Early Preseason No Drama Top 10 Poll based on my early observations and travels. Will most likely change as I gather more information.
1-STA, FL (could be one of their best teams ever)
Might have their most talented Senior Class in school history.
I know the Trinity League clowns don't want to hear that, but it's true.
2-St John Bosco, CA
3-St Francis, MD
4-Mater Dei, CA
5-Bishop Gorman, NV
6-Brentwood Academy, TN
7-DeSoto, TX
8-North Shore, TX
9-Carrollton, GA
10- Basha, AZ
10- Buford, GA
Louisiana has 3 possible teams that could play their way into a Top 10 ranking depending what happens nationally.
John Curtis (NOLA)
Ruston
Catholic (Baton Rouge)
I'm not as high on Edna this year as I was the last two years. They just have to replace way too much. I mean they're still going to look like Edna Karr, but they just won't be the same.
Ruston Is absolutely loaded with skill players.
If their young OL/DL gel they could be a monster.
A legit chance Ruston has 2 5" prospects this year.
Everyone knows about 5* TE/WR Ahmad Hudson (LSU commit)
But they may not know about 4* RB Dalen Powell in the 2028 class. He's in that early 5* range.
Currently the #2 rated RB in the nation In that class.
https://247sports.com/season/2028-football/recruitrankings/?InstitutionGroup=HighSchool&Position=RB
Ruston 4* LB Shemar Evans and 4* DB Jayden Anding are also players to watch this year for Ruston..
https://247sports.com/player/shamar-evans-46162197/
https://247sports.com/player/jayden-anding-46152579/
Anyways, if anyone has any useful information feel free to post it here.
Quote from: Redzone on May 14, 2026, 05:51 AMLouisiana has 3 possible teams that could play their way into a Top 10 ranking depending what happens nationally.
LOL!!!
This is such a fantastic statement. Similarly, the entirety of Arizona's 6A conference could play their way into a top 10 ranking because if anyone ran the table and won the Open that would by itself be enough for a top ten national finish. Is that likely to happen for any of them? No, but it **COULD** happen!
@Nolebull813 I'm increasingly warming up to your theory that dude is a rage-baiting troll that says this stupid crap just for the attention of it all.
Quote from: Wooderson on May 14, 2026, 08:31 AMLOL!!!
This is such a fantastic statement. Similarly, the entirety of Arizona's 6A conference could play their way into a top 10 ranking because if anyone ran the table and won the Open that would by itself be enough for a top ten national finish. Is that likely to happen for any of them? No, but it **COULD** happen!
@Nolebull813 I'm increasingly warming up to your theory that dude is a rage-baiting troll that says this stupid crap just for the attention of it all.
Cool story. But, nah.
Basha is the only realistic shot Arizona has of a Top 10 team this year.
Didn't mean to ruin your I love Arizona high school football parade.
Quote from: Redzone on May 14, 2026, 05:51 AMEarly Preseason No Drama Top 10 Poll based on my early observations and travels. Will most likely change as I gather more information.
1-STA, FL (could be one of their best teams ever)
Might have their most talented Senior Class in school history.
I know the Trinity League clowns don't want to hear that, but it's true.
2-St John Bosco, CA
3-St Francis, MD
4-Mater Dei, CA
5-Bishop Gorman, NV
6-Brentwood Academy, TN
7-DeSoto, TX
8-North Shore, TX
9-Carrollton, GA
10- Basha, AZ
10- Buford, GA
Louisiana has 3 possible teams that could play their way into a Top 10 ranking depending what happens nationally.
John Curtis (NOLA)
Ruston
Catholic (Baton Rouge)
I'm not as high on Edna this year as I was the last two years. They just have to replace way too much. I mean they're still going to look like Edna Karr, but they just won't be the same.
Your Top 10 has 11 teams listed. In your travels and deep dive into all these teams you couldn't give Basha or Buford one of the "just missed"? :D :D
Quote from: Cossacks on May 14, 2026, 09:10 AMYour Top 10 has 11 teams listed. In your travels and deep dive into all these teams you couldn't give Basha or Buford one of the "just missed"? :D :D
I have Basha tied with Buford just for Woody. 👍😁
Basha has quite a bit of talent (most talented senior class ever most likely) but they'll fuck it up and end up somewhere in the Top 25, maybe Top 30.
Buford is a known rock!
Quote from: Wooderson on May 14, 2026, 08:31 AMLOL!!!
This is such a fantastic statement. Similarly, the entirety of Arizona's 6A conference could play their way into a top 10 ranking because if anyone ran the table and won the Open that would by itself be enough for a top ten national finish. Is that likely to happen for any of them? No, but it **COULD** happen!
@Nolebull813 I'm increasingly warming up to your theory that dude is a rage-baiting troll that says this stupid crap just for the attention of it all.
0 Louisiana teams have a realistic shot at being in the top 10.
Centennial
Santa Margarita
Duncanville
Allen
American Heritage
All whoop those Louisiana teams asses.
Quote from: Wooderson on May 14, 2026, 08:31 AMLOL!!!
This is such a fantastic statement. Similarly, the entirety of Arizona's 6A conference could play their way into a top 10 ranking because if anyone ran the table and won the Open that would by itself be enough for a top ten national finish. Is that likely to happen for any of them? No, but it **COULD** happen!
@Nolebull813 I'm increasingly warming up to your theory that dude is a rage-baiting troll that says this stupid crap just for the attention of it all.
Yeah he is. It's been this way over 15 years minimum just interacting on old message boards. Nothing has changed. Ask Steeler. I remember from the old Texas board from long ago. He's the exact same troll now as he was then
Arizona only has 3 somewhat meaningful OOS games that I see so far.
