Belichick got snubbed yesterday and now Eli gets snubbed again today. Who knows who else will follow in the coming days? These voters have clearly demonstrated over the past year that they know nothing about the sport that they are voting on.
Quote from: Crusader on Jan 28, 2026, 01:53 PMBelichick got snubbed yesterday and now Eli gets snubbed again today. Who knows who else will follow in the coming days? These voters have clearly demonstrated over the past year that they know nothing about the sport that they are voting on.
Eli has no business being in the HOF
Quote from: Steeler01 on Jan 28, 2026, 03:32 PMEli has no business being in the HOF
Nonsense. One of the NFL's most clutch performers who took down the league's greatest dynasty twice & scored the greatest upset in league history.
Quote from: Crusader on Jan 28, 2026, 05:01 PMNonsense. One of the NFL's most clutch performers who took down the league's greatest dynasty twice & scored the greatest upset in league history.
The Pats scored a whooping 14 points in the super bowl. A record breaking offense scored 14 points and you think the QB won that game?
If a team scores 17 points or fewer in the NFL they lose 80 percent of those games.
If a team scores 14 or fewer they lose 88 percent of the time.
The Pats fall into both of those categories in the super bowls they played vs the giants. If anything, the Giants should've won by more in the 2008 super bowl, if Manning had actually performed well.
Quote from: Crusader on Jan 28, 2026, 05:01 PMNonsense. One of the NFL's most clutch performers who took down the league's greatest dynasty twice & scored the greatest upset in league history.
I think he is Borderline right now, but should probably be in eventually.... He was a Clutch performer and won 2 SB's and had a really good playoff performer....
What hurts him is he never led the league in passing and was never an MVP or All Pro and only made 4 pro bowls.... And he played 16 or 17 years.... But I would not disagree with him being put in the HOF and probably gets in one day....
The average NFL QB lasts between 3-5 years.
Eli played for 16 seasons same team and started 234 out of 236 regular season games.
He also started 210 consecutive games which is 3rd most in NFL history.
He was a 2* at Newman in New Orleans and a 2* at Ole Miss.
Not bad!
Quote from: Crusader on Jan 28, 2026, 01:53 PMBelichick got snubbed yesterday and now Eli gets snubbed again today. Who knows who else will follow in the coming days? These voters have clearly demonstrated over the past year that they know nothing about the sport that they are voting on.
Bill did have some cheating issues that may have stopped him from being a first ballot. But Eli? I do not look at him and his career and think HOF'er.
Quote from: AztecPadre on Jan 30, 2026, 10:47 AMBill did have some cheating issues that may have stopped him from being a first ballot. But Eli? I do not look at him and his career and think HOF'er.
It's funny how people (not saying you) want to bring up cheating in professional sports like and it's rare and we should alll be up in arms about it. Cheating has been part of professional sports from day one. That's why they have the saying "If you ain't cheating you ain't trying". Baseball sign stealing is tried every damn game (Astros just were stupid about it). Deflateagate is the same, quarterbacks will do anything to make passing easier and more accurate (Patriots were stupid enough to get caught) I could go on and on. 3/4 of the HOF shouldn't have been inducted if that was a criteria.
I agree with you on Eli, if you take away his 2 SB years and look at his career (I think 2011 was his only HOF worthy year of his career) he looks mediocre at best. His last few years were atrocious. How is 3tds over 2 Super Bowls HOF worthy. Someone please give me his upside because I can't see it.
Quote from: Norcalnut on Jan 30, 2026, 04:40 PMI agree with you on Eli, if you take away his 2 SB years and look at his career (I think 2011 was his only HOF worthy year of his career) he looks mediocre at best. His last few years were atrocious. How is 3tds over 2 Super Bowls HOF worthy. Someone please give me his upside because I can't see it.
On the same token, as a head coach Belichick had a losing record and, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't win any playoff games when Brady was not playing for him. In the NFL players don't really need coaching by the time they reach that level. I feel coaching players is better suited for the college ranks when young men are still developing. So far, not so good for Belichick at UNC.....
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Jan 30, 2026, 09:59 PMOn the same token, as a head coach Belichick had a losing record and, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't win any playoff games when Brady was not playing for him. In the NFL players don't really need coaching by the time they reach that level. I feel coaching players is better suited for the college ranks when young men are still developing. So far, not so good for Belichick at UNC.....
