Not much activity.
Dropped Thompson, AL and Bergen Catholic, NJ..... added Archbishop Moeller, OH and Brownsburg, IN.
Made some minor adjustments within the Top 10. Grayson, GA took a hit this week
Redzone Red Hot National 15 Poll
1-St John Bosco, CA
2-Sierra Canyon, CA
3-St Frances, MD
4- Mater Dei, CA
5- Bishop Gorman, NV
6-Buford, GA
7-Edna Karr, NOLA
8-Mount Carmel, IL
9-Southlake Carroll, TX
10-Grayson, GA
11-St Thomas Aquinas, FL
12-DeMatha, MD
13-Allen, TX
14--Archbishop Moeller, OH
15-Brownsburg, IN
The real question is: how many teams just missed?
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 28, 2025, 06:17 AMNot much activity.
Dropped Thompson, AL and Bergen Catholic, NJ..... added Archbishop Moeller, OH and Brownsburg, IN.
Made some minor adjustments within the Top 10. Grayson, GA took a hit this week
Redzone Red Hot National 15 Poll
1-St John Bosco, CA
2-Sierra Canyon, CA
3-St Frances, MD
4- Mater Dei, CA
5- Bishop Gorman, NV
6-Buford, GA
7-Edna Karr, NOLA
8-Mount Carmel, IL
9-Southlake Carroll, TX
10-Grayson, GA
11-St Thomas Aquinas, FL
12-DeMatha, MD
13-Allen, TX
14--Archbishop Moeller, OH
15-Brownsburg, IN
The prestigious Redzone Red Hot National Poll Watch List.
No particular order:
Basha, AZ
Creekside, GA
Don Bosco Prep, NJ
Miami Central, FL
Baylor, TN
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 28, 2025, 06:17 AMMade some minor adjustments within the Top 10. Grayson, GA took a hit this week
Why? We won 50-3 over our toughest region opponent.
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 28, 2025, 06:23 AMThe real question is: how many teams just missed?
Does Green Apple Massey really have Bixby, OK #1?
Quote from: Fred on Sep 28, 2025, 10:24 PMWhy? We won 50-3 over our toughest region opponent.
Bryant, AR destroyed Newton, GA (your toughest region opponent) too, Fred.
Newton is now 3-3.
Grayson's 3 best wins this year are looking a little suspicious..
1-Rabun Gap has lost 3 games now including giving up 55 points to Providence Day NC,. Grayson struggled with Rabun Gap.
2-Thompson, AL just lost to Clay-Chalkville...... Grayson struggled with Thompson.
3-Mallard Creek, NC was blown out by West Charlotte this past weekend....... Grayson blew up Mallard Creek.too, but you see the point.
Not to worry though.
All Grayson has to do is keep winning and they could possibly end up in the Top 3 this year.
This weekend.
New Orleans battle > Edna Karr plays their toughest Louisiana team to date (4-0) St Aug......St Aug is currently #5 in Louisiana.
Chicago battle> Mount Carmel plays their toughest Illinois team to date (5-0) Brother Rice...... Brother Rice is currently #4 In Illinois.
If those 2 teams are not impressive they will drop accordingly as well.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 28, 2025, 10:34 PMDoes Green Apple Massey really have Bixby, OK #1?
Yes. It almost seems like On3/Rivals are deliberately manipulating the Massey ratings in order to get new controversial #1 teams in order to boost engagement on their SM posts (which appears to be working fairly well for them - even if the engagement is overwhelmingly negative). Previously they had Grayson at #1 and now it's Bixby. Something I noticed last week is that there was a mismatch on both the On3/Rivals and Massey websites of the ratings tables (which had SJB at #1) and the editorial article that was published on On3/Rivals (which had Grayson #1) and they finally "updated" (or backrolled) the ratings tables to align with the published article on Tuesday. To me that seems awfully suspicious.
Another possibility is that Massey may also be getting pressure from Rivals to publish ratings earlier in the week (before all of the score data can be collected, verified, entered and then give the algorithm sufficient time to run and "settle"). Most of the national rankings providers publish their rankings by Monday and there is likely some pressure to "not be the last" to publish rankings. One thing I've learned over the years of tracking the weekly Massey ratings is that it takes time to enter all of the score data and feed it into the ratings algorithm and then it takes additional time for the ratings algorithm to run and then "settle". This is true for CalPreps/HSRatings as well and why I won't record the CalPreps and Massey data until Tuesday morning at the earliest. I've also spoken with people who have worked at CalPreps and they have confirmed this general weekly timeline for those ratings.