Liberty plays Corner Canyon, UT again.
Corner Canyon put a running clock on Liberty last year 46-14. Probably be a dud game this year too
Basha plays Orange Lutheran, CA.> might be ok if both teams aren't on "recruiting probation" by then.
Chandler plays Cathedral Catholic (San Diego) again> whatever!
Hamilton plays Arbor View, NV.> That's a dud or it should be a dud.
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 14, 2026, 09:29 AM0 Louisiana teams have a realistic shot at being in the top 10.
Centennial
Santa Margarita
Duncanville
Allen
American Heritage
All whoop those Louisiana teams asses.
Dude thinks crusty Rusty could be national top 10 when they got the tar beat out of them by an old Texas 3A new 4A team and barely beat the 30th ranked TX team at home. Needed a miracle catch to win at the end.
Catholic got thrown around by a MAIS Mississippi team. They will get butt dented by Carrollton. Same with Curtis and North Shore.
And I wouldn't have had Karr top 10 last year. They needed an overtime miracle against a not top 90 team who was without their QB and WR and no other win was national top 100.
They didn't do anything to earn the ranking.
He said Arbor View should be a dud game. But Arbor View would have been ranked 9th in Lousiana.
Sounds like playing the 9th ranked Lousiana is an embarrassing dud.
I agree
Quote from: Nolebull813 on May 14, 2026, 10:28 AMHe said Arbor View should be a dud game. But Arbor View would have been ranked 9th in Lousiana.
Sounds like playing the 9th ranked Lousiana is an embarrassing dud.
I agree
Just how much MaxPreps can you get up your anal canal?
Stop fucking with that gay dude in Redzone.
Quote from: Wooderson on May 14, 2026, 08:31 AMLOL!!!
This is such a fantastic statement. Similarly, the entirety of Arizona's 6A conference could play their way into a top 10 ranking because if anyone ran the table and won the Open that would by itself be enough for a top ten national finish. Is that likely to happen for any of them? No, but it **COULD** happen!
@Nolebull813 I'm increasingly warming up to your theory that dude is a rage-baiting troll that says this stupid crap just for the attention of it all.
The top Louisiana team has played only 1 national top 100 team last year and needed overtime against them when they didn't have their QB and WR.
No other team was top 100.
And they got some magic ranking somehow because of it.
The top Arizona team would have to play at least 3 national top 100 teams to get the same ranking.
Louisana plays all garbage and whoever is the tallest midget somehow gets ranked high. Doesn't make sense. I thought you had to prove it
Quote from: Redzone on May 14, 2026, 10:32 AMJust how much MaxPreps can you get up your anal canal?
Stop fucking with that gay dude in Redzone.
Even if their rankings aren't spot on (they aren't) they can't be light years off. It's a pretty general ranking.
It's obvious Arbor View would be in the Lousinana top 10.
It doesn't take much to be in the LA top 10. Escambia finished 93rd in FL and they beat the living crap out of State top 10 Archbishop Rummel. It's not a big deal
Quote from: Nolebull813 on May 14, 2026, 10:28 AMHe said Arbor View should be a dud game. But Arbor View would have been ranked 9th in Lousiana.
Sounds like playing the 9th ranked Lousiana is an embarrassing dud.
I agree
He didn't even mention Peoria Centennial-Servite, a game between one team that's played on the final week of the season three straight years and a Trinity League team with a winning record. Complete amateur hour.
Quote from: Wooderson on May 14, 2026, 11:02 AMHe didn't even mention Peoria Centennial-Servite, a game between one team that's played on the final week of the season three straight years and a Trinity League team with a winning record. Complete amateur hour.
All these teams would all be top 10 in Lousiana and he would be humping their leg all offseason. He's a biased hack who is incapable of objective analysis
Quote from: Redzone on May 14, 2026, 08:59 AMCool story. But, nah.
Basha is the only realistic shot Arizona has of a Top 10 team this year.
Didn't mean to ruin your I love Arizona high school football parade.
Basha, Chandler, and Hamilton played one another four times and all got at least one win. All are more talented than any team in Louisiana and it wouldn't be shocking if any of those ran the table to a 6A title.
Quote from: Wooderson on May 14, 2026, 11:02 AMHe didn't even mention Peoria Centennial-Servite, a game between one team that's played on the final week of the season three straight years and a Trinity League team with a winning record. Complete amateur hour.
A 9-5 Arizona team vs 6-5 CA team........ I heard they're already lined up to buy tickets for that one. 🤠🏈🤠
Quote from: Redzone on May 14, 2026, 11:50 AMA 9-5 Arizona team vs 6-5 CA team........ I heard they're already lined up to buy tickets for that one. 🤠🏈🤠
Five national top 100 finishes since 2021 between them and combined 15 seniors/juniors with D1 offers.
Quote from: Wooderson on May 14, 2026, 12:03 PMFive national top 100 finishes since 2021 between them and combined 15 seniors/juniors with D1 offers.
I guarantee you without looking that ever single team of the 10 combined losses would all the in the Louisiana top 10-15. Guaranteed without even checking.
This piece of garbage will shit on a team for losing to 5 national top 100 teams with some being in the top 10, but hype up some 1-2 loss Lousiana garbage no one has heard of ranked outside the top 500.
Troll
Quote from: Wooderson on May 14, 2026, 12:03 PMFive national top 100 finishes since 2021 between them and combined 15 seniors/juniors with D1 offers.
MaxPreps, right?
Massey 2025 Ranking
Peoria Centennial, AZ #450
Servite, CA #183
Will be about the same this year.
Life looks totally different when you're not wearing MaxPreps sunglasses. 🤠🏈🤠
Oh man!