Wait.... Did you really say that NFL Players don't need any Coaching?.... My Dude, that is Ridiculous!.... 🤣🤣
Quote from: TheOC89 on Jan 30, 2026, 11:27 PMWait.... Did you really say that NFL Players don't need any Coaching?.... My Dude, that is Ridiculous!.... 🤣🤣
At that level they really shouldn't need it fundamentality. It's the different schemes that each particular coach likes to implement that each player needs to learn. Some players can grasp it, some can't. All I'm saying is without Brady's talent, Belichick had a losing record coach-wise. So, yes, most NFL players shouldn't need extensive coaching. College is where they need to be coached up and turned into professionals.
I'm baffled that you see that as being ridiculous?
I hope Reggie Wayne from New Orleans makes it this time.
He's been a finalist for 7 years.
He was a solid 1* at John Ehret (NOLA) and a solid 1* with the Miami Hurricanes.
Anyone affiliated with Louisiana is a 1* or 2*.
Quote from: Redzone on Jan 31, 2026, 05:29 AMI hope Reggie Wayne from New Orleans makes it this time.
He's been a finalist for 7 years.
He was a solid 1* at John Ehret (NOLA) and a solid 1* with the Miami Hurricanes.
Anyone affiliated with Louisiana is a 1* or 2*.
Torry Holt should be in before Wayne and probably Steve Smith as well.
Quote from: Steeler01 on Jan 31, 2026, 12:10 PMTorry Holt should be in before Wayne and probably Steve Smith as well.
I think those three more equally deserving than not, careers are pretty similar. With that being said all three are way more deserving than Eli.
Quote from: Norcalnut on Jan 31, 2026, 12:36 PMI think those three more equally deserving than not, careers are pretty similar. With that being said all three are way more deserving than Eli.
And it's not close
Belichick getting passed over is bullshit. The real travesty still Roger Craig being left out so long, so don't really give a fuck about Eli or the other guys at this point.
Quote from: Cossacks on Jan 31, 2026, 04:20 PMBelichick getting passed over is bullshit. The real travesty still Roger Craig being left out so long, so don't really give a fuck about Eli or the other guys at this point.
Craig is the original dual threat HB.
Quote from: Cossacks on Jan 31, 2026, 04:20 PMBelichick getting passed over is bullshit. The real travesty still Roger Craig being left out so long, so don't really give a fuck about Eli or the other guys at this point.
Yes, Craig needs to be in the Hall.
Craig was a mediocre RB
The fumble in the 1990 NFC Championship game is probably keeping him out..
Warrick Dunn (Florida State) from Catholic (Baton Rouge) should be in the NFL Hall of Fame over Roger Craig.
Matt Forte (Tulane) from Slidell High, La was a better RB than Craig too, but he can't get his picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone either.
Quote from: Redzone on Jan 31, 2026, 10:38 PMWarrick Dunn (Florida State) from Catholic (Baton Rouge) should be in the NFL Hall of Fame over Roger Craig.
Matt Forte (Tulane) from Slidell High, La was a better RB than Craig too, but he can't get his picture on the cover of the Rolling Stone either.
You're an idiot as usual.... Craig was an Offensive Player of the year, was on the All Decade team of the 1980's and key player on a 3 time superbowl champion team.... Not to mention, the first player ever to have 1,000 yards rushing and 1,000 yards receiving in a season which has only been done 3 times in the history of the NFL...
Warrick Dunn was a Bust and no one even remembers who the other guy you mentioned is.... 🤣
Roger Craig ranks #49 All Time in total scrimmage yards. Just barely Top 50.
He was a product of the 49ers West Coast offense that included Joe Montana and Jerry Rice.
Who cares if Roger Craig caught a lot of dunk passes for 5 yards from Montana.
Obviously not the people that elect Hall of Famers. 🤠🏈🤠
Quote from: TheOC89 on Feb 01, 2026, 08:05 AMWarrick Dunn was a Bust and no one even remembers who the other guy you mentioned is.... 🤣
Why? Why?
The things that people say on the internet are simply amazing.
Warrick Dunn and Matt Forte played on crap teams and still had better careers than Roger Craig. 🤠🏈🤠
Nm
Quote from: Norcalnut on Jan 30, 2026, 04:40 PMIt's funny how people (not saying you) want to bring up cheating in professional sports like and it's rare and we should alll be up in arms about it. Cheating has been part of professional sports from day one. That's why they have the saying "If you ain't cheating you ain't trying". Baseball sign stealing is tried every damn game (Astros just were stupid about it). Deflateagate is the same, quarterbacks will do anything to make passing easier and more accurate (Patriots were stupid enough to get caught) I could go on and on. 3/4 of the HOF shouldn't have been inducted if that was a criteria.
