cali guys. I notice some of the open section runner ups (Pittsburg, SM Serra) played an additional game this weekend. Why don't some of those winners (DLS, Folsom, Riordan) play to see who truly should play RSM for the state title?
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Nov 29, 2025, 09:53 AMQuestion for some of you Cali guys. I notice some of the open section runner ups (Pittsburg, SM Serra) played an additional game this weekend. Why don't some of those winners (DLS, Folsom, Riordan) play to see who truly should play RSM for the state title?
It used to be that way.... There used to be a "Play In" Game for the open spot in both Nor Cal and So Cal.... But after 2 tremendous beat down of Folsom by DLS in those games, Folsom and the SJS section Commissioner lobbied the CIF to change the rules so the #2 team in Nor Cal wouldn't have to play DLS to go to the Open so Folsom and their Golden Boy QB Jake Browning wouldn't go all 3 years without playing in a SBG....
So now in Nor Cal the Open Rep is Chosen by Ranking, Committee etc.... It truly is a stupid format, their should be a true Nor Cal Championship game but there are 4 different Sections that would have to agree with it and it doesn't benefit any of them to make that happen because what they all want is to move as many teams as possible from their sections forward to Regional Play in games....
So cal is different because all the best teams and Leagues are in The Southern Section and the San Diego section doesn't care about plying in The Open game, they are happy with playing for D1AA against the SSD2 winner.... So it is cleaner down there...
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 29, 2025, 10:25 AMIt used to be that way.... There used to be a "Play In" Game for the open spot in both Nor Cal and So Cal.... But after 2 tremendous beat down of Folsom by DLS in those games, Folsom and the SJS section Commissioner lobbied the CIF to change the rules so the #2 team in Nor Cal wouldn't have to play DLS to go to the Open so Folsom and their Golden Boy QB Jake Browning wouldn't go all 3 years without playing in a SBG....
So now in Nor Cal the Open Rep is Chosen by Ranking, Committee etc.... It truly is a stupid format, their should be a true Nor Cal Championship game but there are 4 different Sections that would have to agree with it and it doesn't benefit any of them to make that happen because what they all want is to move as many teams as possible from their sections forward to Regional Play in games....
So cal is different because all the best teams and Leagues are in The Southern Section and the San Diego section doesn't care about plying in The Open game, they are happy with playing for D1AA against the SSD2 winner.... So it is cleaner down there...
So, the big boy game will, obviously, be RSM/DLS and the AA game will be SD Cathedral/Folsom. Will Riordan get to play in a bowl game? I wouldn't mind seeing them play the Lincoln/Granite Hills or the San Clemente/LosAl winner.
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Nov 29, 2025, 10:37 AMSo, the big boy game will, obviously, be RSM/DLS and the AA game will be SD Cathedral/Folsom. Will Riordan get to play in a bowl game? I wouldn't mind seeing them play the Lincoln/Granite Hills or the San Clemente/LosAl winner.
The only game that is Decided right now is RSM/DLS for The Open.... The rest have Regional Championship games and will look like this....
Nor Cal D1AA- Folsom vs Riordan- This should be a Great Matchup!... I think Riordan wins by Multiple Scores, they are really good!....
Nor Cal D1 A- PITT vs Clovis East or Serra or possibly SJS D2 winner but probably SJS D2 winner plays Serra in D2AA Regional...
So Cal D1AA- SDCC (SD Open Champ) vs Los Al/ San Clemente Winner (SSD2)
So Cal D 1A- SD Lincoln/Granite Hills Winner vs SS D3 Winner
There are a whole bunch more, but I mainly pay attention to the Top 3.... Will watch some of the other games Forsure but couldn't tell you the teams in play for all of those right now.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 29, 2025, 11:33 AMThe only game that is Decided right now is RSM/DLS for The Open.... The rest have Regional Championship games and will look like this....