Quote from: Redzone on May 14, 2026, 01:10 PMMaxPreps, right?
Massey 2025 Ranking
Peoria Centennial, AZ #450
Servite, CA #183
Will be about the same this year.
Life looks totally different when you're not wearing MaxPreps sunglasses. 🤠🏈🤠
Oh man!
Who was the ranking that named Bixby national champion?
Neither team was top 100 this past season and as such isn't relevant to my original statement.
Quote from: Wooderson on May 14, 2026, 01:41 PMWho was the ranking that named Bixby national champion?
Neither team was top 100 this past season and as such isn't relevant to my original statement.
I thought Servite was a Top 100 team nationally per MaxPreps.....#105
Sue me!
My point still remains.
Quote from: Redzone on May 14, 2026, 02:55 PMI thought Servite was a Top 100 team nationally per MaxPreps.....#105
Sue me!
My point still remains.
That you suddenly think the ranking that named Bixby national champion is the gold standard of high school rankings?
Quote from: Nolebull813 on May 14, 2026, 10:35 AMEven if their rankings aren't spot on (they aren't) they can't be light years off. It's a pretty general ranking.
It's obvious Arbor View would be in the Lousinana top 10.
It doesn't take much to be in the LA top 10. Escambia finished 93rd in FL and they beat the living crap out of State top 10 Archbishop Rummel. It's not a big deal
Teams mentioned otherwise in this thread that have 4+ seniors holding D1 offers (4 is significant because that's how many seniors with offers Ruston has; the other schools in RZ's Louisiana Holy Trinity have less):
Hamilton (https://247sports.com/season/2027-football/recruits/?&PlayerSport.PlayerInstitution.Institution.Key=6687&RecruitInterests.Offered=True)
Chandler (https://247sports.com/season/2027-football/recruits/?&PlayerSport.PlayerInstitution.Institution.Key=6686&RecruitInterests.Offered=True)
Peoria Centennial (https://247sports.com/season/2027-football/recruits/?&PlayerSport.PlayerInstitution.Institution.Key=6776&RecruitInterests.Offered=True)
Arbor View (https://247sports.com/season/2027-football/recruits/?&PlayerSport.PlayerInstitution.Institution.Key=15324&RecruitInterests.Offered=True)
Servite (https://247sports.com/season/2027-football/recruits/?&PlayerSport.PlayerInstitution.Institution.Key=743&RecruitInterests.Offered=True)
Using that as a standard I propose that all be designated as possible national top ten teams.
I'm just wondering how you all have managed to evaluate the 2026 teams. What are the 2026 rankings of 2026 teams based on?
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on May 14, 2026, 05:37 PMI'm just wondering how you all have managed to evaluate the 2026 teams. What are the 2026 rankings of 2026 teams based on?
I don't know, why don't you ask the Dude that claims to be ranking the teams through his "Observations and Travels" how he has figured all this out.... 🤣
Quote from: Nolebull813 on May 14, 2026, 10:28 AMHe said Arbor View should be a dud game. But Arbor View would have been ranked 9th in Lousiana.
Sounds like playing the 9th ranked Lousiana is an embarrassing dud.
I agree
Lowly Millard South from lowly Nebraska waxed Arbor View last year 49-7. So, Nebraska's best would have been #1 or 2 in Lousyana for sure.
Quote from: DreadnaughtAlum on May 14, 2026, 05:37 PMI'm just wondering how you all have managed to evaluate the 2026 teams. What are the 2026 rankings of 2026 teams based on?
Speaking for myself> I have a gift!
There are over 20 way-too-early 2026 college football Preseason Polls out already..
What's so different about high school football these days?
I'll be making some changes to my Top 10 as the season approaches, but in order to make changes you have to start with a rough draft.
I always find it humorous when people tell me what another team from another state would be ranked in Louisiana. That's great stuff!
Check this out.
2024 Season
Ruston, La thumped Longview, TX 21-10.
Shut them down. Solid win!
Ok,
#11 Longview lost to #7 SLC in OT 20-17 in the 6AD2 semi-finals.
#6:Vandergrift beat #7 Southlake Carroll 24-17 in the 6AD2 Champ game.
That puts Ruston Top 10 Texas.
But wait, Central (Baton Rouge) put a legit running clock on Ruston in the 5A Champ game 42-0. That puts Central Top 10 in Texas.
But wait, Catholic (Baton Rouge) decked Central (Baton Rouge) 36-14.
That puts Catholic Top 10 in Texas.
But Wait, Edna Karr beat Catholic In the D1 Select champ game. That puts Edna Karr in the Top 10 in Texas.
That puts 4 Louisiana teams in the Top 10 in Texas in 2024. No state has ever come close to accomplishing that feat.
Someone stop the madness! 👍🤠🏈🤠
I really wish I had more time to play silly high school football games with you people, but most of my free time on the internet Is devoted to important stuff> like gathering important information on high school football teams, players, schedules, college recruiting and that kind of stuff.
Quote from: Wooderson on May 14, 2026, 04:02 PMTeams mentioned otherwise in this thread that have 4+ seniors holding D1 offers (4 is significant because that's how many seniors with offers Ruston has; the other schools in RZ's Louisiana Holy Trinity have less):
Hamilton (https://247sports.com/season/2027-football/recruits/?&PlayerSport.PlayerInstitution.Institution.Key=6687&RecruitInterests.Offered=True)
Chandler (https://247sports.com/season/2027-football/recruits/?&PlayerSport.PlayerInstitution.Institution.Key=6686&RecruitInterests.Offered=True)
Peoria Centennial (https://247sports.com/season/2027-football/recruits/?&PlayerSport.PlayerInstitution.Institution.Key=6776&RecruitInterests.Offered=True)
Arbor View (https://247sports.com/season/2027-football/recruits/?&PlayerSport.PlayerInstitution.Institution.Key=15324&RecruitInterests.Offered=True)
Servite (https://247sports.com/season/2027-football/recruits/?&PlayerSport.PlayerInstitution.Institution.Key=743&RecruitInterests.Offered=True)
Using that as a standard I propose that all be designated as possible national top ten teams.