I agree with you on Eli, if you take away his 2 SB years and look at his career (I think 2011 was his only HOF worthy year of his career) he looks mediocre at best. His last few years were atrocious. How is 3tds over 2 Super Bowls HOF worthy. Someone please give me his upside because I can't see it.
I agree 100% on the cheating, I was speaking more of the HOF voters that would have used that as a reason. Plus he had Brady all those years. How good did he do when he did not have Tome Brady?
Quote from: Redzone on Jan 31, 2026, 10:16 PMCraig was a mediocre RB
The fumble in the 1990 NFC Championship game is probably keeping him out..
First take is... retarded. When he retired, he was number one for a running back in receptions (566) and number one for a running back in receiving yards (4911). He was 13th on the all-time rushing list (8889) when he retired in '93. So to say he was, "mediocre" when he pretty much was the top all purpose /dual threat back in his era makes no sense whatsoever.
Second take... actually do agree with you. I think that has some bearing in his exclusion.
Quote from: Cossacks on Feb 02, 2026, 01:15 PMFirst take is... retarded. When he retired, he was number one for a running back in receptions (566) and number one for a running back in receiving yards (4911). He was 13th on the all-time rushing list (8889) when he retired in '93. So to say he was, "mediocre" when he pretty much was the top all purpose /dual threat back in his era makes no sense whatsoever.
Second take... actually do agree with you. I think that has some bearing in his exclusion.
Lets put ALL the glory year's 49ers in the NFL Hall of Fame.
He would make the 4th or 5th, right?
Makes a guy wonder.
TheOC89 clown said Warrick Dunn was a BUST.
Wonder what Warrick Dunn could have done with the San Francisco 49ers and that West Coast offense instead of the crap he played for. 🤠🏈🤠
"Warrick Dunn is one of only a select few NFL running backs to reach 10,000 rushing yards and 4,000 receiving yards in their career. Based on historical data, about 5-6 players have achieved this specific milestone, including Dunn, Marshall Faulk, Tiki Barber, Marcus Allen, Ricky Watters, and occasionally LaDainian Tomlinson depending on the exact yardage cutoff.
"Warrick Dunn: Finished his career with 10,967 rushing yards and 4,339 receiving yards.
Other members of the 10K/4K club: Marshall Faulk, Tiki Barber, Marcus Allen, and Ricky Watters also achieved this dual milestone.
Dunn was recognized as the 7th player to hit these combined milestones in some reports (often including slightly different receiving thresholds).
He is considered one of the most productive dual-threat, yet underrated, running backs in NFL history."
People forget just how fast Warrick Dunn was. 👇
4.28 40 Yard Dash and 10.3 100 Meters.
He was the #12 pick in the 1st Round and everybody said he would be a bust because he was too small.
He played 12 years!!
Matt Forte was a beast too!
Another guy that played for crap teams!
"Matt Forte, a dual-threat running back over 10 NFL seasons (2008–2017) with the Bears and Jets, recorded 9,796 rushing yards (4.2 average), 4,672 receiving yards, and 75 total touchdowns. He finished his career with 554 receptions, which ranked ninth all-time among NFL running backs at the time of his retirement.
Career Rushing & Receiving Statistics (146 Games)
Rushing Attempts: 2,356
Rushing Yards: 9,796
Rushing TDs: 54
Receptions: 554
Receiving Yards: 4,672
Receiving TDs: 21
Total Yards from Scrimmage: 14,468
Key Career Highlights
Franchise Records: Set 5 Chicago Bears franchise records, including second in rushing yards (8,602) behind Walter Payton.
Pro Bowls: Selected to 2 Pro Bowls (2011, 2013).
Versatility: Second-fastest player in NFL history to reach 8,000 rushing yards and 4,000 receiving yards.
Consistency: Led the Bears in rushing for eight straight seasons (2008–2015). "
Quote from: Redzone on Feb 02, 2026, 02:19 PMLets put ALL the glory year's 49ers in the NFL Hall of Fame.
He would make the 4th or 5th, right?
Makes a guy wonder.
Don't worry, Fred Dean is in there from that group.
Quote from: Cossacks on Feb 02, 2026, 01:15 PMFirst take is... retarded. When he retired, he was number one for a running back in receptions (566) and number one for a running back in receiving yards (4911). He was 13th on the all-time rushing list (8889) when he retired in '93. So to say he was, "mediocre" when he pretty much was the top all purpose /dual threat back in his era makes no sense whatsoever.
Second take... actually do agree with you. I think that has some bearing in his exclusion.
He completely changed the way RB's were used in offense which opened the door for those who followed him.... He is a Hall of Famer....