Nor Cal D1AA- Folsom vs Riordan- This should be a Great Matchup!... I think Riordan wins by Multiple Scores, they are really good!....
Nor Cal D1 A- PITT vs Clovis East or Serra or possibly SJS D2 winner but probably SJS D2 winner plays Serra in D2AA Regional...
So Cal D1AA- SDCC (SD Open Champ) vs Los Al/ San Clemente Winner (SSD2)
So Cal D 1A- SD Lincoln/Granite Hills Winner vs SS D3 Winner
There are a whole bunch more, but I mainly pay attention to the Top 3.... Will watch some of the other games Forsure but couldn't tell you the teams in play for all of those right now.... 🤣
San Diego open winner should be able to beat Los Al or San Clemente.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Nov 29, 2025, 12:53 PMSan Diego open winner should be able to beat Los Al or San Clemente.
Agree.... I think SDCC wins the game.... I believe they would beat Folsom if they play, Folsoms Defense is just Bad and Their OLine is not very good either....
I believe Riordan will beat Folsom, they will be a Tough matchup for the So Cal winner, they are a very good and talented team.... The only way the lose to Folsom is if they make a bunch of bad mistakes and Turnovers....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 28, 2025, 09:04 PMDon't know what Cen10 is doing running up the middle when they can't get any yards.... Stopped on 4th and one on the 6....
Then they give up a 90+ Yard TD to Mosley now it's 35-7.... 🤣
That kid Mosley was insane!! He will make any QB look like a 5*. He is easily the best player I have seen play this year. Where is he going? Whoever gets him is going to get a huge gift.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Nov 29, 2025, 10:25 AMIt used to be that way.... There used to be a "Play In" Game for the open spot in both Nor Cal and So Cal.... But after 2 tremendous beat down of Folsom by DLS in those games, Folsom and the SJS section Commissioner lobbied the CIF to change the rules so the #2 team in Nor Cal wouldn't have to play DLS to go to the Open so Folsom and their Golden Boy QB Jake Browning wouldn't go all 3 years without playing in a SBG....
So now in Nor Cal the Open Rep is Chosen by Ranking, Committee etc.... It truly is a stupid format, their should be a true Nor Cal Championship game but there are 4 different Sections that would have to agree with it and it doesn't benefit any of them to make that happen because what they all want is to move as many teams as possible from their sections forward to Regional Play in games....
So cal is different because all the best teams and Leagues are in The Southern Section and the San Diego section doesn't care about plying in The Open game, they are happy with playing for D1AA against the SSD2 winner.... So it is cleaner down there...
AKA: The Folsom Rule
Quote from: Redzone on Nov 29, 2025, 06:31 AMI thought you were better than this, but I was wrong.
Sense of entitlement... just like I said.
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Nov 29, 2025, 09:53 AMQuestion for some of you Cali guys. I notice some of the open section runner ups (Pittsburg, SM Serra) played an additional game this weekend. Why don't some of those winners (DLS, Folsom, Riordan) play to see who truly should play RSM for the state title?
Most of what you'll read here from others on this is urban legend. There's no proof that the Folsom program had anything to do with this change. The facts of the matter is that when this was put up for a vote, all 10 CIF sections voted to eliminate the Open regional game. All 10, not just the SJS.
For years, the SS had been trying to figure out how to place their top teams in one playoff division. By switching to an in-year evaluation via calpreps/hsratings, they were finally able to do that. By virtue of that, they also eliminated any possibility (or need) of an Open regional in SoCal. SS D-I was obviously going to be a lot better than SS D-II, LA City Section teams can barely walk and chew gum at the same time, so that only leaves San Diego Section Open champ as a possible candidate. Would the SDS choose to eliminate its top team by having them play the SS D-I winner or take their chances against SS D-II. Easy answer, right? Given the fact that not a single SDS team has challenged either Mater Dei or St. John Bosco in non-league, it's clear where their stance is.