Maybe Arbor View, NV can play their way into the National Top 10.
That said
Ruston probably has close to 15 players with college offers NOT all D1s, Woody.
Ruston has a legit 8 prospects with SEC offers though they could possibly have 2 5* prospects.
The only thing keeping me from having Ruston in my Top 10 this year is I am uncertain of their OL/DL at this point.
Ruston did get their defensive coordinator back this year from LSU. He may be the best DC in the nation.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 06:20 AMRuston probably has close to 15 players with college offers NOT all D1s, Woody.
You say that like it's some grand accomplishment; even the worst 6A programs in Arizona have at least three guys with offers from NAIA or D2 programs that aren't attaching any meaningful scholarship money to said offer and are essentially using the football program to bolster enrollment. The better offers are giving you an in on better financial aid offerings but in many cases that offer is not much more than an invitation to go to that school, pay 75% of tuition, and be able to say you played college football the rest of your life. When you're a private college with an enrollment of 3000 students 100 guys paying 50-75% of a $15000/year tuition starts to add up.
Valley Vista High went 1-9 in our 6A conference (https://www.maxpreps.com/az/surprise/valley-vista-monsoon/football/schedule/) last year. Their quarterback got non-D1 offers (https://x.com/damirtilicic/status/2008964637740662836?s=20). Ditto for at least one of their lineman (https://x.com/Ethan_Penner55/status/2026137314486038632?s=20), their six-foot-nine receiver (https://x.com/ahmehirRichards/status/2000313632689901760?s=20), this guy (https://x.com/ariedouble0/status/1996035101256548751?s=20), and this guy even got a D1 offer (https://x.com/zbrown_51/status/2019575988649357732?s=20); they even have a senior-to-be with multiple (https://x.com/zbrown_51/status/2019575988649357732?s=20) D1 offers (https://x.com/zbrown_51/status/2031559454286819649?s=20). Guess they just had terrible coaching or "no heart" 🙄
Quote from: Wooderson on May 15, 2026, 07:48 AMYou say that like it's some grand accomplishment; even the worst 6A programs in Arizona have at least three guys with offers from NAIA or D2 programs that aren't attaching any meaningful scholarship money to said offer and are essentially using the football program to bolster enrollment. The better offers are giving you an in on better financial aid offerings but in many cases that offer is not much more than an invitation to go to that school, pay 75% of tuition, and be able to say you played college football the rest of your life. When you're a private college with an enrollment of 3000 students 100 guys paying 50-75% of a $15000/year tuition starts to add up.
Valley Vista High went 1-9 in our 6A conference (https://www.maxpreps.com/az/surprise/valley-vista-monsoon/football/schedule/) last year. Their quarterback got non-D1 offers (https://x.com/damirtilicic/status/2008964637740662836?s=20). Ditto for at least one of their lineman (https://x.com/Ethan_Penner55/status/2026137314486038632?s=20), their six-foot-nine receiver (https://x.com/ahmehirRichards/status/2000313632689901760?s=20), this guy (https://x.com/ariedouble0/status/1996035101256548751?s=20), and this guy even got a D1 offer (https://x.com/zbrown_51/status/2019575988649357732?s=20); they even have a senior-to-be with multiple (https://x.com/zbrown_51/status/2019575988649357732?s=20) D1 offers (https://x.com/zbrown_51/status/2031559454286819649?s=20). Guess they just had terrible coaching or "no heart" 🙄
Sorry, dude.
You're going to have to break all that down so I can understand what in the world you're talking about.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 07:59 AMSorry, dude.
You're going to have to break all that down so I can understand what in the world you're talking about.
If a hot-garbage program like Valley Vista can get at least four guys non-D1 offers it says that not much stock can be placed in those offers.
Quote from: Wooderson on May 15, 2026, 08:02 AMIf a hot-garbage program like Valley Vista can get at least four guys non-D1 offers it says that not much stock can be placed in those offers.
Nah, you lost me again.
Maybe Louisiana is just built differently.
This past year Edna Karr signed 25 kids.
One of them was WR Floyd Jones in video below who signed with FCS Southern University in Baton Rouge.
Hell of a catch vs American Heritage Plantation, FL. 👇
The average money football prospects get on scholarship at the FCS level is 21,000 per year. They can get full rides or partial rides, but that's the average. FCS schools can have 63 scholarship players on the roster, but I think that went up to 105 last year. I need to research that a little more probably.
My point?
The video is my point.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 08:20 AMNah, you lost me again.
Maybe Louisiana is just built differently.
This past year Edna Karr signed 25 kids.
One of them was WR Floyd Jones in video below who signed with FCS Southern University in Baton Rouge.
Hell of a catch vs American Heritage Plantation, FL. 👇
The average money football prospects get on scholarship at the FCS level is 21,000 per year. They can get full rides or partial rides, but that's the average. FCS schools can have 63 scholarship players on the roster, but I think that went up to 105 last year. I need to research that a little more probably.
My point?
The video is my point.
FCS schools are D1 schools (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Football_Championship_Subdivision) you imbecile.
Quote from: Wooderson on May 15, 2026, 08:29 AMFCS schools are D1 schools (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Football_Championship_Subdivision) you imbecile.
So you count FCS players when talking about how talented these Arizona teams are? I guess it makes sense In a weird way..