Either way, it's not a good look (at least to those crazy people like me who pay close attention to this stuff).
Quote from: TheCompPoll on Sep 29, 2025, 09:14 AMYes. It almost seems like On3/Rivals are deliberately manipulating the Massey ratings in order to get new controversial #1 teams in order to boost engagement on their SM posts (which appears to be working fairly well for them - even if the engagement is overwhelmingly negative). Previously they had Grayson at #1 and now it's Bixby. Something I noticed last week is that there was a mismatch on both the On3/Rivals and Massey websites of the ratings tables (which had SJB at #1) and the editorial article that was published on On3/Rivals (which had Grayson #1) and they finally "updated" (or backrolled) the ratings tables to align with the published article on Tuesday. To me that seems awfully suspicious.
Another possibility is that Massey may also be getting pressure from Rivals to publish ratings earlier in the week (before all of the score data can be collected, verified, entered and then give the algorithm sufficient time to run and "settle"). Most of the national rankings providers publish their rankings by Monday and there is likely some pressure to "not be the last" to publish rankings. One thing I've learned over the years of tracking the weekly Massey ratings is that it takes time to enter all of the score data and feed it into the ratings algorithm and then it takes additional time for the ratings algorithm to run and then "settle". This is true for CalPreps/HSRatings as well and why I won't record the CalPreps and Massey data until Tuesday morning at the earliest. I've also spoken with people who have worked at CalPreps and they have confirmed this general weekly timeline for those ratings.
Either way, it's not a good look (at least to those crazy people like me who pay close attention to this stuff).
Crazy!
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 28, 2025, 06:17 AMNot much activity.
Dropped Thompson, AL and Bergen Catholic, NJ..... added Archbishop Moeller, OH and Brownsburg, IN.
Made some minor adjustments within the Top 10. Grayson, GA took a hit this week
Redzone Red Hot National 15 Poll
1-St John Bosco, CA
2-Sierra Canyon, CA
3-St Frances, MD
4- Mater Dei, CA
5- Bishop Gorman, NV
6-Buford, GA
7-Edna Karr, NOLA
8-Mount Carmel, IL
9-Southlake Carroll, TX
10-Grayson, GA
11-St Thomas Aquinas, FL
12-DeMatha, MD
13-Allen, TX
14--Archbishop Moeller, OH
15-Brownsburg, IN
I see you're still too scared to do a larger poll. Grow some balls, swamp turd.
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Sep 29, 2025, 03:22 PMI see you're still too scared to do a larger poll. Grow some balls, swamp turd.
To be recognized as a Top 15 team In the Redzone Red Hot Top 15 has much more meaning than your weekly Hillbilly 100 where teams mysteriously appear and then mysteriously disappear just that quick for absolutely no reason other than as you put it....."there are 15,000 high schools"...
Did you see my answer to, Fred?......in this thread.
That's how to answer a simple poll question.
Hillbilly, what's the point of even having a Top 25 if you can't explain/sell to people why you have teams in it. Polls are all about making sales.
You have Bixby at #24.
You have yet to explain why you have had Bixby in your Top 25 for the last decade. lmao!
😭
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Here's a clue. Bixby just doesn't look like the other teams. Nobody cares if they can beat Jenks.
New Redzone Red Hot National Top 15 feature:
"did you know?"
A feature that throws some irrelevant randomness out there from time to time.
Did you know Archbishop Moeller, OH last won a state football championship in 2013?
Did you know Brownsburg High School in Indiana has a student enrollment of almost 3,500 students?
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 30, 2025, 03:54 AMDid you see my answer to, Fred?......in this thread.
That's how to answer a simple poll question.
Your answer displayed the lack of knowledge you have. Nacoochie is a solid team who always plays teams tough. Providence Day is their league rival and are a good team.
Grayson beat the top team in AL without their star QB. Blowing out Newton was very impressive. Newton hung with Douglas Co and lost a top 25 team in Bryant. You would know that if you did some more research beyond a measly top 15.
Did you know Allen High School in Texas was established in 1910.
Allen won their very first state football championship in 2008 which is the first year they made the USA Today Poll.
The USA Today high school football poll has been out since 1982.
Okay, swamp turd. Just stop with the little tidbits. You're too stupid to do this kind of research.