Several sections have formatted their playoffs to get as many quality teams (or just teams, in general) to state bowl playoffs as possible. The North Coast and Central Coast sections found a work around the rules to allow their respective #2 teams to advance. The Sac-Joaquin eliminated a rule that forced traditional D-I league champs into the D-I playoffs (this applies D-II champ St. Mary's this year), and others have far too many divisions for the size of their sections (i.e., NCS, LACS, SDS, Central Section).
So, no, it wasn't one section (and certainly not one team) that thought this was a good idea. Yes, the idea did originate from the SJS commissioner at the time, but all ideas have to start somewhere. In fact, the concept of bringing back state playoffs also originated from the same SJS dude.
Many in NorCal still annually bitch about this and call for it to return at least in the north. That, of course, would be ridiculous because it certainly isn't going to come back in the south and you can't have two sets of rules for a statewide system. The three big NorCal sections clearly want no part of it, either.
As for Folsom, they've been eliminated in the D-1AA regional game pretty much as much as they've advanced from it.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Dec 01, 2025, 10:01 AMMost of what you'll read here from others on this is urban legend. There's no proof that the Folsom program had anything to do with this change. The facts of the matter is that when this was put up for a vote, all 10 CIF sections voted to eliminate the Open regional game. All 10, not just the SJS.
For years, the SS had been trying to figure out how to place their top teams in one playoff division. By switching to an in-year evaluation via calpreps/hsratings, they were finally able to do that. By virtue of that, they also eliminated any possibility (or need) of an Open regional in SoCal. SS D-I was obviously going to be a lot better than SS D-II, LA City Section teams can barely walk and chew gum at the same time, so that only leaves San Diego Section Open champ as a possible candidate. Would the SDS choose to eliminate its top team by having them play the SS D-I winner or take their chances against SS D-II. Easy answer, right? Given the fact that not a single SDS team has challenged either Mater Dei or St. John Bosco in non-league, it's clear where their stance is.
Several sections have formatted their playoffs to get as many quality teams (or just teams, in general) to state bowl playoffs as possible. The North Coast and Central Coast sections found a work around the rules to allow their respective #2 teams to advance. The Sac-Joaquin eliminated a rule that forced traditional D-I league champs into the D-I playoffs (this applies D-II champ St. Mary's this year), and others have far too many divisions for the size of their sections (i.e., NCS, LACS, SDS, Central Section).
So, no, it wasn't one section (and certainly not one team) that thought this was a good idea. Yes, the idea did originate from the SJS commissioner at the time, but all ideas have to start somewhere. In fact, the concept of bringing back state playoffs also originated from the same SJS dude.
Many in NorCal still annually bitch about this and call for it to return at least in the north. That, of course, would be ridiculous because it certainly isn't going to come back in the south and you can't have two sets of rules for a statewide system. The three big NorCal sections clearly want no part of it, either.
As for Folsom, they've been eliminated in the D-1AA regional game pretty much as much as they've advanced from it.
When this rule was first announced Cal-hi posted that the SJS commissioner told him it was for Folsom then he immediately took it down off the site.
What do you mean you can't have two sets of rules for statewide playoffs? Is Pittsburg still playing after losing? Does any section in the south do this?
Quote from: Cal 14 on Dec 01, 2025, 10:01 AMMost of what you'll read here from others on this is urban legend. There's no proof that the Folsom program had anything to do with this change. The facts of the matter is that when this was put up for a vote, all 10 CIF sections voted to eliminate the Open regional game. All 10, not just the SJS.
For years, the SS had been trying to figure out how to place their top teams in one playoff division. By switching to an in-year evaluation via calpreps/hsratings, they were finally able to do that. By virtue of that, they also eliminated any possibility (or need) of an Open regional in SoCal. SS D-I was obviously going to be a lot better than SS D-II, LA City Section teams can barely walk and chew gum at the same time, so that only leaves San Diego Section Open champ as a possible candidate. Would the SDS choose to eliminate its top team by having them play the SS D-I winner or take their chances against SS D-II. Easy answer, right? Given the fact that not a single SDS team has challenged either Mater Dei or St. John Bosco in non-league, it's clear where their stance is.