I never have and most haven't.
Personally, when I say a team has 7 or 8 D1s they are of the FBS brand. The rest are just quality gravy!.
I love FCS football, but nobody includes those players when talking high school football. No one!
Louisiana has 6 FCS football programs. If I mentioned every kid that picked up a FCS offer I would be laughed off this forum. Louisiana produces a shit load of FCS players.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 08:52 AMSo you count FCS players when talking about how talented these Arizona teams are? I guess it makes sense In a weird way..
I never have and most haven't.
Personally, when I say a team has 7 or 8 D1s they are of the FBS brand. The rest are just quality gravy!.
I love FCS football, but nobody includes those players when talking high school football. No one!
Louisiana has 6 FCS football programs. If I mentioned every kid that picked up a FCS offer I would be laughed off this forum. Louisiana produces a shit load of FCS players.
Arizona has 1 FCS football program in the state.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 05:46 AMI always find it humorous when people tell me what another team from another state would be ranked in Louisiana. That's great stuff!
Check this out.
2024 Season
Ruston, La thumped Longview, TX 21-10.
Shut them down. Solid win!
Ok,
#11 Longview lost to #7 SLC in OT 20-17 in the 6AD2 semi-finals.
#6:Vandergrift beat #7 Southlake Carroll 24-17 in the 6AD2 Champ game.
That puts Ruston Top 10 Texas.
But wait, Central (Baton Rouge) put a legit running clock on Ruston in the 5A Champ game 42-0. That puts Central Top 10 in Texas.
But wait, Catholic (Baton Rouge) decked Central (Baton Rouge) 36-14.
That puts Catholic Top 10 in Texas.
But Wait, Edna Karr beat Catholic In the D1 Select champ game. That puts Edna Karr in the Top 10 in Texas.
That puts 4 Louisiana teams in the Top 10 in Texas in 2024. No state has ever come close to accomplishing that feat.
Someone stop the madness! 👍🤠🏈🤠
The same Longview that lost that year to South Oak Cliff.
South Oak Cliff 45 Longview 44
Randle 38 South Oak Cliff 35
North shore 38 South Oak Cliff 0
Duncanville 34 South Oak Cliff 12
Westlake 35 Northshore 10
NorthShore 24 Lake Travis 17
North Crowley 50 Westlake 21
Longview in no way shape or form was a top 10 team in Texas.
Longview was in the weaker division.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 08:52 AMSo you count FCS players when talking about how talented these Arizona teams are? I guess it makes sense In a weird way..
I never have and most haven't.
Personally, when I say a team has 7 or 8 D1s they are of the FBS brand. The rest are just quality gravy!.
I love FCS football, but nobody includes those players when talking high school football. No one!
Louisiana has 6 FCS football programs. If I mentioned every kid that picked up a FCS offer I would be laughed off this forum. Louisiana produces a shit load of FCS players.
At least one source says you don't know what you're talking about (https://www.ncsasports.org/football/division-1-colleges).
Quote from: Wooderson on May 15, 2026, 10:04 AMAt least one source says you don't know what you're talking about (https://www.ncsasports.org/football/division-1-colleges).
Educate me....
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 15, 2026, 09:42 AMThe same Longview that lost that year to South Oak Cliff.
South Oak Cliff 45 Longview 44
Randle 38 South Oak Cliff 35
North shore 38 South Oak Cliff 0
Duncanville 34 South Oak Cliff 12
Westlake 35 Northshore 10
NorthShore 24 Lake Travis 17
North Crowley 50 Westlake 21
Longview in no way shape or form was a top 10 team in Texas.
Longview was in the weaker division.
And Longview beat DeSoto 50-14, so what?
What does that have to do with the Final Poll?
https://highschoolfootballamerica.com/north-crowley-wraps-up-no-1-ranking-in-2024-texas-top-25-high-school-football-rankings/
You just don't want to give Louisiana credit.
I get it, but your logic stinks.
Quote from: Redzone on May 14, 2026, 05:51 AMEarly Preseason No Drama Top 10 Poll based on my early observations and travels. Will most likely change as I gather more information.
1-STA, FL (could be one of their best teams ever)
Might have their most talented Senior Class in school history.
I know the Trinity League clowns don't want to hear that, but it's true.
5* STA OT Mark Matthews is committing today.
The #1 OT prospect in the nation.
Going to be a good day for someone. LSU will have a hat on the table, but it's only hat for LSU today.
I believe Texas A&M is going to win out.
https://247sports.com/player/mark-matthews-46145576/
Just passing it along.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 10:24 AMAnd Longview beat DeSoto 50-14, so what?
What does that have to do with the Final Poll?
https://highschoolfootballamerica.com/north-crowley-wraps-up-no-1-ranking-in-2024-texas-top-25-high-school-football-rankings/
You just don't want to give Louisiana credit.
I get it, but your logic stinks.
Who the hell was Desoto?
Who did Desoto beat?
Nobody
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 10:24 AMAnd Longview beat DeSoto 50-14, so what?
What does that have to do with the Final Poll?
https://highschoolfootballamerica.com/north-crowley-wraps-up-no-1-ranking-in-2024-texas-top-25-high-school-football-rankings/
You just don't want to give Louisiana credit.
I get it, but your logic stinks.
Randle who went undefeated and beat South Oak Cliff isn't even ranked lol.
Longview even in that place isn't ranked top 10.
Imagine that Longview team playing Centennial. It would be laughable.
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 15, 2026, 02:14 PMWho the hell was Desoto?
Who did Desoto beat?
Nobody
#1 TX, #3 Nationally> North Crowley 57 DeSoto 51
Longview 50 DeSoto 14
You should really take your clown show on the road.