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Sep 30, 2025, 02:28 PMYour answer displayed the lack of knowledge you have. Nacoochie is a solid team who always plays teams tough. Providence Day is their league rival and are a good team.
Grayson beat the top team in AL without their star QB. Blowing out Newton was very impressive. Newton hung with Douglas Co and lost a top 25 team in Bryant. You would know that if you did some more research beyond a measly top 15.
What are you talking about?
Buford has much better Georgia wins and it was time to make the swap.. When something feels right it's probably right.
Like I told the guy it's not the end of the world for Grayson.
End of story
The sad part is Grayson is ranked higher In the RedZone Red Hot National Top 15 than they are in the Hillbilly 100. Go figure
You just can't make this kind of stuff up.
And the hillbilly is trying to school me???
Bixby!!!
Sheesh .
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Quote from: Redzone on Sep 30, 2025, 02:33 PMAllen won their very first state football championship in 2008 which is the first year they made the USA Today Poll.
The USA Today high school football poll has been out since 1982.
Yes, but two teams from
Allentown, PA made appearances in the final USAToday polls before Allen, TX: Central Catholic in 1993 and Parkland in 2002.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 30, 2025, 02:56 PMThe sad part is Grayson is ranked higher In the RedZone Red Hot National Top 15 than they are in the Hillbilly 100. Go figure
You just can't make this kind of stuff up.
And the hillbilly is trying to school me???
Bixby!!!
Sheesh .
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I have Buford ahead of Grayson in my poll, you dope. It's too easy to school you when you put out such a pathetic poll.
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Sep 30, 2025, 03:27 PMI have Buford ahead of Grayson in my poll, you dope. It's too easy to school you when you put out such a pathetic poll.
What are you talking about now?????
I had Grayson #4. I crunched the available data and dropped them to #10.......... you blow a gasket in my thread defending Grayson when you have Grayson #11 in your poll.
You're one very dumb man!
For the people that actually have functioning brains.
I kept Grayson at #4 as long as I could.
Of course people that have functioning brains can see and understand that.
Quote from: Redzone on Sep 30, 2025, 04:33 PMWhat are you talking about now?????
I had Grayson #4. I crunched the available data and dropped them to #10.......... you blow a gasket in my thread defending Grayson when you have Grayson #11 in your poll.
You're one very dumb man!
I've had them in the same spot for a few weeks now. You, on the other hand, had them ridiculously too high. That is the entire point. How do you not see this? Talk about dumb men. Wow, you're an idiot!
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Sep 30, 2025, 02:28 PMYour answer displayed the lack of knowledge you have. Nacoochie is a solid team who always plays teams tough. Providence Day is their league rival and are a good team.
Grayson beat the top team in AL without their star QB. Blowing out Newton was very impressive. Newton hung with Douglas Co and lost a top 25 team in Bryant. You would know that if you did some more research beyond a measly top 15.
The funny thing is I really don't care where he has us. A random guy on a message board doesn't make or break me. I was just curious as to what the logic was. I could counter with arguments as to why he is wrong but why bother? It won't change anything.
Quote from: Fred on Sep 30, 2025, 10:26 PMThe funny thing is I really don't care where he has us. A random guy on a message board doesn't make or break me. I was just curious as to what the logic was. I could counter with arguments as to why he is wrong but why bother? It won't change anything.
I don't think anyone does. He's a bumbling idiot. Grayson has earned their top 20 ranking and will get a chance to crack the top 10 later in the playoffs. Who knows, Grayson may steamroll through the 6A field (which is loaded).
Quote from: Fred on Sep 30, 2025, 10:26 PMThe funny thing is I really don't care where he has us. A random guy on a message board doesn't make or break me. I was just curious as to what the logic was. I could counter with arguments as to why he is wrong but why bother? It won't change anything.
The real kicker is I have Grayson higher in my poll than the random Hillbilly you responded to does in his Hillbilly 100 poll.
Go tell the Hillbilly he's wrong and you could counter him too. 👍😭
Don't be one of those guys that chooses not to read and comprehend, Fred!
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 01, 2025, 12:08 AMGo tell the king of the rankings he's wrong and you could counter him too. 👍😭
You're getting desperate, swamp turd. Not a good way to rep Lousyana.
Did you know Sierra Canyon has never produced a NFL football player?........ I may have to research this further because that just doesn't sound right.
Did you know Sierra Canyon has produced 9 NBA players?
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 01, 2025, 12:08 AMThe real kicker is I have Grayson higher in my poll than the random Hillbilly you responded to does in his Hillbilly 100 poll.