Several sections have formatted their playoffs to get as many quality teams (or just teams, in general) to state bowl playoffs as possible. The North Coast and Central Coast sections found a work around the rules to allow their respective #2 teams to advance. The Sac-Joaquin eliminated a rule that forced traditional D-I league champs into the D-I playoffs (this applies D-II champ St. Mary's this year), and others have far too many divisions for the size of their sections (i.e., NCS, LACS, SDS, Central Section).
So, no, it wasn't one section (and certainly not one team) that thought this was a good idea. Yes, the idea did originate from the SJS commissioner at the time, but all ideas have to start somewhere. In fact, the concept of bringing back state playoffs also originated from the same SJS dude.
Many in NorCal still annually bitch about this and call for it to return at least in the north. That, of course, would be ridiculous because it certainly isn't going to come back in the south and you can't have two sets of rules for a statewide system. The three big NorCal sections clearly want no part of it, either.
As for Folsom, they've been eliminated in the D-1AA regional game pretty much as much as they've advanced from it.
Dang why do you have to go and ruin a great legendary story with some truth. lol
Quote from: Ararar on Dec 01, 2025, 12:58 PMWhen this rule was first announced Cal-hi posted that the SJS commissioner told him it was for Folsom then he immediately took it down off the site.
What do you mean you can't have two sets of rules for statewide playoffs? Is Pittsburg still playing after losing? Does any section in the south do this?
Totally forgot you frequent the NorCal board. lol. I totally forgot about all that went down back when the decision was made. Every story has an origin and I am not 100% sure but pretty close that it started with Folsom and then the rest eventually started to agree for whatever their reasons were. Still. I really wish it had not gone away. So many great matchups that could have been had. Hopefully they revert back and bring it back in.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Dec 01, 2025, 05:31 PMTotally forgot you frequent the NorCal board. lol. I totally forgot about all that went down back when the decision was made. Every story has an origin and I am not 100% sure but pretty close that it started with Folsom and then the rest eventually started to agree for whatever their reasons were. Still. I really wish it had not gone away. So many great matchups that could have been had. Hopefully they revert back and bring it back in.
There was an Article posted Several times on the Old Nor Cal Boatd detailing it all.... It came from Folsom and The SJS commissioner "Who worked Closely Together to Come up with an Alternative Plan so the 2nd best team wouldn't be eliminated".... I believe that was the Quote.... Plus Folsoms Coaches, Administrators and Fans were quoted and it was Folsom fans calling the Section Commissioners office complaining.... Make no mistake, Folsom had their hands all over it.... 🤣
Quote from: Ararar on Dec 01, 2025, 12:58 PMWhen this rule was first announced Cal-hi posted that the SJS commissioner told him it was for Folsom then he immediately took it down off the site.
What do you mean you can't have two sets of rules for statewide playoffs? Is Pittsburg still playing after losing? Does any section in the south do this?
Totally agree, if Nor Cal's sections can operate differently then why can't Nor Cal have a Play in game without So Cal Having one?.... And why are San Diego and LA City Section Playoffs different than the Southern Section....
The Bottom line is the Sections in Nor Cal just don't want it.... It's one less team one of the sections won't get into a Regional game and that's really the answer.... 🤣
Quote from: Ararar on Dec 01, 2025, 12:58 PMWhen this rule was first announced Cal-hi posted that the SJS commissioner told him it was for Folsom then he immediately took it down off the site.
What do you mean you can't have two sets of rules for statewide playoffs? Is Pittsburg still playing after losing? Does any section in the south do this?
Documentation or it didn't happen.
Even if it did, that doesn't mean that the Folsom program itself had anything to do with it.
As for the rule that
North Coast Section has, that has no bearing on what the
CIF sets up
statewide.