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 15, 2026, 02:18 PMRandle who went undefeated and beat South Oak Cliff isn't even ranked lol.
Longview even in that place isn't ranked top 10.
Imagine that Longview team playing Centennial. It would be laughable.
Randle #22.
Look with your eyes open this time.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 03:29 PMRandle #22.
Look with your eyes open this time.
So Randle beats south oak cliff and finishes undefeated and lower ranked. This is the ranking you are using.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 03:27 PM#1 TX, #3 Nationally> North Crowley 57 DeSoto 51
Longview 50 DeSoto 14
You should really take your clown show on the road.
Duncanville 42 Desoto 20
Longview 31 Lancaster(5-7) 24 overtime
DeSoto's claim to fame is losing by a score to North Crowley that year but not mentioning they got destroyed by Duncanville lol.
Desoto had 0 significant wins.
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 15, 2026, 03:38 PMSo Randle beats south oak cliff and finishes undefeated and lower ranked. This is the ranking you are using.
When South Oak Cliff was playing North Shore, Duncanville and Longview > Randall was playing (2-9), (4-7) and (5-6) teams.
Randall's SOS was pathetic.
Spin it how you want it.
Makes no difference to me.
My point's already been proven.
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 15, 2026, 03:41 PMDuncanville 42 Desoto 20
Longview 31 Lancaster(5-7) 24 overtime
DeSoto's claim to fame is losing by a score to North Crowley that year but not mentioning they got destroyed by Duncanville lol.
Desoto had 0 significant wins.
Ruston, La 21 Longview 10
Longview 50 DeSoto 14
Yet MaxPreps had DeSoto #8 in Texas.
Oh wait, you don't like MaxPreps now.
You will like MaxPreps again next week for "something" if they support your tremendously weak agenda.
https://www.maxpreps.com/tx/desoto/desoto-fighting-eagles/football/24-25/schedule/
Bottom line if you don't want to give Louisiana any credit for beating a very good Longview team in 2024 that's your prerogative.
Hate on, dude!
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 10:49 AM5* STA OT Mark Matthews is committing today.
The #1 OT prospect in the nation.
Going to be a good day for someone. LSU will have a hat on the table, but it's only hat for LSU today.
I believe Texas A&M is going to win out.
https://247sports.com/player/mark-matthews-46145576/
Just passing it along.
Texas A$M
I'm really good at this!
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 10:16 PMRuston, La 21 Longview 10
Longview 50 DeSoto 14
Yet MaxPreps had DeSoto #8 in Texas.
Oh wait, you don't like MaxPreps now.
You will like MaxPreps again next week for "something" if they support your tremendously weak agenda.
https://www.maxpreps.com/tx/desoto/desoto-fighting-eagles/football/24-25/schedule/
Bottom line if you don't want to give Louisiana any credit for beating a very good Longview team in 2024 that's your prerogative.
Hate on, dude!
When the hell have i ever said Maxpreps is the holy grail of anything?
Who did DeSoto beat in 2024 to be ranked 8th? I'll wait.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 10:04 PMWhen South Oak Cliff was playing North Shore, Duncanville and Longview > Randall was playing (2-9), (4-7) and (5-6) teams.
Randall's SOS was pathetic.
Spin it how you want it.
Makes no difference to me.
My point's already been proven.
Who cares about SOS. If you don't win any of the games what does SOS matter?
Randle beat SOC, ended up undefeated and finished lower in the ranking you used. Yet, here you are defending it because it helps Louisiana lol.
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 16, 2026, 02:24 AMWho cares about SOS. If you don't win any of the games what does SOS matter?
Randle beat SOC, ended up undefeated and finished lower in the ranking you used. Yet here you are defending it because it helps Louisiana lol.
Ruston, La 21 Longview 10
South Oak Cliff 46 Longview 45
Randall 38 South Oak Cliff 35
Fuck Randall!
Longview, Randall, and South Oak Cliff are the same exact teams only Randall played a pathetic schedule.
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 04:36 AMRuston, La 21 Longview 10
South Oak Cliff 46 Longview 45
Randall 38 South Oak Cliff 35
Fuck Randall!
Longview, Randall, and South Oak Cliff are the same exact teams only Randall played a pathetic schedule.
Longview lost.
Longview had a joke of a path to the semis.
Longview had no signature wins.
Longview's playoff path
5-6 Naaman Forest
5-7 Lancaster
7-6 Klein Collins
11-3 Desoto who didn't beat anyone themselves
This is what we're saying is a great team cause they made the semis. A ton of teams make the semis with that crappy schedule.
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 16, 2026, 04:49 AMLongview lost.
Longview had a joke of a path to the semis.
Longview had no signature wins.
Longview's playoff path
5-6 Naaman Forest
5-7 Lancaster
7-6 Klein Collins
11-3 Desoto who didn't beat anyone themselves
This is what we're saying is a great team cause they made the semis. A ton of teams make the semis with that crappy schedule.
Ruston, La 21 #11 Longview 10
Anyways another fascinating story, dude.
You left off the part about #11 Longview losing to #7 Southlake Carroll 20-17 in overtime In the 6A D2 semifinals. I watched the game it was a classic.
#7 Southlake Carroll finished the year 15-1 losing in the Champ game 24-17.to #6 Vandergrift.
Why don't you just shit on all these Texas teams like you have in the past.
We all know you hate Texas and Louisiana with a passion.
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 05:38 AMRuston, La 21 #11 Longview 10
Anyways another fascinating story, dude.
You left off the part about #11 Longview losing to #7 Southlake Carroll 20-17 in overtime In the 6A D2 semifinals. I watched the game it was a classic.
#7 Southlake Carroll finished the year 15-1 losing in the Champ game 24-17.to #6 Vandergrift.