Go tell the Hillbilly he's wrong and you could counter him too. 👍😭
Don't be one of those guys that chooses not to read and comprehend, Fred!
The times I've looked, he has been consistent with where he has us. As with you, it really doesn't matter to me what some guy on a football message board says.
Don't be that guy that thinks his poop doesn't stink and knows everything. Your comprehension has been shown to be lacking many times. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they don't comprehend or that they are automatically wrong. Oh, by the way, the major ranking services have Grayson higher than you do. Comprehend that.
Quote from: Fred on Oct 01, 2025, 07:18 PMThe times I've looked, he has been consistent with where he has us. As with you, it really doesn't matter to me what some guy on a football message board says.
Don't be that guy that thinks his poop doesn't stink and knows everything. Your comprehension has been shown to be lacking many times. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they don't comprehend or that they are automatically wrong. Oh, by the way, the major ranking services have Grayson higher than you do. Comprehend that.
It's OK not to agree with me, Fred.
You are not happy I have Grayson at #10.
I get it!
PS Redzone poop no stink!
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 02, 2025, 04:44 AMIt's OK not to agree with me, Fred.
You are not happy I have Grayson at #10.
I get it!
PS Redzone poop no stink!
I don't think he cares....
P.S. If you smell anything at all it's your upper lip.
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 02, 2025, 04:44 AMIt's OK not to agree with me, Fred.
You are not happy I have Grayson at #10.
I get it!
PS Redzone poop no stink!
Talk about no reading comprehension!
I. Don't. Care. Where. You. Have. Grayson. Ranked. All I asked was
why. You are just some dude on the internet that is under the mistaken belief the world turns on what you say.
Quote from: Fred on Oct 02, 2025, 08:49 PMTalk about no reading comprehension! I. Don't. Care. Where. You. Have. Grayson. Ranked. All I asked was why. You are just some dude on the internet that is under the mistaken belief the world turns on what you say.
I'm not going to go "bold" on you , Fred
I get that you didn't like my logic for dropping Grayson 6 spots .
Thanks for your question anyways and letting me know Grayson beat (3-3) Newton 50-3.
Grayson should win their remaining games by an average score of 60-3. The computers will probably like that a lot..... that's a very weak district they play in though.
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 03, 2025, 03:46 AMI'm not going to go "bold" on you , Fred
I get that you didn't like my logic for dropping Grayson 6 spots .
Thanks for your question anyways and letting me know Grayson beat (3-3) Newton 50-3.
Good grief man! All I asked was why. I did not say yea or nay on your logic. Feelings of self importance much? By the way, the worst Grayson is ranked in all of the major polls is 5 with one as high as 2. They must like *something* we are doing unlike a random guy on a football board.
Quote from: Fred on Oct 03, 2025, 08:03 AMGood grief man! All I asked was why. I did not say yea or nay on your logic.
Your exact words were these, Fred.
"I was just curious as to what the logic was. I could counter with arguments as to why he is wrong but why bother? It won't change anything."
I have totally given up on you, Fred.
I'll say it again. I get it
You don't like my Grayson ranking and you don't like my Grayson logic.
Other than that you appear to be a man that just doesn't care! 😦🙂
Quote from: Redzone on Oct 03, 2025, 09:10 AMI have totally given up on you, Fred.
Thank God!
Does it hurt to be wrong so much of the time?
Quote from: Fred on Oct 03, 2025, 09:54 PMThank God!
Does it hurt to be wrong so much of the time?
He's a troll that likes negative attention. He is the person who comes around a group and they all stop talking hoping he goes away. Parents must of not spanked him enough.
Quote from: Nolebull813 on Oct 04, 2025, 07:02 AMHe's a troll that likes negative attention. He is the person who comes around a group and they all stop talking hoping he goes away. Parents must of not spanked him enough.
He is a worthless troll. You're making up for his parents today. You've been spanking his ass all day. It's quite amusing seeing him squirm.
Quote from: Omaha Vol on Oct 04, 2025, 01:28 PMHe is a worthless troll. You're making up for his parents today. You've been spanking his ass all day. It's quite amusing seeing him squirm.
Someone has gotta show him tough love. Daddy drank himself sick and mama was addicted to cigarettes and daytime TV. No time for little Red Flag. The only time he got attention was when he was getting his ass whipped. I think the negative attention he craves here gives him comfort from his past.