Quote from: TheOC89 on Dec 01, 2025, 06:08 PMThere was an Article posted Several times on the Old Nor Cal Boatd detailing it all.... It came from Folsom and The SJS commissioner "Who worked Closely Together to Come up with an Alternative Plan so the 2nd best team wouldn't be eliminated".... I believe that was the Quote.... Plus Folsoms Coaches, Administrators and Fans were quoted and it was Folsom fans calling the Section Commissioners office complaining.... Make no mistake, Folsom had their hands all over it.... 🤣
Again, documentation or it didn't happen.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Dec 02, 2025, 08:54 PMDocumentation or it didn't happen.
Even if it did, that doesn't mean that the Folsom program itself had anything to do with it.
As for the rule that North Coast Section has, that has no bearing on what the CIF sets up statewide.
Document that it didn't happen
Everyone knows why it happened
For some reason you feel a need to protect Folsom
Without the Folsom rule they most likely would not have been in any SBG at all
Quote from: Cal 14 on Dec 02, 2025, 08:54 PMDocumentation or it didn't happen.
Even if it did, that doesn't mean that the Folsom program itself had anything to do with it.
As for the rule that North Coast Section has, that has no bearing on what the CIF sets up statewide.
You know it was there, you read it just like everyone else did....
Also that rule the NORTH COAST Section has is the Same rule Your CENTRAL COAST Section has.... So Again, multiple sections have different rules.... 🤣
So Again, if the CIF allows different sections to have different rules for how teams move on, there is no reason that Nor Cal and So Cal can't have different rules for how the Open Rep is chosen due to the variability of the sections within the Regions....
The reason it won't happen is because the Sections in Nor Cal don't want it to happen....
Quote from: TheOC89 on Dec 03, 2025, 07:46 AMYou know it was there, you read it just like everyone else did....
Also that rule the NORTH COAST Section has is the Same rule Your CENTRAL COAST Section has.... So Again, multiple sections have different rules.... 🤣
So Again, if the CIF allows different sections to have different rules for how teams move on, there is no reason that Nor Cal and So Cal can't have different rules for how the Open Rep is chosen due to the variability of the sections within the Regions....
The reason it won't happen is because the Sections in Nor Cal don't want it to happen....
Does this really have to be spelled out for you?
Each
section runs their own
sectional playoffs in the manner they choose.
The
CIF hosts the
state playoffs and sets the rules for the
state playoffs.
As in, the sectional and state playoffs
are not the same thing!
Quote from: Ararar on Dec 02, 2025, 10:38 PMDocument that it didn't happen
The burden of proof lies with those making the accusation.
Quote from: Ararar on Dec 02, 2025, 10:38 PMEveryone knows why it happened
Certain populations also "know" that the lunar landing didn't happen.
But I guess the rest of us, for some reason, have a need to protect NASA.
Quote from: Ararar on Dec 02, 2025, 10:38 PMFor some reason you feel a need to protect Folsom
I'm a scientist. I deal with facts, not hearsay. I don't really particularly care for the program. I hope Riordan clobbers them tomorrow night.
It's you guys that have a stick up your butts about them.
Quote from: Ararar on Dec 02, 2025, 10:38 PMWithout the Folsom rule they most likely would not have been in any SBG at all
Ignoring the fact that they had already participated in one before the regional games even existed.
Quote from: Cal 14 on Dec 04, 2025, 11:17 AMThe burden of proof lies with those making the accusation.
And you've claimed the rule has nothing to do with Folsom.Burdens in your court
I'm a scientist. I deal with facts, not hearsay. I don't really particularly care for the program. I hope Riordan clobbers them tomorrow night.
It's you guys that have a stick up your butts about them.
Really? Because you have no proof the rule wasn't made for Folsom but you run with that narrative
Ignoring the fact that they had already participated in one before the regional games even existed.