Why don't you just shit on all these Texas teams like you have in the past.
We all know you hate Texas and Louisiana with a passion.
Longview beat Lancaster in overtime. A 5-7 team.
The best teams were in division 1. Division 2 was just that, a 2nd tier tournament.
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 16, 2026, 06:06 AMLongview beat Lancaster in overtime. A 5-7 team.
The best teams were in division 1. Division 2 was just that, a 2nd tier tournament.
Ruston, La 21 #11 Longview 10
#1 TX, #3 Nationally North Crowley 29 Lancaster 21
#11 TX Longview 35 Lancaster 28 OT
Just stop with the nonsense
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 09:13 AMRuston, La 21 #11 Longview 10
#1 TX, #3 Nationally North Crowley 29 Lancaster 21
#11 TX Longview 35 Lancaster 28 OT
Just stop with the nonsense
5-7 Lancaster
Longview was South Oak Cliff. A team battered by Duncanville and Northshore.
https://youtu.be/5QSjZVATjeY?si=zREO1-Ies-RTDOHj
That's what happens to Longview in 2024 if they play Northshore or Duncanville.
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 16, 2026, 09:18 AM5-7 Lancaster
Longview was South Oak Cliff. A team battered by Duncanville and Northshore.
https://youtu.be/5QSjZVATjeY?si=zREO1-Ies-RTDOHj
That's what happens to Longview in 2024 if they play Northshore or Duncanville.
Sure, keep digging yourself deeper and deeper and deeper.
2025
Ruston, La 38 Longview 35
South Oak Cliff 41 6A D1 Champ North Shore 31
South Oak Cliff 20 Longview 17
You don't know a damn thing!
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 10:02 AMSure, keep digging yourself deeper and deeper and deeper.
2025
Ruston, La 38 Longview 35
South Oak Cliff 41 6A D1 Champ North Shore 31
South Oak Cliff 20 Longview 17
You don't know a damn thing!
So according to this logic you have......
Madison Ridgeland 27, Louisiana #4 Baton Rouge Catholic 26
So Mad Ridge would be number 3 in LA
Ravenwood TN 28, Mad Ridge 24
Ravenwood number 2 in LA
Oakland 62, Ravenwood 21
Oakland is tops in Louisiana
Stephenville 28, Louisana #5 Ruston 12
Stephenville 10, Kilgore 0
Stephenville 24, Celina 21
So based on the scores, Stephenville, Celina and Kilgore would all be top 4 in Louisiana
This according to red flag logic
What's funny is looking at the national rankings, Stephenville and Celina would've been top 3 in Louisiana
I think we have been saying that for years. That the top teams in Louisiana is equivalent to Texas 4A (old 3A)
I absolutely despise a dumb fuck!
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 10:02 AMSure, keep digging yourself deeper and deeper and deeper.
2025
Ruston, La 38 Longview 35
South Oak Cliff 41 6A D1 Champ North Shore 31
South Oak Cliff 20 Longview 17
You don't know a damn thing!
I know Longview wasn't anything special in 2024.
Now we are using 2025 scores for 2024 lol.
We know what happened in 2024 between SOC and Northshore.
Northshore 38 SOC 0
Quote from: Nolebull813 on May 16, 2026, 10:38 AMSo according to this logic you have......
Madison Ridgeland 27, Louisiana #4 Baton Rouge Catholic 26
So Mad Ridge would be number 3 in LA
Ravenwood TN 28, Mad Ridge 24
Ravenwood number 2 in LA
Oakland 62, Ravenwood 21
Oakland is tops in Louisiana
Quote from: Nolebull813 on May 16, 2026, 10:44 AMStephenville 28, Louisana #5 Ruston 12
Stephenville 10, Kilgore 0
Stephenville 24, Celina 21
So based on the scores, Stephenville, Celina and Kilgore would all be top 4 in Louisiana
This according to red flag logic
He'll backpeddle with his BS logic quickly
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 10:53 AMI absolutely despise a dumb fuck!
Those pesky facts got you again, didn't they?
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 16, 2026, 11:09 AMI know Longview wasn't anything special in 2024.
Now we are using 2025 scores for 2024 lol.
We know what happened in 2024 between SOC and Northshore.
Northshore 38 SOC 0
So what?
We also know North Shore finished #3:in Texas in 2024 and that's probably why fucking SOC did not!
We know also Longview finished #12 in 2024 here 👇
https://www.on3.com/high-school/rankings/football/texas/2024/
#11 in some other polls
You're just really struggling with this, dimwit.
Keep going because you're kind of amusing me. 🤠🏈🤠
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 12:08 PMSo what?
We also know North Shore finished #3:in Texas in 2024 and that's probably why fucking SOC did not!
We know also Longview finished #12 in 2024 here 👇
https://www.on3.com/high-school/rankings/football/texas/2024/
#11 in some other polls
You're just really struggling with this, dimwit.
Keep going because you're kind of amusing me. 🤠🏈🤠
Is number 11 in Texas special?
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 16, 2026, 11:09 AMI know Longview wasn't anything special in 2024.
Now we are using 2025 scores for 2024 lol.
We know what happened in 2024 between SOC and Northshore.
Northshore 38 SOC 0
Check this dumb fuck out.
He said SOC and Longview were the same in 2024 because SOC beat Longview 46-45 and North Shore decked SOC.
Fast forward to 2025.
SOC beat Longview 20-17 making SOC and Longview the same again only in 2025 SOC decked North Shore.
South Oak Cliff was actually the #1 team in Texas in 2025.
Then the dumb fuck says we're going to use scores from 2025 now? 🤠🏈🤠
2025
#1 TX South Oak Cliff 20 Longview 17
Ruston, La 38 Longview 35
I see you Ruston!