I was at the 1990 NFC championship game for the fumble and it sucked.... 🤣
Quote from: Redzone on Feb 02, 2026, 02:56 PMTheOC89 clown said Warrick Dunn was a BUST.
Wonder what Warrick Dunn could have done with the San Francisco 49ers and that West Coast offense instead of the crap he played for. 🤠🏈🤠
"Warrick Dunn is one of only a select few NFL running backs to reach 10,000 rushing yards and 4,000 receiving yards in their career. Based on historical data, about 5-6 players have achieved this specific milestone, including Dunn, Marshall Faulk, Tiki Barber, Marcus Allen, Ricky Watters, and occasionally LaDainian Tomlinson depending on the exact yardage cutoff.
"Warrick Dunn: Finished his career with 10,967 rushing yards and 4,339 receiving yards.
Other members of the 10K/4K club: Marshall Faulk, Tiki Barber, Marcus Allen, and Ricky Watters also achieved this dual milestone.
Dunn was recognized as the 7th player to hit these combined milestones in some reports (often including slightly different receiving thresholds).
He is considered one of the most productive dual-threat, yet underrated, running backs in NFL history."
Warrick Dunn never did anything Historical or to set him self apart, he is Just Another Guy.... Nobody cares about Warrick Dunn....
Roger Craig was a historic player in the NFL.... 1st one with 1k Rec and 1k rushing in a year that has only been done 3 times.... He was top 3 in MVP finishes twice.... Roger Craig was also an Offensive player of the year in 1988 and was in the all decade team of the 1980's.... The only RB from that all decade team that is not in the hall....
Not sure if Warrick Dunn ever got 1 MVP vote.... I will let you look that up though.... 🤣
Warrick Dunn is the only player in NFL history to record at least 7,500 yards from scrimmage with two different franchises.
Throughout his 12-season career with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Atlanta Falcons, he achieved over 10,000 rushing yards and 4,000 receiving yards, totaling nearly 11,000 rushing yards and over 15,000 all-purpose yards.
What did Roger Craig do after leaving the 49ers?
Oh yeah > nothing.
Like I said. He was an ok RB playing for a great organization!
Add Robert Kraft to the list of rejects
2026 Canton Class
Larry Fitzgerald
Luke Kuechly
Adam Vinatieri
Roger Craig
Drew Brees
Quote from: TheOC89 on Feb 01, 2026, 08:05 AMYou're an idiot as usual.... Craig was an Offensive Player of the year, was on the All Decade team of the 1980's and key player on a 3 time superbowl champion team.... Not to mention, the first player ever to have 1,000 yards rushing and 1,000 yards receiving in a season which has only been done 3 times in the history of the NFL...
Warrick Dunn was a Bust and no one even remembers who the other guy you mentioned is.... 🤣
Ha I was about to ask who the guys were besides Dunn. And Dunn HOF? Come on man. Not even close.
I didn't realize Craig wasn't in the HOF. I hate the niners, but even I can admit that dude belongs. No doubt.
The 49ers very own Sourdough Sam will make the NFL Hall of Fame next year.
Hell, why not.
🤠🏈🤠
What about Brian Mitchell? Number 2 in history with 23,330 AP yards.
I know almost all of them are return yards, but why isn't return yards counted as something significant? If a guy returns the ball to the 50 or the opponents 45 every return, how isn't that impacting the game?
Hell a guy can sack the QB and the next play they throw a TD or get a 1st down and that sack was useless and had no effect on the drive or game.
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Feb 06, 2026, 10:30 AMWhat about Brian Mitchell? Number 2 in history with 23,330 AP yards.
I know almost all of them are return yards, but why isn't return yards counted as something significant? If a guy returns the ball to the 50 or the opponents 45 every return, how isn't that impacting the game?
Hell a guy can sack the QB and the next play they throw a TD or get a 1st down and that sack was useless and had no effect on the drive or game.
Pretty good point!.... I don't know what his overall stats and accolades are but if he is close to Hester you would think he has a real good case....
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Feb 06, 2026, 10:30 AMWhat about Brian Mitchell? Number 2 in history with 23,330 AP yards.
I know almost all of them are return yards, but why isn't return yards counted as something significant? If a guy returns the ball to the 50 or the opponents 45 every return, how isn't that impacting the game?
Hell a guy can sack the QB and the next play they throw a TD or get a 1st down and that sack was useless and had no effect on the drive or game.
The HOF hasn't been kind to specialists at all. Only 1 return specialist (Hester) 3 kickers and only 1 punter (Ray Guy who isn't even top 20 in any relevant metric for punters).