Ok 1 SBG.No single team has benefited more than Folsom since the rule went into effect hence "the Folsom rule "
So who we taking?
DLS or SM?
Folsom or Cathedral Catholic?
Central East or Pacifica?
Quote from: Ararar on Today at 03:49 PMSo who we taking?
DLS or SM?
Folsom or Cathedral Catholic?
Pittsburg or Pacifica?
DLS in the Upset
SDCC by 10, Folsoms defense is just awful....
PITT lost to Clovis East so I will take Pacifica.... 🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Today at 03:52 PMDLS in the Upset
SDCC by 10, Folsoms defense is just awful....
PITT lost to Clovis East so I will take Pacifica.... 🤣
Thanks I just remembered that and was going to edit.That number 12 kid on East was a hard kid to tackle
Quote from: Ararar on Today at 03:54 PMThanks I just remembered that and was going to edit.That number 12 kid on East was a hard kid to tackle
PITT played terrible.... I think they Underestimated CE because CE had that embarrassing loss to a Terrible Grant Team.... CE vs Pacifica should be a Shootout though!....
OPEN DIVISION
De La Salle (12-0) vs. Santa Margarita (10-3) on Saturday, Dec. 13 at 8:00 p.m. at Saddleback College
* TV: Spectrum News and TBD
DIVISION 1–AA
Folsom (13-1) vs. Cathedral Catholic (11-2) on Friday, Dec. 12 at 8:00 p.m. at Saddleback College
* TV: Spectrum News and Spectrum SportsNet
DIVISION 1–A
Central East, Fresno (13-1) vs. Pacifica, Oxnard (15-0) on Saturday, Dec. 13 at 3:30 p.m. at Saddleback College
* TV: Spectrum News and TBD
DIVISION 2–AA
St. Mary's, Stockton (12-2) vs. Bakersfield Christian (13-0) on Fri., Dec. 12 at 4:00 p.m. at Saddleback Coll.
* TV: Spectrum SportsNet
DIVISION 2–A
Sonora (14-0) vs. Rio Hondo Prep (15-0) on Saturday, Dec. 13 at 11:30 a.m. at Saddleback College
* TV: Spectrum News and Spectrum SportsNet
DIVISION 3–AA
St. Ignatius, S.F. (8-6) vs. Ventura (13-2) on Friday, Dec. 12 at 8:00 p.m. at FUHSDS
DIVISION 3–A
McClymonds, Oakland (11-2) vs. RF Kennedy, Delano (12-3) on Saturday, Dec. 13 at 7:00 p.m. at FUHSDS
DIVISION 4–AA
Sutter (13-1) vs. Barstow (11-3) on Friday, Dec. 12 at 8:00 p.m. at BPHS
DIVISION 4–A
El Cerrito (12-2) vs. Beckman, Irvine (12-3) on Saturday, Dec. 13 at 7:00 p.m. at BPHS
DIVISION 5–AA
Bishop O'Dowd, Oakland (10-4) vs. Christian, El Cajon (8-7) on Friday, Dec. 12 at 4:00 p.m. at BPHS
DIVISION 5–A
Calaveras, San Andreas (12-2) vs. Bishop Union (12-3) on Saturday, Dec. 13 at 3:00 p.m. at FUHSDS
DIVISION 6–AA
Lincoln, San Jose (11-3) vs. Valley Center (8-6) on Friday, Dec. 12 at 4:00 p.m. at FUHSDS
DIVISION 6–A
Winters (13-1) vs. Morse, San Diego (10-4) on Saturday, Dec. 13 at 3:00 p.m.at BPHS
DIVISION 7–AA
Redding Christian, Palo Cedro (14-0) vs. Woodbridge, Irvine (7-8) on Sat., Dec. 13 at 11:00 a.m. at FUHSDS
DIVISION 7–A
Balboa, San Francisco (11-2) vs. South El Monte (11-4) on Saturday, Dec. 13 at 11:00 a.m. at BPHS