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 12:24 PMCheck this dumb fuck out.
He said SOC and Longview were the same in 2024 because SOC beat Longview 46-45 and North Shore decked SOC.
Fast forward to 2025.
SOC beat Longview 20-17 making SOC and Longview the same again only in 2025 SOC decked North Shore.
South Oak Cliff was actually the #1 team in Texas in 2025.
Then the dumb fuck says we're going to use scores from 2025 now? 🤠🏈🤠
2025
#1 TX South Oak Cliff 20 Longview 17
Ruston, La 38 Longview 35
I see you Ruston!
SOC was decked by Duncanville. They went 1-1 in their big games
Louisiana has a real team on their schedule this year. I'll wait to hear how Louisiana is tough cause they scheduled the game bs from you.
I love how you leave context out.
South Oak Cliff played Northshore then Duncanville. They then played longview with a ton of injuries. Go figure
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 12:24 PMCheck this dumb fuck out.
He said SOC and Longview were the same in 2024 because SOC beat Longview 46-45 and North Shore decked SOC.
Fast forward to 2025.
SOC beat Longview 20-17 making SOC and Longview the same again only in 2025 SOC decked North Shore.
South Oak Cliff was actually the #1 team in Texas in 2025.
Then the dumb fuck says we're going to use scores from 2025 now? 🤠🏈🤠
2025
#1 TX South Oak Cliff 20 Longview 17
Ruston, La 38 Longview 35
I see you Ruston!
Stephenville 28 Ruston 12
That's pathetic. Imagine a team like Centennial losing to Stephenville
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 16, 2026, 12:36 PMLouisiana has a real team on their schedule this year
This is the part of the show where the CA Dimwit tries to convince the audience Longview is a fake football team.
They may be fake, but they have produced 25 NFL players tied with South Oak Cliff at #2 in Texas.
Lots of athletes running around those 2 schools
St John Bosco, CA has produced 14 NFL players. 😔
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 16, 2026, 12:41 PMStephenville 28 Ruston 12
That's pathetic. Imagine a team like Centennial losing to Stephenville
Like I said. The top teams in Louisiana are comparable to Texas 4A. He thinks one of his best teams barely beating a 5 loss Longview teams ranked in the national 400's is some monumental feat
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 01:37 PMThis is the part of the show where the CA Dimwit tries to convince the audience Longview is a fake football team.
They may be fake, but they have produced 25 NFL players tied with South Oak Cliff at #2 in Texas.
Lots of athletes running around those 2 schools
St John Bosco, CA has produced 14 NFL players. 😔
So now all time NFL players tells us how well a High school team is in football.
If Bosco played Longview anytime in the last 14 years, Bosco beats them by 20 plus.
Quote from: Nolebull813 on May 16, 2026, 02:31 PMLike I said. The top teams in Louisiana are comparable to Texas 4A. He thinks one of his best teams barely beating a 5 loss Longview teams ranked in the national 400's is some monumental feat
It's embarrassing
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 16, 2026, 03:03 PMIt's embarrassing
Actually, no.
What's truly embarrassing is a 2A Mississippi team played a bunch of Hillbillies better than a California Blue Bud this past year. I can post videos/stats to prove it.
And you're still not over it.
I know I know. Context and Injuries. 🤠🏈🤠
Sheesh!
Just think what Centennial would have done to Mission Viejo. 🤠🏈🤠
Quit fucking with that kid Redzone. Now!
Later
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 03:46 PMActually, no.
What's truly embarrassing is a 2A Mississippi team played a bunch of Hillbillies better than a California Blue Bud this past year. I can post videos/stats to prove it.
And you're still not over it.
I know I know. Context and Injuries. 🤠🏈🤠
Sheesh!
Didn't a Mississippi team put paddle to the ass to Baton Rouge catholic? Your states best program.
California actually wins big games. Louisiana, all talk
Quote from: Redzone on May 16, 2026, 03:49 PMJust think what Centennial would have done to Mission Viejo. 🤠🏈🤠
Quit fucking with that kid Redzone. Now!
Probably similar to what Mater Dei did to Mission Viejo.
Quote from: Steeler01 on May 16, 2026, 05:09 PMDidn't a Mississippi team put paddle to the ass to Baton Rouge catholic? Your states best program.
California actually wins big games. Louisiana, all talk
A MAIS independent Mississippi team beat Baton Rouge Catholic.
And in a battle of MS#11 Oak Grove vs LA#11 Neville, the game was a running clock. Oak Grove won 36-7 and called the dogs off at the end. Oak Grove wasn't even top 10 in their own class at the time of the game and Neville was 6th in the state!!!!
Quote from: Nolebull813 on May 16, 2026, 05:53 PMA MAIS independent Mississippi team beat Baton Rouge Catholic.
And in a battle of MS#11 Oak Grove vs LA#11 Neville, the game was a running clock. Oak Grove won 36-7 and called the dogs off at the end. Oak Grove wasn't even top 10 in their own class at the time of the game and Neville was 6th in the state!!!!
That's right, Oak Grove beat down Neville. Embarrassing, it always happens to Louisiana.
Quote from: Redzone on May 15, 2026, 10:24 AMAnd Longview beat DeSoto 50-14, so what?
What does that have to do with the Final Poll?
https://highschoolfootballamerica.com/north-crowley-wraps-up-no-1-ranking-in-2024-texas-top-25-high-school-football-rankings/
You just don't want to give Louisiana credit.
I get it, but your logic stinks.
Will you please stick with one or at the most 2 polls and stick with it? Instead of searching the internet for one that fits your agenda. POR FAVOR!